Off-topic Mafia #9 Game Thread

[Golena]

I haven't checked on the possible partner yet, leaving that one out of the equation since if i'm wrong about ch3tan, i have to think it all over.

Personally I think that the 2 mafia members lie somewhere in Fl3a, Morphius, Ch3tan and Rubric.

I voted for Rubric mainly because his timing seemed strange and I wanted to try and apply pressure with a 4th vote to see what happened. For the second time Ch3tan bailed on a lynch, I need slightly more time to work out what this means for him.

Fl3a has also been inactive for a long period of time now as well unless i'm mistaken?
I would really like to hear his theories about what's happening at the moment, since he's the one of the 4 that seems to be avoiding all the attention at the moment.

I think Kirrenia could be considered guilty if Rubric is, but without that information he's not a huge candidate for me at the moment. I'm also not completely oblivious to the fact that Toht, Olga and Levin are all experienced players so I am watching their actions closely so I can better evaluate their descisions with the information gained after the first night. They are all playing too well to point a finger at any of them without that extra information however.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't prefer a no lynch 'cause i know i'm dead this night

 

[Golena]

Guess Fl3a showed up while I was posting, ignore that part of my post then.

Cheers Fl3a.

 

[Golena]

I also won't be about until fairly late tonight.

Unvote

My vote on Rubric achieved what I wanted so i'll see what the situation is when I return. If he does't come up with a good reply after reading the thread more closely it's likely to go back on him tho.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm just curious on the main people wanting to hang ch3tan, suddenly bailing hwen i made good points on his hanging and voted so also

 

[fl3a]

if ch3tan gets enough votes i have no problems with playing the executioner. but for now im going to keep my vote.

 

[Levin]

I don't prefer a no lynch 'cause i know i'm dead this night

I think everyone who's a townie feels that way right now.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think everyone who's a townie feels that way right now.

Aye, but especially if i'm right about ch3tan, the mob doesn't want to keep me around 'cause they'll notice how good i am at finding them out.

 

[Levin]

I'm just curious on the main people wanting to hang ch3tan, suddenly bailing hwen i made good points on his hanging and voted so also

I'm easy with voting either Ch3tan or Morphius. But there's still something in the back of my mind that wonders what happened between you and Golena, and so suddenly. Unless you want to reveal it, which i could understand you wouldn't if it would help the mafia, I will have to take more time later and read through carefully until i hopefully understand what you guys were doing. Until then, i hope you understand if i am a bit careful.

 

[Levin]

Aye, but especially if i'm right about ch3tan, the mob doesn't want to keep me around 'cause they'll notice how good i am at finding them out.

Okay. But then they could just as easily want to get rid of me. I've suspected Ch3tan openly for longer than you have.

 

[Levin]

Oh alright. I can't suspect everyone! Here.. I'm officially suspecting Ch3tan and Morphius equally much. And since Ch3tan has more votes right now (i think?) i'll put my vote back on him as well.

Unvote: Morphius

Vote: Ch3tan

 

[Olgaline]

I dont see the link between Toht and golena :s

Why would Toht leave Golena out to dry for quite a long time with with 4 votes and 3 undesiced voters ?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm easy with voting either Ch3tan or Morphius. But there's still something in the back of my mind that wonders what happened between you and Golena, and so suddenly. Unless you want to reveal it, which i could understand you wouldn't if it would help the mafia, I will have to take more time later and read through carefully until i hopefully understand what you guys were doing. Until then, i hope you understand if i am a bit careful.

Well it could be that Golena is using my own tactic against me, but i did this same thing in last game (beta tested it more likely) and i noticed that Golena was doing the same thing right back at me.

Hazzlehazzle, "THis guy is guilty! haaaang!" and then pick up the parts from the other posting behaviors.

As i said, if golena is mafia, it's a damn vile tactic to use against me

That's how i gathered more info on ch3tan, and the parts that made o go "oh wow".

 

[Levin]

Well it could be that Golena is using my own tactic against me, but i did this same thing in last game (beta tested it more likely) and i noticed that Golena was doing the same thing right back at me.

Hazzlehazzle, "THis guy is guilty! haaaang!" and then pick up the parts from the other posting behaviors.

As i said, if golena is mafia, it's a damn vile tactic to use against me

That's how i gathered more info on ch3tan, and the parts that made o go "oh wow".

Ah, I thought it was some such.. using the same "method" so to speak. Well thanks for clearing that up, and it does make sense. I still think it's a nasty tactic no matter what though. Remains to see if it's effective. At least we have a shared suspect now!

 

[kirennia]

I still think morphius is a more likely mafia member. There is however a nagging feeling in the back of my mind that he genuinely didn't understand the rules back when he placed the fourth vote and retracted it making me not as sure about him as I previously was.

Ch3tan hasn't done all that much in my eyes to seem guilty other then to play very aggressively which isn't neccesarily a guilty sign.

Tohtori is always a dodgy one, seeming to sit second or third on my list but never making it to number one through these games; your "cause i know i'm dead this night" comment makes me wonder though as well as your "the mob doesn't want to keep me around 'cause they'll notice how good i am at finding them out"... Maybe it's just my annoyance at these statements or maybe it's just you trying to double bluff the mafia to stay alive as part of your tactic but it's as always, playing havoc in my head.

Levin is also a dodgy one as I've never seen you as a mafia player and you're playing a relatively similar game again now so we wouldn't really know unless we go out on a hunch.

Rubric... can't say anything really as you've only posted once/twice. Theres no information leading either way I guess.

the rest...not sure, the rest haven't really stood out in my mind other then fl3a who is getting quite sporatic (sp?) with his play making me wonder.

I think Kirrenia could be considered guilty if Rubric is

Can see why you'd think that but look back at previous games, I just don't like it when people hold up the game so this time I decided to simply wait until he posted.

Gonna be in all day reading through, hope to have more info for a lynch by the time I head out again. For the time being though, I'll go with:

vote:no lynch

I know it's less action for the first couple of days but if it works to the third day (high chance), the odds are well and truly in our favour.

 

[Iceforge]

Vote Count
Day 1

Rubric - 1 - (Morphius)
Morphius - 1 - (Rubric)
Ch3tan - 3 - (Levin, Olgaline, Old.Tohtori)

No Lynch: 2 (Fl3a, Kirennia)
Not Voted: 2 (Golena, Ch3tan)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

mod I did not realise I had two votes?

You misread it:

First time was you voting (You voting on Rubric)
Second time was someone voting for you! (Old.Tohtori voting on you)

The order of the votecount is:

PersonVotedFor - #OfVotesForThatPerson - (WhoVotedForThatPerson)

 

[old.Tohtori]

Maybe it's just my annoyance at these statements or maybe it's just you trying to double bluff the mafia to stay alive as part of your tactic but it's as always, playing havoc in my head.

Well i have my second target now.

Thanks for f*cking things up while knowing that it's a tactic.

I'm going for ch3tan, but kirennia is right behind him 'cause noone is so stupid that they think "hmm, he might be trying to cover himself from a nightkill" and then announce it!

So i'd tell the doc to cover me just because of this, but there's no point really.

 

[Ch3tan]

You misread it:

First time was you voting (You voting on Rubric)
Second time was someone voting for you! (Old.Tohtori voting on you)

Yeah I just re-read it, morning eyes are not good :/

I would say that toht and golena are the mafia. They have played off each other to establish a rivalry, enough to make us think there is nothing there. More fool you if you think otherwise, killing me will achieve nothing in game terms.

Anyhoo, the only vote open to me is a no lynch as I do not belive 4 more of you are convinced that either toht or golena are guilty. Guess I should never have saved golena from the chop all those pages ago.

vote no lynch

 

[kirennia]

Well i have my second target now.

Thanks for f*cking things up while knowing that it's a tactic.

I'm going for ch3tan, but kirennia is right behind him 'cause noone is so stupid that they think "hmm, he might be trying to cover himself from a nightkill" and then announce it!

So i'd tell the doc to cover me just because of this, but there's no point really.

I didn't know it was a night cover. To be frank, I didn't know if it was just plain arrogance (hence the point of me being annoyed at it) or a cover which, well it doesn't matter if it's been said, double bluff, triple bluff, whatever... it's not like the mafia are going to be any less confused. I just wanted to comment on my annoyance at those statements (note I wasn't the one to start insulting others...).

 

[Olgaline]

all lynches, even those that turnout innocent teach us something if you know what to look for.

And your theory on toht and Golena seems very flawed to me, as I've stated clearly leavin a vote on your accomplis with a one vote safty margin that toht did on golena with three undesided voters makes no sence what so ever!

And you analisis only strengthens my resolve with reguards to my vote for you.
becuase either A your mafia or B your deduction skillz kinda suck!
and well I'll happilly eat tho's words if they do turn out a guilty
Btw No one should take this as me saying toht and Golena arent guilty, they may very well be "I have nothing to proove otherwise" but i very highly dout they are both mafia!

 

[old.Tohtori]

(note I wasn't the one to start insulting others...).

Neither was i.

Convinient you weren't saying it even if you were.

Bah, anyway, ch3tan dies in my books first. This whole "ohwell i guess i'll go novote" etc, alst reply in full, is just fueling the fire.

 

[Ch3tan]

.
This whole "ohwell i guess i'll go novote" etc, alst reply in full, is just fueling the fire.

Erm, what exactly are you saying toht?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Erm, what exactly are you saying toht?

Oh i dunno...

1: I would say that toht and golena are the mafia.

2: More fool you if you think otherwise,

3: Killing me will achieve nothing in game terms.

4: Anyhoo, the only vote open to me is a no lynch as I do not belive 4 more of you are convinced that either toht or golena are guilty.

5: Guess I should never have saved golena from the chop all those pages ago.

Is a bloody good start.

 

[Ch3tan]

Well why not just say that then? You seem to like quoting people, so you should have just done that the first time.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well why not just say that then? You seem to like quoting people, so you should have just done that the first time.

...seriously...now it's a "thing" to quote people?

It was obvious enough that "your post" "fuelling the fire".

You seem to be grasping at anything now that you've been outed. You had some points before, but now you just went "wh...hiu....wasn't me!!"

 

[Ch3tan]

No, I just did not undertsand what you were saying.

It is not a thing to quote people, but it is something to quote people without the posts of others inbetween that make up the substance. Hence why asked people to read the thread carefully after your mass quoting of me a few pages back. Easy to take things out of context when you are just quoting one person with no one else's replies inbetween. but ho hum toht, if I die and prove innocent then hopefully people will realise how evil you are.

 

[old.Tohtori]

No, I just did not undertsand what you were saying.

It is not a thing to quote people, but it is something to quote people without the posts of others inbetween that make up the substance. Hence why asked people to read the thread carefully after your mass quoting of me a few pages back. Easy to take things out of context when you are just quoting one person with no one else's replies inbetween. but ho hum toht, if I die and prove innocent then hopefully people will realise how evil you are.

And people read the thread. Simple. I mass quoted you as i saw it to be. People can make their own decicions. That has nothing to do with this page though, as there's no "in between".

If you're innocent, then i was wrong. You saying i'm evil is then equally wrong.

 

[Morphius]

As has already been mentioned Old.Tohtori and Golena were literally at each other's throats for atleast i'd say 4 pages. It even gets to the point where Toht just goes "first thing, fuck you". To me, that didnt even seem the slightest bit friendly, and as Levin said, if that was him receiving that, then he would've walked. However, Golena didn't even retort it, which leads me to believe that there could've been planning between them. The even more suspicious thing is that after this absolute out-burst, they go to being best friends straight away. with toht saying "let bygones be bygones."

I just think that a succesful way for the mafia to start the game is to be at one another, if used properly and with caution can remove a lot of suspicion from them both. and thus,

Unvote Rubric, Vote Old.Tohtori

 

[old.Tohtori]

As has already been mentioned Old.Tohtori and Golena were literally at each other's throats for atleast i'd say 4 pages. It even gets to the point where Toht just goes "first thing, fuck you". To me, that didnt even seem the slightest bit friendly, and as Levin said, if that was him receiving that, then he would've walked. However, Golena didn't even retort it, which leads me to believe that there could've been planning between them. The even more suspicious thing is that after this absolute out-burst, they go to being best friends straight away. with toht saying "let bygones be bygones."

It's true, it was a tactic as i said myself,used by both, but not of mafia decent. It was a tactic i formed earlier and it worked very well here.

It's dangerous, as it almost got Golena hung, but it brought ch3tan out.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And like i said, i don't know if Golena is mob or not. He might be using my tactic against me.