PIE HEADACHE AND WiBblE

[Dukat]

Or rather "Pi" headache.

I read this on a random website at work today:

In 1991, the Chudnovsky brothers in New York, using their computer, m zero, calculated pi to two billion two hundred sixty million three hundred twenty one thousand three hundred sixty three digits (2, 260, 321, 363). They halted the program that summer.

!??!"??13

Its just silly How can a number that has practical applications go on that far without being properly defined?

And also, what would be the consequences of actually finding what pi is ? would it be usable for anything? It just hurts my mind

In unrelated news, I HAVE A CRUSH ON THAT LASS FROM ALPHABEAT AND I DONT KNOW WHY

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

It's impossible to fully define pi, as much as it is impossible to fully define e or SQRT(2)

That's the definition of being an irrational number. It's nonrepeating, and endlessly long.

If you calculate the length of the equator and use pi for that with 11 numbers behind the comma, you'll calculate the length of the equator with a precision of less than a millimeter. That's far beyond the accuracy actually obtainable by other errors like mountains, or dunes, or christ, even the waves on the oceans and lakes.

If you use pi with 39 decimal places, you can calculate the circumference of the visible universe up to the precision of a hydrogen atom.

There's not much use to go any more exact. It's just a geeksport, to get the longest...

 

[Dukat]

It's impossible to fully define pi, as much as it is impossible to fully define e or SQRT(2)

That's the definition of being an irrational number. It's nonrepeating, and endlessly long.

If you calculate the length of the equator and use pi for that with 11 numbers behind the comma, you'll calculate the length of the equator with a precision of less than a millimeter. That's far beyond the accuracy actually obtainable by other errors like mountains, or dunes, or christ, even the waves on the oceans and lakes.

If you use pi with 39 decimal places, you can calculate the circumference of the visible universe up to the precision of a hydrogen atom.

There's not much use to go any more exact. It's just a geeksport, to get the longest...

That makes sense I guess, the idea of an infinitely long number that doesnt repeat but is still used for everyday stuff like architecture and stuff is still somehow annoying though.

Is it truely infinitely long though? that isnt something that can be proved I guess.

Plus, that girl from alphabeat has the cute factor i think, its just subtle.

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Yes, pi is unending.
Check these proofs if you care to dive deeper in it:
Proof that & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's not directly proven that pi is unending long, but it's disproven that pi is a rational number, and hence, automatically falls into the irrational numbers, thus proven by means of, if it can't be a, b or c, then it automatically means that it is d, kind of way.

And alphabeat sucks. Their song is extremely overrated...

 

[Raven]

irrational?


So its female then?

 

[Dahakon]

That girl from Alphabeat is very cute, glad I'm not the only one to think that, also what Ingafgrinn Macabre said about pi.

 

[Dukat]

And alphabeat sucks. Their song is extremely overrated...

True, I kinda like the remix to 10000 nights in a way though, but again I think its because I've only ever heard it when the video was on

I dont understand enough about numbers to disagree with you, but I just cant get my head around how we use pi to find out exact lengths like the circumference of a circlar pie based on its diameter/radius - my mind keeps screaming that 'surely it has to be a finite number' if its involved in exact caculation?

I feel like my mind is trying to push one of those square blocks through a triagular hole it just wont work.

:saythat: NOTE: I said "wont work", not "wont fit", you dirteh minded people you!

 

[Laddey]

nerds!

 

[Lamp]

It's impossible to fully define pi, as much as it is impossible to fully define e or SQRT(2)

That's the definition of being an irrational number. It's nonrepeating, and endlessly long.

If you calculate the length of the equator and use pi for that with 11 numbers behind the comma, you'll calculate the length of the equator with a precision of less than a millimeter. That's far beyond the accuracy actually obtainable by other errors like mountains, or dunes, or christ, even the waves on the oceans and lakes.

If you use pi with 39 decimal places, you can calculate the circumference of the visible universe up to the precision of a hydrogen atom.

There's not much use to go any more exact. It's just a geeksport, to get the longest...

I think 39 is enough LOL

 

[Jarahl]

It's rather easy to define pi tbh.

22/7

Voila!

 

[kiliarien]

Too.....many......maths......brainy......argh

 

[Lamp]

Thats not maths.

THIS is maths:

See how hard she's concentrating ?

 

[kiliarien]

Thats not maths.

THIS is maths:

See how hard she's concentrating ?

Must be contemplating my infinitley long member, now that's a number that has 'practical applications' as Dukat puts it

 

[Bugz]

I've been learning complex numbers in FP1.

Now that's interesting.

 

[Laddey]

I've been learning complex numbers in FP1.

Now that's interesting.

If you're a nerd

 

[Bugz]

Probably.

 

[Dukat]

It's rather easy to define pi tbh.

22/7

Voila!

Isnt that just an appoximation though?

 

[Bahumat]

Fuck all this numberwang, its too geeky!

The middle girl? she looks like Hanna Spearit(sp?) from S Club 7

 

[Sparx]

Fuck all this numberwang, its too geeky!

The middle girl? she looks like Hanna Spearit(sp?) from S Club 7

NO she doesnt. Looks more like summer from The OC cough i mean Eden from Heroes ( yeah less gay example, good job Dave)

And this thread is making me weep

EDIT: looked up google and she doesnt look like either of our examples

 

[old.Tohtori]

NO she doesnt. Looks more like summer from The OC cough i mean Eden from Heroes ( yeah less gay example, good job Dave)

And this thread is making me weep

EDIT: looked up google and she doesnt look like either of our examples

Not even close to this:

But true, a bit like this:

Thought hat alphabeat girl looks a bit more tomboy.

 

[Sparx]

she was gorgeous in Jumper

I love in the space of 3 posts we have bloked this thread up somewhat

 

[old.Tohtori]

I love in the space of 3 posts we have bloked this thread up somewhat

I post and the whisky, cigar, sexoring(or there lack of bent up energy) just oozes into threads

 

[Dukat]

I can see the resemblance Bahumat

I dont know what it is, I was browsing youtube and saw the video for the 10000 nights remix and just thought "awww, I WANT ONE"

Also, that 22/7 is just an approximation it seems jarahl, although a very close one

It just irritates me, we know that if you make a circle with a diameter of 1m, you can measure the circumference and get pi. I mean its a physical length, yet we dont know exactly what it is? I dont see how its possible

 

[old.Tohtori]

Pi is like my pinis, it's adjustable to any need :lol:

 

[Chronictank]

Pi is like my pinis, it's adjustable to any need :lol:

and still only 3.14..... inches

 

[old.Tohtori]

and still only 3.14..... inches

Aye, it is, but pi-nis gets the job done!

 

[Chronictank]

lol that actually made me cringe irl

 

[Jarahl]

Isnt that just an appoximation though?

Nope, that is the exact number that equals pi.

22 devided with 7 is equal pi.

You cannot put it down in 3,....... numbers tho as that would be infinite, but 22/7 is the exact number

 

[Uara]

Fuck all this numberwang, its too geeky!

The middle girl? she looks like Hanna Spearit(sp?) from S Club 7

Hmmmmm that second guy on the left reminds me slightly
of Jimmy Carr but with more hair! Anyone else agree or am I just seeing things?

 

[Bugz]

22/7 is not the exact value of pi.

I don't know who told you that!