Ok Sorcs not OP no?

[bult]

So many noobs in this thread... You even threw in some whine about fire wizards in there! good job asshole, they are only the worst caster in daoc (yesyes i know there are worse specclines but not worse caster classes)

 

[wittor]

dont be mean martin

 

[Ahlgard]

Hehe. I think Freddys House should change name to Aggro House. Or Insult House? Thats more fitting.

 

[Aussie]

they will come back with:

"omg aug healer with celeriyt can pwn hard, added FZ"
"omg combat spec bard with fz quadraplepwnz!!!"

or not.

seek help, please

 

[RS|Phil]

Blah blah blah... This was quiite an informative thread for the first three pages.

 

[scorge]

Blah blah blah... This was quiite an informative thread for the first three pages.

Really?, You must of beeen reading the wrong thread then....

 

[Dorin]

seek help, please

any ideas? you should know a good one, as a patient you must have experience with that matter

 

[majik]

where is maji ? :<

I logged off to do some mega revision for a mega exam and leave the anonymous retard to be "teh pwnzor". Solly

 

[majik]

Blah blah blah... This was quiite an informative thread for the first three pages.

And the first three pages of the last 20 "omg sorcs are OP" threads were equally as informative....

or not.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

when 2 or more power relics is in one realms posession that realms casters are doing insane damage, regardless if they are RM, SM, Wizzy, Sorc or Chanter.
almost every caster class with a pet is a "notouch" for most melee classes if both solo.
even assassins should leave these casters alone, wich imo is all wrong.
SM, Chanter and Sorc is by far the most dangerous solo/small grp classes.
combined with CC and healing they can do huge damage and are really hard to kill.
casting speed and magic damage had a kickstart with ToA and is by far better than any melee as u cant body guard against magic, u cant block it nor evade it.

there's also usually so many casters around that u can not keep all of them interrupted and if u do get them interrupted 1 QC nuke (lifetap or whatever) is often enough to save them wether its killing you or lifetapping so they survive long enough for someone else to save them etc.

in most cases melee is considered leech even in PvE as even their taunts arent needed anymore, melee is completely useless PvE as well as RvR atm.
Range is all that matters, the longer the better.

if u want to use melee u want a class able to become Banelord, they are pretty awesome, or battlemaster Warden.
give a mmorpg without any magician classes and i would play it without hesitation.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

I'm not a stealther, and if you two would combine your rps I would still have more. Not much more but a little

Enough said!

how many RP u got on one char doesent say anything about how good u are tho, as there is some skilled players that have 8 rr5ish chars, others have 3 rr7-8ish chars and some have 1 rr11 chars.

when playing 1 char that zergs massively it aint all that hard getting to rr11 in 3 years ^^
besides, having a high rr char doesent give u the right to act like a retard

 

[Chronictank]

Sorc:
With 44 in Mindtwisting
Pros
-AE Mez with radius 400 and range 1875 duration 72s
-Self buff -40% duration of mez (-55% when maxed)
-Group Chant -10% duration of mez (-15% when maxed)
-Ability to charm a lvl 50 pet (convoker line meaning summoning mastery)
-AOE Root 49 second duration (73 second when maxed)
-Heat/Cold/Matter debuffs 15% (50% when maxed)
-AOE str/con debuff -66 str

Freebies:
-Baseline lifetap
-Speed
-AOE Amnesia
-AF shield (value 250)
-Self BT
-Self 10% damage absorb

Cons
-Cloth wearer
-No instas
-Low hp

Realm Abilities
-RR5 90% melee/archer damage absorbtion for 20 seconds
-Ichor (yes sorc gets ichor)
-Access to Physical Defence (passive resist vs melee)
-Negative Maelstrom (gtae storm)


Healer:
With 47 Pac for second insta mez
Pros
-Insta mez radius 300 range 1500 duration 31s
-Insta stun radius 150 range 1500 duration 9s (can be maxed to radius 300 duration 10s)
-AOE Mez radius 350 range 1500 duration 65s
-AOE Stun radius 250 range 1500 duration 10s (can be maxed to 11s)
-Combat speed debuff 35% (max 39%)
-1st Insta group heal (50% hp)
-Group heal (163 hp)
-1st insta single heal (55% hp)
-Cure diesease
-Cure Poison
-Chain
-Soj ML line

Freebies:
-10% rez
-AF buff 52
-Str buff 44
-Con buff 47
-Dex buff 48
-Damage buff 1dps
-AOE Amnesia

Cons
-No offensive abilities
-Needs to spec all its main abilities


Realm Abilities
-Barrier of fortude (grp melee dmg absorb)
-divine intervention (hp buffer)
-Perfect Recovery (100% rez)
-RR5 Sputin's Legacy (self rez)

On a personal note i have played both rr5+ and found sorc to be easier in a good grp, flame if you will but thats my opinion.

 

[Ego]

I really fail to see why ppl start comparing sorcerers to healers

 

[Chronictank]

I really fail to see why ppl start comparing sorcerers to healers

both main cc classes of mid and hib

 

[majik]

I really fail to see why ppl start comparing sorcerers to healers

Blame this one.

Be quiet, for someone playing a healer, should not complain about another class being "easy".

 

[Aussie]

Sorc:

Realm Abilities
-RR5 90% melee/archer damage absorbtion for 20 seconds
-Ichor (yes sorc gets ichor)
-Access to Physical Defence (passive resist vs melee)
-Negative Maelstrom (gtae storm)

yep all free etc, comes with baseline moc 3 , 400+ 'they cast too fast' dex and the musthave purge2 RA.

 

[majik]

yep all free etc, comes with baseline moc 3 and 400+ 'they cast too fast' dex

You'll think of something new to say in about a month or so.

Realm Abilities
-Barrier of fortude (grp melee dmg absorb)
-divine intervention (hp buffer)
-Perfect Recovery (100% rez)
-RR5 Sputin's Legacy (self rez)

Suppose healers get all these free on creation too. Try reading the post before you act like a .

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

Amount of useless "information" in this thread is impressive.

 

[majik]

Amount of useless "information" in this thread is impressive.

Thx for the useful info.

 

[Aussie]

You'll think of something new to say in about a month or so.

oh is the class changing then?

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Aye - one combines good offense with cc, whilst the other combines cc with group support and healing.

Ask yourself what aids your group more - 2/3 healers or 2/3 sorcs.

 

[majik]

oh is the class changing then?

Yes, sorc gets bolt range insta mez, so they can become balanced in rvr.

 

[Jaem-]

what does a sorc have that no other cc class has ?

damage output

Give healers smite! imho

 

[majik]

Give healers smite! imho

Maji the smiting shark. Gifv!!!!

 

[Jaem-]

Vf sent me a screenie of you as a shark in zephyr, was so funny, 1st time I seen that form. ;D

 

[majik]

Vf sent me a screenie of you as a shark in zephyr, was so funny, 1st time I seen that form. ;D

He zephyred me and it broke my ickle shark neck

 

[Ego]

both main cc classes of mid and hib

So they share something in the first 1,5 secs of a battle then :/

still fail to see

 

[Soldierboy]

As soon as im gone for a day im beeing called a Zerger now thats fun stuff !


Cheers!

 

[Kwidz]

lol you cant compare class vs class, check FG vs FG instead

its realm vs realm, thats why i always zerg and r0x1!!!!

 

[OrreBorre]

how many RP u got on one char doesent say anything about how good u are tho, as there is some skilled players that have 8 rr5ish chars, others have 3 rr7-8ish chars and some have 1 rr11 chars.

when playing 1 char that zergs massively it aint all that hard getting to rr11 in 3 years ^^
besides, having a high rr char doesent give u the right to act like a retard

But having a lowbie healer/pala does, I see your point...

I responded to some forum trolls with some objective remarks, I really really do apologize if i hurt their feelings 's

I've zerged and I've played in gank groups. And I can honestly say, gank groups do pay off a great deal more in rps.