tierk
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......Palestine supported the Nazis (and vice versa) during WW2........
How many of the 6,000,000 jews that died in gas chambers etc died at the hands of Palestinains? Now how many died at the hands of Germans, Romanians, Poles and pretty much all the eastern european countries? If this is the basis of having your country turned into a jewish state then there are quite a few other countries that would be faaaar ahead of Palestine on that list.
......A lot is better today than it was before and I doubt that the Arabs lived in a more peaceful way to the Jews than they do it today. At the moment we are in one if not in the most peaceful times the humans ever lived in.........
Maybe things are peaceful for you in Poland but they sure as hell aint peaceful in other pasrts of the world. Congo, Rwanda, Iraq, Colombia, the list of places were there is long standing conflicts is long.
Your assertion that you dont think that Arabs treated Jews better before all the troubles with Palestine is just your personal thoughts and not based in any sort of fact. Arabs and Jews hve long lived together in harmony and it has been the Europeans that have throughout history been the ones to persecute Jews, either in Europe or in the Holy Land whenever they have set foot there.
......You didn't make any points about the lack of the education in for example Palestine. You didn't make any points to of how sovereign islamistic countries are (Iran) or were (Afghanistan) ruled?.........
How do you expect any kids to get a education when they are forced to go through 500 road blocks, get searched, need a billion passes to get from there home to the school or university? FyI Palestinians people are one of the more highly educated people in the arab world and if you had ever been to the Middle East you would know this. Its just that in Palestine its a bit difficult to go to school.
As for you asking about the government in Iran and how it is run i would say to you what business of your is it? If they dont like there system of government they will change it themselves just as they did when they got rid of the Shah. You would have thought that after all the wars fought to try and change systems of government or prop up unpopular ones people would have learnt change can only come from within unless you expend a vaste amount of resource to efffect change as in ww2 against Germany.
......It's a clash of cultures at the moment for me. On the one side the modern countries seeing human rights as universal, who managed to seperate religion from state and on the otherside countries ruled by despots or religious fanatics.........
lol human rights? That is what you think this is about? Its about the same thing that humans have been fighting for over centuries: Land and resources but now we like to dress it up as something else to try and make ourselves feel better about it.
......Following your way I could ask to restore the power back to when Poland was great power in Europe. I don't think that the Palestinian people need more land in order to survive......
You just dont read very well. At no point i have said that the Palestinians should have all of Palestine back but should as a bare miniuim have back what has been allocated to them by the UN. Your failure to read what i type is just unreal and consider this the last post i make responding to your idiotic posts.
...... I understand it if they want their old identity back, but I think it's a delusion - it will not change anything for the people and the way some are persuing this goal is just getting them and others killed, nothing else.
Its delusional to want there lands back? I stand by my comments you are one dumb fucker.