Off-topic Mafia #9 Game Thread

[old.Tohtori]

Golena and Tohtori, I was just wondering.. what was it that made you guys form a "peace", so to speak? You seemed to be talking some secret language there for a while. And no, I don't mean that I think you're mafia! It just came so suddenly, I was kind of surprised, is all. Was it that you were both using the same "method" or something?

First rule of Fight Club

 

[Levin]

*watches tumbleweeds*

Anyone heard from Morphius or Fl3a lately? Basicly it feels like we have three rather inactive people in this game.

 

[Morphius]

I'm here Lev don't worry, I've just been watching the arguments flow and the speculation rise. This round has gone on for so long now I have no idea who is who anymore. Everyone, to me, has done things which hold em in my eyes to be guilty but at the same time I can't build up a definitive picture anymore. I've read and re-read the discussions and can't decide.

I'm still waiting to hear from Rubric, he hasn't made any form of communication from day 1 so it's impossible to have built a character up of him. Can we get a replacement for him? At the minute he's doing nothing, no contributions and at the same time stopping us from playing the game.

so for now.

Unvote

 

[kirennia]

Thought it best not to go near my computer last night so I just went straight to sleep...

Have just read through all of the comments and know who I'm going to vote for but I'm not going to do it until this rubric situation is sorted out. It's hardly going to be the even game it should be if we're a player down, especially if he turned out to be a part of the mafia.

 

[Levin]

It's got to be more than 24 hours since he was prodded now?

 

[Levin]

Did this game just die or... what happened? *pokes everyone*

 

[old.Tohtori]

Did this game just die or... what happened? *pokes everyone*

Interesting how ch3tan fell silent after i put my full plan to motion and showed him as he is.

 

[Iceforge]

Enough with the requests about Rubric.

Fact of the matter is that the rules for activity aren't made as tough as some people here want them to be and I am not going to make them tougher in the middle of a game.
Stop asking for him to be replaced. I got the request for prod, I have done the prod, I am handling it from this point. Second guessing my decisions just serves to anoy me.
But, for those who think that is too slow: https://forums.freddyshouse.com/off-topic-21/228709-off-topic-mafia-8-sign-up-thread-4.html

I made some changes for the future.

 

[Iceforge]

Vote Count
Day 1

Morphius - 1 - (Levin)
Ch3tan - 2 - (Olgaline, Old.Tohtori)
Golena - 1 - (Ch3tan)

No Lynch: 1 (Fl3a)
Not Voted: 4 (Morphius, Rubric, Golena, Kirennia)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

 

[Olgaline]

I dont have a vote for ch3tan and levins vote is on ch3tan not morph

 

[Iceforge]

Gah! Just found out there was an error in my vote count txt. Thanks for pointing it out Olgaline
Should be right now, if something is wrong now, please let me know

Vote Count
Day 1

Ch3tan - 2 - (Levin, Old.Tohtori)
Golena - 2 - (Fl3a, Ch3tan)

Not Voted: 5 (Morphius, Rubric, Olgaline, Golena, Kirennia)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

 

[kirennia]

Enough with the requests about Rubric.

Fact of the matter is that the rules for activity aren't made as tough as some people here want them to be and I am not going to make them tougher in the middle of a game.
Stop asking for him to be replaced. I got the request for prod, I have done the prod, I am handling it from this point. Second guessing my decisions just serves to anoy me.
But, for those who think that is too slow: https://forums.freddyshouse.com/off-topic-21/228709-off-topic-mafia-8-sign-up-thread-4.html

I made some changes for the future.

Is all fair enough mate, I'm just not willing to vote for someone when one member has been completely silent up until now. I didn't mean anything bad towards you if that's what you felt, I'm just not going to continue posting/vote until everyone has had their say

 

[Golena]

Did this game just die or... what happened? *pokes everyone*

Sorry Levin, I work during the day.

Interesting how ch3tan fell silent after i put my full plan to motion and showed him as he is.

Agreed, however i'm not going to view it as guilty since I wouldn't of been able to respond either in that timeframe.

I'm not going to do any more however until both the following have happened.

Ch3tan responds to your allegations.
The Rubric situation is dealt with. My feelings is that he got a vanilla townie role and so didn't bother playing since it didn't interest him, so voting him off would be like starting with 7.

 

[Golena]

First rule of Fight Club

Don't worry Levin. If you think about it hard enough you'll see what happened.

 

[Golena]

Mod question

Hope this doesn't just irk you more m8.

Player failing to respond in PM to me (either saying he is inactive on purpose or saying he is going to resume activity) will after a undetermined time period result in either ModKill or, preferably, replacement

Are you able to tell us roughly how long that undeterined time period is? Are we going to be sat here another 2 days waiting for a response, or is it likely to be soon. Don't worry if you don't feel you want to answer this.

 

[Ch3tan]

Righto.

Toht, I have been working, I know this is a foreign concept to you, but it does take up 12-14 hours of my day.

I could make golena, or toht or levin look just as bad. This comes from the fact we have all been active. When you quote me like that it looks bad, if you actually take the time to read the thread then I have been doing exactly what Golena claims himself to have done. Shitstir to get info. I have not however lied or contradicted myself that I know off.

I'd actually say you are more dangerous than golena, and so in a tit for tat shocker I am going to vote for you. Well done Golena, you escaped.

I realise I will probably be lynched now, and to be fair I do not care, too many inactive people and way to much game theory being talked here. killing the fun of the game.

vote Seal

 

[Ch3tan]

The Rubric situation is dealt with. My feelings is that he got a vanilla townie role and so didn't bother playing since it didn't interest him, so voting him off would be like starting with 7.

Or he is your mafia partner and you would be pissed if he got voted off?

 

[Iceforge]

Mod question

Hope this doesn't just irk you more m8.



Are you able to tell us roughly how long that undeterined time period is? Are we going to be sat here another 2 days waiting for a response, or is it likely to be soon. Don't worry if you don't feel you want to answer this.

See reasons to either answer and not answer the question.The reason I left the details of it being unknown was so that people deciding to use silence as a tactic wouldn't be outed immidietely on it (which is also why that tactic would not be allowed in speedy games in the future).

I can say, however, that at the moment it does not appear to be the case with Rubric and it is closing in on the time limit put forth, so he might be replaced soon.

I think something has happened to him, as he has not been online and posting since the 1st, so i suspect this is not a case about being silent on purpose, but rather of something unexpected turning up preventing him from partaking right now, which is also a reason not to replace him right now, because if he gets to be free to play later tonight or tomorrow for instance, it is just 4 days where he was prevented from posting and he might then post more frequently and be active, so a replacement would have been unneeded.

 

[Iceforge]

vote Seal

Player seal not found, please come again

 

[Ch3tan]

vote toht

Now as for rubric. This first day has taken a stupidly long time, but it is not usual for them to last so long. Rubric in theory could have sat out a couple of days with no consequence. The point of these games is to find flaws in the arguments of others to try and find the badguys, when people say nothing it makes it very difficult for those that are active to play. I realise you want to be fair to everyone Iceforge, but it is killing this game.

 

[Golena]

I realise I will probably be lynched now, and to be fair I do not care, too many inactive people and way to much game theory being talked here. killing the fun of the game.

Agree with the innactivity. I've no problem with Morph's tactic of observing for a while since he responded when prodded, and his lack of talking can therefore be viewed as a tactic.

Talking game theory shows up far more about people to my mind than simply saying, omg he said I was evil lynch him.
Anyone can say I'm not mafia, he is. Without looking at the reasons for voting/not voting i.e. game theory you might as well throw votes about until someone dies. I think there's been plenty of random crap throwing to go round the side of it.

 

[Iceforge]

Just to clearify, I played a Pie E7 game that took 74 days, of which day 1 was 67 days of that. Just pointing it out, not saying I wasn't feeling that game was a bit slow, but thinking that any games on here until now has been slow, specially due to no reaching a lynch in 4 days, just doesn't seem very patient or anything rational to me.

 

[Ch3tan]

Fair enough then. Well as no one seems to be active right now apart from Golena, I guess my vote on toht is kinda wasted right now. Might as well try to speed things up instead.

unvote toht
vote Rubric the inactive

 

[Olgaline]

As I've already mentioned,
Voting Rubric seems redundant atm, better to wait and let English have the spot.
Then, if we wish we can skin Him alive "english that is"

but the likelyhood of rubric being anything other than a townie are slim at best, and most likely a vanilla to boot, so I see no reason what so ever to do that.

 

[Olgaline]

Infact, a move like that makes me want to place my vote smack back on your tuchus.

 

[Ch3tan]

Well I can hardly switch my vote again can I? Someone will go and quote me.

I will say though, that if 5 people vote for me then 3 are making a mistake.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Righto.

Toht, I have been working, I know this is a foreign concept to you, but it does take up 12-14 hours of my day.

I could make golena, or toht or levin look just as bad. This comes from the fact we have all been active. When you quote me like that it looks bad, if you actually take the time to read the thread then I have been doing exactly what Golena claims himself to have done. Shitstir to get info. I have not however lied or contradicted myself that I know off.

I'd actually say you are more dangerous than golena, and so in a tit for tat shocker I am going to vote for you. Well done Golena, you escaped.

I realise I will probably be lynched now, and to be fair I do not care, too many inactive people and way to much game theory being talked here. killing the fun of the game.

So your defence is basically telling me i don't read the thread that, as an insinuation, that i don't know what "work" is. Riiight.

Well, since you didn't even answer naything(answer means counter)you look even more guilty. Fair game.

And if you're so bored of the game, vote becomes even more important as i don't want to keep players here who don't want to play.

 

[Ch3tan]

Actually I was referring to the other players reading the thread and not simply taking your quotes at face value.

 

[Olgaline]

Just had a thought here.
dono what to make of it yet, but!
Reading back I have to consider the option of Golena/Kirennia mob team.

- when the vote count was 4 on golena, the only left were my self rubric and Kirennia well rubric is MIA and I know why I didnt vote for golena strait off "wanted to question him first! but why did Kirennia not finish him off whats his reason ?
- They have both followed the same basic stratagy both advocated and argued the no lynch, yet both have voted for multiple targets since page one


Now I know It's hard for me to argue anything on Kirennias lack of vote when there were 4 votes on golena as well I chose the same boat, what I do find funny is why No one has questioned it at all ???

and guess the only target I could chose out of the two "to cover my own back would be golena, yet I'm reluctant to do so, as I struggel to find concreat suspecion to warrent that atm

 

[Golena]

Just to clearify, I played a Pie E7 game that took 74 days, of which day 1 was 67 days of that. Just pointing it out, not saying I wasn't feeling that game was a bit slow, but thinking that any games on here until now has been slow, specially due to no reaching a lynch in 4 days, just doesn't seem very patient or anything rational to me.

I've no problem with arguing round in circles for another 50 days if need be. The problem at the moment is that no-one really wants to do anything, because it's impossible to argue against someone just doing nothing. The only argument anyone can really come up with is that he's a townie because he's completely inactive and can't be arsed to play a vanilla. Now there's no discussion left there, and you can't argue it because who would you argue it with? All it really leaves you with is anger that someone would confirm, then decide they can't be arsed.
I don't think it's the amount of time it's taking, it's just the perception that people sign up with the intention of only playing if they get a mafia roll that annoys us, and so far there's zero evidence that isn't the case since I don't believe it's the first time it's happened. If he comes back in a day with a good reason fair enough, but until then it's frustrating, not least because voting a member of the mafia off becomes even less likely with a vanilla that isn't going to vote.