Off-topic Mafia #9 Game Thread

[Morphius]

Yeh I see your point but I just don't get how the waves settled so quickly... it all seems a little suspicious you know. And to say it was a tactic to go aggro on someone? Unless you're mafia surely that's a sure fire way to get yourself up on peoples suspect list.

 

[Olgaline]

be at eachothers throut ? yes vote each other off NO!

up until today two other players actually topped my suspecion list,
"no I'm not gona tell you who Duh!"
But they havent slipped up yet significantly enough for me to get any kind of probable majority to get the lynched!

However, Ch3tan and Morph have basicly forced me into a situation where i can no longer ignore them as a very likely duo.

and btw yes Kirennia Tohts post got me abit annoyed to, mostly becuase it looked like he was trying to take credit for pointing out ch3tan as a likely suspec, eventho I had done that loong before him, but having sat abck and thought about it, I decided not to post simply due to the simple fact that it seemed to be a stratigic tactic "so I let it pass"
we all need to concider the "why" before we post or respond.
the reply seems abit needlessly harsh tho toht, but thats my two cence.

 

[old.Tohtori]

and btw yes Kirennia Tohts post got me abit annoyed to, mostly becuase it looked like he was trying to take credit for pointing out ch3tan as a likely suspec, eventho I had done that loong before him,

Not at all taken personally and i'm not trying to take credit for it.

Just saying that i suspected ch3tan for long too, just went a different route with it.

And i agree, almsot getting golena hung would've been a really bad idea.

I didn't even retract my vote when golena needed only one.

Though, killing my mafia breathren ain't a firrst

 

[Olgaline]

hehe true true, but on day one with no good reason ?
well ok sure would have bought you a 2 day saftly line but seems a senceless gamble
in comparison to the added vote especially in the endgame. so altho possible I'd palce it in the Unlikely, oh and I know you werent. I ment as in my innitial reaction, but I mostly take a time to digest posts like tho's before responding.

as I said I think we'r very much onto something now with Ch3tan and Morph altho I do have a very likely ulternative if chetan turns up guilty but all in due time...
still riding on a hunch ...

 

[Olgaline]

that would be turns up innocent ofc

 

[Rubric]

The difficulty with being away the time i was is 15 pages is an awful lot of info to get through. When you are in there as it develops you swing with the posts but i swung backwards and forwards as i was reading through. It became too much to go back and quote through, so you will just have to go with my initial gut reaction to reading it and Morph & Golena seem the most likely suspects. Golena's reaction to this seems to strengthen my opinion and him chucking a little suspicion but not much in the way of Morphius stinks of a subtle attempt to divert their links to each other but not so much as to bring suspicion on it if that makes sense.


Here we have reaction to my appearance and suspicions on morph and gol, agressive towards me and attempting to defend Morph without casting suspicion on himself.

Vote Rubric

Speaking up for the first time when the first vote comes his way is suspicious enough in itself.

But casting a vote after quickly skimming through 15 pages of information and not trying to take in what's happened. That's a person i've no desire to live until tommorow.

Sorry, things just don't add up. The fact that Iceforge didn't find a replacement earlier for him also implies to me that he could speak but was choosing not to. Certainly if he hadn't heard from him earlier, I think we'd of seen a replacement, someone had already volunteered after all, assigned sooner.

I've got more reason to vote for him than anyone else at the moment, and at the worst we end up with people we have more information on tommorow so can provide a more informed second vote.

And here is a little subtle attempt and divert the links between him and morphius by casting a little suspicion on him but not enough to get him lynched

Personally I think that the 2 mafia members lie somewhere in Fl3a, Morphius, Ch3tan and Rubric.

I voted for Rubric mainly because his timing seemed strange and I wanted to try and apply pressure with a 4th vote to see what happened. For the second time Ch3tan bailed on a lynch, I need slightly more time to work out what this means for him.

Fl3a has also been inactive for a long period of time now as well unless i'm mistaken?
I would really like to hear his theories about what's happening at the moment, since he's the one of the 4 that seems to be avoiding all the attention at the moment.

I think Kirrenia could be considered guilty if Rubric is, but without that information he's not a huge candidate for me at the moment. I'm also not completely oblivious to the fact that Toht, Olga and Levin are all experienced players so I am watching their actions closely so I can better evaluate their descisions with the information gained after the first night. They are all playing too well to point a finger at any of them without that extra information however.

 

[Rubric]

The defence rests by the way,

 

[Levin]

I think i may have a curse or something. Once everyone starts to agree with me about my suspects, I start to wonder why.. argh. I'm hearing the star wars pilot voice in my head "stay on target... STAY ON TARGET!"

And then the mafia dude comes out of nowhere.. "I have you now..." BLAST!

 

[Olgaline]

if you take your vote off chetan and he ends up guilty or worse wins the game I swear I'm comming after you with a bucket of anal bleech levin!

 

[Golena]

Ok first off since it seems mine and Toht's game has been "outed" as it were here's how I saw things from my perspecive.

I started up by rustling up some random vote on the first person I saw make any kind of half guilty move with a fairly flimsy bit of evidence. Toht jumped all over that with a fairly weak attack on me (from my point of view). Now i'd normally expect arguments from Toht to be slightly more water tight so I stuck with it only really arguing against one of his points to see what came of it.

Ch3tan then jumped on the back of Toht's vote saying that Toht had said it all. Levin started to pick apart some of the flaws in the argument but Ch3tan saw none of them at all. At the point where I really thought I was in danger then I ripped apart as many of the flaws in Toht's argument as I could, and asked one of the other 3 voters to kill me off to prove my innocence. I figured that when I was lynched and proved innocent people might start to go back and look at what had happened slightly more closely, and why Toht's arguments didn't hang together as well as they perhaps should have. At that point Toht dropped off me and made the cryptic comments making me believe that he had infact been leaving holes in his argument to see who would pick them up. That's why the sudden truce came from my end. Even after this Ch3tan still didn't seem to get it, pressing on that Me and Toht were mafia. Well there's very little else he could do at that point I suppose.

For me a no lynch simply isn't an option. There's plenty of targets the mafia could kill off without revealing themselves, and there's a few people who knowing who's side of the fence they are on would be very valuable about now.

I'm going to vote for Ch3tan simply because he's one of the few people that I really want to know which side of the fence he's on to begin tommorows arguments. If he's innocent then there's a good base to begin with. If Levin (for example) dies during the night, there's ony going to be one person maximum with any real information since it doesn't really reduce any of the obvious partnerships at this point, and no way of telling us what it is without exposing himself.

Vote Ch3tan

 

[Golena]

Yeh I see your point but I just don't get how the waves settled so quickly... it all seems a little suspicious you know. And to say it was a tactic to go aggro on someone? Unless you're mafia surely that's a sure fire way to get yourself up on peoples suspect list.

The town can get away with 2 wrong votes in this game. If one of those is on me that's fine as long as they get enough information out of it to locate the mafia with the other 2 votes.
As a townie the last thing I worry about is being up on people's suspect lists, in fact the more i'm up there the more I can twist the mafia into making small mistakes to try and use me for their cover, something that's not really possible to do if your busy trying not to appear suspicious.

I could also argue that appearing too innocent is likely to be the very first thing that gets you night killed, since the mafia hardly wants to kill off the suspicious townie and leave the obvious innocent lying around, since the whole point is to keep the other townies guessing.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The town can get away with 2 wrong votes in this game.

I think it's three though

First 2 deaths.
Second 2 deaths.
Then we're at 3vs2 still, final choice aka.

 

[Olgaline]

so that leaves us with: ?
Old.Tohtori - 1 - (Morphius)
Morphius - 1 - (Rubric)
Ch3tan - 4 - (Levin, Olgaline, Old.Tohtori, golena)

No Lynch: 2 (Fl3a, Kirennia)
Not Voted: 1 (Ch3tan)

 

[old.Tohtori]

Dunno, better wait for Iceforge to confirm, or jsut vote away...but yeah...i think ch3tan is one away.

 

[fl3a]

as i said before:

unvote
vote: ch3tan

 

[Iceforge]

Vote Count
Day 1:

Old.Tohtori - 1 - (Morphius)
Morphius - 1 - (Rubric)
Ch3tan - 5 - (Levin, Olgaline, Fl3a, Golena, Old.Tohtori)

No Lynch: 2 (Kirennia, Ch3tan)

IT'S A LYNCH!!!!
The townies quickly lynch poor Ch3tan and ransack his house, to find out he was: Ch3tan, the Town Doctor

Sad day for the town!!
Hopefully tomorrow's meeting would go better.

Start Night 1! Do not post in thread! All who is alive and got nightchoises, send them to me ASAP! Deadline is Monday at 20.00 CET (no deadlines in weekend by popular demand)

 

[Iceforge]

The town wakes up and gathers in the town hall.
To the horror, on the floor next to the corpse of Ch3tan, lies fl3a, dead with a bullet through his skull.
Going through his pockets, they find a out he was: Fl3a, the Town Cop, dead on night 1.
The 7 left alive now had to find out which 2 of them was mafia without the aid of a doctor nor of a cop.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Start day 2, feel free to post and vote again all who is still alive!

Players Alive: Morphius, Rubric, Levin, Olgaline, Golena, Old.Tohtori, Kirennia

 

[old.Tohtori]

*cough*

Right. Well...umm...*packs car* I'ma getting out of here!

 

[Levin]

If we manage to turn this around now we deserve a medal. I'd like to send a post mortem apology to Ch3tan whom I really thought was guilty. Now we really have to try and use the info we got on day one.

 

[Golena]

Fl3a is a very weird choice of night target.

As the last person to Lynch Ch3tan, and one of my primary 4 targets on day 1 i'm struggling to see why the mafia would want him dead this early.
Are there any hints to him being the cop that I might of missed?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Vote: Golena

Gut feeling, i don't know anymore.

 

[Golena]

Vote: Golena

Gut feeling, i don't know anymore.

Exactly the reason that I begged someone to kill me yesterday. I saw this one coming a mile off.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Exactly the reason that I begged someone to kill me yesterday. I saw this one coming a mile off.

What coming exactly?

I thought ch3t was guilty, was wrong.
I thought fl3a or Morp could be ch3ts buddies, now i doubt Morp.
I think you might be playing us all, so i vote for you.

 

[Levin]

Fl3a is a very weird choice of night target.

As the last person to Lynch Ch3tan, and one of my primary 4 targets on day 1 i'm struggling to see why the mafia would want him dead this early.
Are there any hints to him being the cop that I might of missed?

Not so strange, really. He was one of, if not the, least suspect of the townspeople. Did anyone ever vote on him? I think it was you yourself who said that the mafia gains by picking off those people who people are unlikely to vote for. So.. it seems to make sense to me. That he was the cop was of course just a lucky bonus for the mafia.

What doesn't make sense is that you would "miss" this, after having mentioned the motive yourself earlier. Could it be an attempt to distance yourself from mafia thinking only to appear more innocent?

 

[old.Tohtori]

As far as i see it that is, yes, hanging ch3tan was a mistake but nothing new there. We kill our peeps all the time. Getting the doc+cop combo out was VERY lucky for the mafia, no way they could know that.

Seeing as i was completely wrong day one, and with the info of hang+nightkill, etc...just think Golena is naughty.

Not gonna be bothered to explain it further, will watch other people and what they say though.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Oh by the by, if Levin(for example) isn't mafia and voted for Golena, we'd get a REALLY fast way to tell if he is or isn't mafia.

If the two remaining mafia don't vote Golena out, hey, we were wrong.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah yeah i know:

If he's innocent, we give mafia a chance to kill him straight off.
If he's not, we'd still have to hang him.

What can i do, it makes no sense either way but i feel i'm right(i know).

 

[Levin]

Oh by the by, if Levin(for example) isn't mafia and voted for Golena, we'd get a REALLY fast way to tell if he is or isn't mafia.

If the two remaining mafia don't vote Golena out, hey, we were wrong.

That only works if you, yourself, aren't mafia either. But yes I see what you mean. So you want to test the waters then? Have to vote for someone, and Golena's last post was a bit uncharacteristic for him. I just hope we don't have a Morphius/Rubric mafia combo here because if we do I think they'll win.

Vote: Golena

 

[Morphius]

Jesus christ... the chances of that happening are surely incredibly slim... I've looked back over Fl3a's comments and there's nothing to suggest he was the cop or doctor, so a very lucky guess by the mafia.

I see why Golena wanted us to lynch him before, he knew he didn't play a key role in the game as a boring townie meaning we wouldn't have lost our doc and cop. However by telling people to vote for him he made people unvote as a reaction, a clever tactic which might not have worked on a lot of occasions, but this time did.

I really don't know at this point, I was suspicious of Ch3tan but didn't really have sound evidence for voting for him so I went for who I knew least about thinking they may have been hiding in the shadows trying to remain un-noticed.

I have a couple of people who I suspect and it's really just a matter of time until they can't string the cover together completely and the true identity revealed.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah Levin, basically testing, though, in a very very grim fashion

I'd suggest anyone who is a townie NOT to vote for golena though, assuming me and levin are.