Off-topic Mafia #8 Game Thread

[old.Tohtori]

or I was typing while you psoted ? I dont sit and spam F5 to see if someone replies and sometimes i take my time in the reply window, so thats hardly proof of anything other than just yet another attempt at trying to make me look guilty

No attempts, you do it all on your own.

I didn't mean "right at that second", i meant all the time, you've answered ONE thing this whole time, and that with lies.

 

[Olgaline]

Unvote: Olgaline

Vote: English

oh now this makes sence, I found it very odd

lol aye, from page 1 quiet till page 10, and then vote on olgaline.

Bit of info about that english?

I compleatly missed english's vote on me in the infight with toht.

 

[Olgaline]

I'm tempted to switch to English, but allas previously going for the inactive ones, hasnt exactly paid off, it's more been the cuasiouse "except toht" but active players that have turned out guilty in the end.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'll do this ONCE more:

You only claimed the "testing waters" after i told you i voted for you to do so.
You came up with the "i was testing you!" after i voted you, as YOU said, by my gut.
You went off the tangent when i did what YOU asked to do.
You keep claiming "not mafia not mafia", always have, almost every post.
You haven't said anything except "revenge" for reasons to hang me.
You have this vicious thing of "let him hang innocent or not" that i don't prefer.
You advocated for no hang until it became popular to hang someone, then you "suddenly" changed your mind.
You claimed LEvin to be in "kahootch"(by saying it's the only option) right after he "jumped wagon" with me.
You avoided ALL these points several times with simply a "he's playing the mafia thing again".
When it became clear you can't answer these, you went all "peace brothers" on us.


Clear enough for you?

 

[Levin]

oh now this makes sence, I found it very odd



I compleatly missed english's vote on me in the infight with toht.

Hehe, I thought you might have.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Regarding English' vote, sure, bit quiet and bandwagony but nothing compared to the list i just posted.

 

[Levin]

I'm tempted to switch to English, but allas previously going for the inactive ones, hasnt exactly paid off, it's more been the cuasiouse "except toht" but active players that have turned out guilty in the end.

I'm not sure this is entirely true. Inactive players have been mafia in the past. In fact English himself was mafia in one of the earlier games, and he's always had pretty much the same quiet style except when he's in danger. It's a tactic among others I suppose.

Calo feels like his usual self, as do both you (Olgaline) and Tohtori, and I believe I am too. Fl3a is a little quieter than usual, as is Golena. It might not mean anything at all though, so this is just an objective observation.

 

[- English -]

I'm not sure this is entirely true. Inactive players have been mafia in the past. In fact English himself was mafia in one of the earlier games, and he's always had pretty much the same quiet style except when he's in danger. It's a tactic among others I suppose.

Calo feels like his usual self, as do both you (Olgaline) and Tohtori, and I believe I am too. Fl3a is a little quieter than usual, as is Golena. It might not mean anything at all though, so this is just an objective observation.

well aint checking FH much atm, when i do i read like 100 posts, go back to AOC, read another 100 posts

its still the first day though, not really much to comment on

 

[Olgaline]

I'll do this ONCE more:

You only claimed the "testing waters" after i told you i voted for you to do so.
You came up with the "i was testing you!" after i voted you, as YOU said, by my gut.
You went off the tangent when i did what YOU asked to do.
You keep claiming "not mafia not mafia", always have, almost every post.
You haven't said anything except "revenge" for reasons to hang me.
You have this vicious thing of "let him hang innocent or not" that i don't prefer.
You advocated for no hang until it became popular to hang someone, then you "suddenly" changed your mind.
You claimed LEvin to be in "kahootch"(by saying it's the only option) right after he "jumped wagon" with me.
You avoided ALL these points several times with simply a "he's playing the mafia thing again".
When it became clear you can't answer these, you went all "peace brothers" on us.


Clear enough for you?

this is such a one sided twist i dont even know if i cba to comment on the points.

i will say this tho' it's funyn how you are relentlessly persuing the one thing you apparently so highly object to.

each time he deliberatly each and every post takes what i say and attempts to turn or twist it into some form of evidance or suggestion to persuade you of my apparent guilt. that dosent strike anyone as odd at all ?

why would you go out and before hand procliam "oh btw!! I'm just testign the waters! ? that would defeat it's purpouse

and that last bit of lets be friends ? OH come ON really ? you cant be seriouse! even after i explain that i was typing while he replied instead of going oh ok! he stick to it as if it was some evidence of anything ?
your attacks are getting weaker and weaker, and dono that i cba anymore
and again he tries to convince you I looped on my self on the no lynch I didnt! and if you read back you'll easily see that I advocated this up until i myself got targeted and retaliated nothing more. I still think it would have been the best choice and I've never straid from this, but as i stated earlier I do think we'r quite a bit past the point of no return on that, and hats off for that as as i stated it's been effectivly taken from should we lynch or shouldnt we to Who should we lynch!
and well basicly on this bit he got his was didnt he ? or did you miss that part?

the way I see it ont he subject of toht there are two posibilities

A: A case of dealing with a bruised ego
B: He's mafia

 

[Olgaline]

got his way

 

[old.Tohtori]

I listed what i've been asking you to answer, in a clear way, and THAT is your answer?

There's no bruised ego.
There's no twist.
There's the things i've been asking you to explain since this started.

How about answer, instead of use AGAIN the SAME thing you've answered with eveyr single time?

The point about you claiming after me that you just "test the waters" came around three-four posts later, you would've claimed it earlier, but i guess oyu didn't come up with it yet.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And the point about you starting the "let's be friends" thing wasn't towards that ONE post, it was towards you noticing way before you couldn't answer what i asked.

As you evidently can't.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And just as an additional thing, i'm not trying to convince anyone, i'm purely asking you, YOU, and YOU alone.

You on the other hand keep telling "the townfolk" about my evil ways.

 

[Olgaline]

oh and he'll have you belive i said lets be friends..

heh well I didnt quite say that did I?
I said

can tho maybe agree to wait on the rest of the players to give thir take on things and opinion before we carry on ?

becuase what i cant help but think is, and if you two are actually innocent is,
how contrctuive is it to keep argueing or defending trying to reason with someone if they infact are mafia? it's not like your going to convince them to change thier mind ?
the only thing you can ever achive is to potentially supply them with more ammo to push thier case.

and well, we'r closing in on page 10 and nothings really happend other than me and toht having been at eachothers throughts.

I was making a point that it's page up and down of toht v me
and we can keep at this for ages without it getting us anywhere what so ever.

I have my Pov and vote he has his, neither is backing down so why carry on endlessly ?
that arguing with someone if they are mafia is pointless as they wont back down if they feel they can get you convicted so why keep at it if all your gona do is give them more ammo

thats hardly friendly do you think ?

yet he'll have you belive that was a case of oh! hold on lets be friends, lets lynch someone els.

yet I havent have I ?
I've stuck to my opinion and only ever changed it if given a good reason to do so. as with the cop "even if that was my own reason"

I could very easily just jump on golena or english yet I question it instead
so ask your self who's the one holding the pitchfork here, and what is each of us standing to gain by all this eh ?

 

[Olgaline]

aah now I'm catching on, tho's arent questions tho's are accusations!
and i'vew preatty much adressed it so cba to go in circles

 

[old.Tohtori]

Right. Ignore everything again.

Yeah, i think we're done here, if this doesn't prove to people you'r not all "pure and daisies", nothing will.

 

[Olgaline]

Right. Ignore everything again.

Yeah, i think we're done here, if this doesn't prove to people you'r not all "pure and daisies", nothing will.

aye we'r done

and as I've clearly stated to me it looks nothing more than a bruised ego or by now failed mafia attempt at getting me hung.

the only question flicking in my mind is there is no obviouse accomplis to toht.
well except maybe English ? who landed that tricky timed vote

 

[old.Tohtori]

Oh for f*cks sake...

No bruised ego, just banging my head agianst the wall to get ANY answers from you.

Only thing i might even consider "getting pissed off about" is the fact you metagame me by saying "toht is dangerous innocent or not".

 

[fl3a]

holy hell how fast you are posting again, getting toht vs ECA flashbacks from game 1 again!
but just letting you know that i am doing my best to be a part of this game, i just havent had the time to thoroughly read every post as is necessary in a mafia game. maybe tomorrow morning ill post an analysis and a vote.

 

[Olgaline]

Oh for f*cks sake...

No bruised ego, just banging my head agianst the wall to get ANY answers from you.

Only thing i might even consider "getting pissed off about" is the fact you metagame me by saying "toht is dangerous innocent or not".

well this clinches it for me.
now we'r down what i state from the get go about all this answers talk.
I'm not gonna answer anything as i dont see that i have anything to answer that i havent already adressed "and that little list of twisted accusations arent questions tho's are twisted facts to attempt to make me look guilty nothing more" to except you relentless accusation of just that fact:

to the rest i can only encourage you to flip back through the pages and draw your own conclusions. is he doing that nooo!!!

he still wants to yet again try to convince you that i havent answerd some questions and here are tho's *cough* "questions"

You only claimed the "testing waters" after i told you i voted for you to do so.
You came up with the "i was testing you!" after i voted you, as YOU said, by my gut.
You went off the tangent when i did what YOU asked to do.
You keep claiming "not mafia not mafia", always have, almost every post.
You haven't said anything except "revenge" for reasons to hang me.
You have this vicious thing of "let him hang innocent or not" that i don't prefer.
You advocated for no hang until it became popular to hang someone, then you "suddenly" changed your mind.
You claimed LEvin to be in "kahootch"(by saying it's the only option) right after he "jumped wagon" with me.
You avoided ALL these points several times with simply a "he's playing the mafia thing again".
When it became clear you can't answer these, you went all "peace brothers" on us.

now baring whats gone down the past 10 pages what would you think in my situation about that list ?

he constantly avoids the things i bring up wich question his motives yet he accuses me off just that ? havent I already spent enough pages of defence for us to move past this now and maybe start questioning HIS motives here ?

 

[Olgaline]

I'm done defending myself from these "you havent answered my questions accusation"
it's gettign old fast, and hopefully people will by now have seen through this little stratagy of yours...

you fail to provide any real proof of any stratagy on my part, you fail to provide any real proof of my apparent guilt other than twists. you fail at suggesting any accomplis that i could have.

Infact you provide NO theory what so ever as to why i could be mafia toher than "he isnt answerign my accusations without any real evidence.

I' suggest to you all that he very well might be mafia and he might very well be working with english, as that vote by english was a very clever one. it's all pices here and there yet No clear line what so ever as to why i would be mafia and what i could achive by all this.

So maybe I should vote for english ?

 

[old.Tohtori]

he constantly avoids the things i bring up wich question his motives yet he accuses me off just that ? havent I already spent enough pages of defence for us to move past this now and maybe start questioning HIS motives here ?

But you haven't addressed ANYTHING! Not one! Nada!

Only thing you have said is "toht twists things" over and over.

No twisting as there was nothing to twist when i asked those, then came your "you twist" things, then i asked again...and again...and again....

And you haven't still even made the points clear i supposedly haven't answered. Or tell what points you have for me to hang.

Can you answer ANYTHING?!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Or are you seriously saying you didn't do what the list says? SERIOUSLY?

 

[old.Tohtori]

You've been agianst me since page two, agressive, and even going then off the tangent when i even MIGHT have suggested you as mafia.

 

[Olgaline]

can you ?

only thing you've said is he isnt answering my questions! see? guilty!!!!
and i answer again and again and again!

I've even suggested we leave it and let the others make up thier own minds yet noooo!
you keep pushing!

I think made my points preaty clear, hell I've even given them probeble cause as to why you would be mafia what have you brought to the table other than lets lynch Olga guilty guilty!!

 

[old.Tohtori]

can you ?

only thing you've said is he isnt answering my questions! see? guilty!!!!
and i answer again and again and again!

I've even suggested we leave it and let the others make up thier own minds yet noooo!
you keep pushing!

I think made my points preaty clear, hell I've even given them probeble cause as to why you would be mafia what have you brought to the table other than lets lynch Olga guilty guilty!!

I can, IF YOU WOULD F*CKING POST YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!!

Get it?!

You say "you're not doing this" while you keep doing the same f*cking thing.

And no, you haven't answered anything, you've actually said "i won't answer".

 

[old.Tohtori]

And about the f*cking twisting of things, i've never said "hang olgaline he's evil!!!", i voted for you to test some waters, then i'm asking you to clarify or answer ANYTHING. Yet you can't.

You're the one advocating for my mafia status here. You're not answering. You're not giving me anything to answer.

 

[Golena]

Just got in from work and alot to read through. I'll start at the beginning.

One thing I did spot from my glance through is about people being active on the forum and not posting here however..
You can only tell if someone is online if they are actively making posts.. While it tells you at the bottom who's about I imagine I spend about 23 hours a day here since my PC tends to stay turned on normally with a browser still open, so that method isn't reliable.

I'll begin catching up now..

 

[Golena]

First off to respond to Levin's point about me being quieter than usual. This is currently my first Mafia game so either he's basing it on the experiment game or other posts I make. I only really have time to post in the evening so try to put down as much as possible in a short time, then i'll not post for a while. I think i've pertty much followed this behaviour.

A few things to think about here tho..

If the mafia arn't self voting it's more likely that the people voted for are going to be innocent statistically speaking. I guess also as a member of the mafia it's more important to keep a low profile and not get voted off on the first day than it is to information gather.
It would also make sense to be the first person to vote on someone since it appears less suspicious than being the last person.

I'm going on a hunch, and it really is no more than that because i've got nothing else at the moment.

Unvote fl3a
Vote Levin

Reasoning..
He's currently slipped nicely under the voting radar, so statistically speaking there's more chance of him being mafia (although it's only a tiny amount).
He's been much quieter than normal, and all his posts have had what I read to be subtle undertones of trying to imply people without really implying them. Almost in a think about voting for X, but I didn't tell you to think about voting for X kind of a way.

He also removed his vote from me and placed it on Olgaline when Toht started accusing him, but didn't really give any reasons giving him the second, (not really suspicious but helping people along again) vote.
When Olgaline got 3 votes he also removed it, I view this as 50/50 between not wanting an early wrong lynch, or ammo for why he's innocent later by saying he removed it.

Nothing more than a hunch like I said, but all the arguing hasn't really given me a good feeling for either side, other than 2 people trying to stir up information, which is what the town should be doing.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well hell...*puts down tactical nuke*...that actually makes sense