Nerf Mid please...

[zelur]

IMO its them alb/hib whiners who are playing on "n00b mode"!
Midgard is not "easy mode" Midgard is "Fun Mode"!

 

[Dom]

Well said my lover healur! )


btw Xana, dont need to post the grp we all know who will be in .


TehWarrior!!!!!!! ( jawz if anyone doesnt know it t.t )
Zzang
Soruzi
Tivook
Tehhealur!!!!!!!! ( xanatea if anyone doesnt know it xD )
Tidal
Stubbe
Halsbrann

 

[Medde]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
medde m8 save mi this is going to be a tough ride

its ok hold my hand m8

 

[angara-ffs]

Originally posted by zelur
IMO its them alb/hib whiners who are playing on "n00b mode"!
Midgard is not "easy mode" Midgard is "Fun Mode"!

Right.....

 

[AbPoon]

Nolby lost to some Hib random grp that was half Bulle peeps at about 1am that i noticed that was about only one that stuck out :E

And ye it isnt hard to shread noob unbalenced 1fg to sometimes 3fg of Hibs and Albs but then i've seen Garbs group do the same, The groups that take time to beat and can go either way are mainly

Garbs l33t setup caster group (Not the CF random grps) for general good skills all round and a sweet class balence
Bulle for general good assist, teamplay and a well blaenced tank setup
IG for pretty much the same reasons as Bulle
BF Well what you can you say played together for ages high rr and general good skills (Only Alb group that can be nasty even with RA's down)
FC when they have all RA's up and Konah's not the MA, Mainly due to them having the best mezzer in Alb (Hotrats) even though he's a whining bitch
VGN can sometimes be nasty with there 16 man FG's
LA On the odd time their comedy mallet heros can be arsed to assist

The above guilds on the whole butcher most Mid groups even though in Mid you supposidly cant lose a fight as a savage grp :/
Most other groups are running crap setups and these are the ones that whine the most

Dont expect your 1 cleric 4 cabbie 3 2h Pally groups to beat Nolby because they wont, Dont expect your rr3 average groups to beat rr7-10 average groups as they wont as RR gives huge advantages in the abilitys you have.

No Mid isnt hard to play, Yes Savages are the leet of all tanks in DAOC but not to the extent as whats said, 2 Savages in a group is not "insta win" it never was and it never will be but i have no sympathy for people with noob group setups that whine that they cant beat Nolby, none at all.

Bring on the Savage nerf imo as the well setup guilds will carry on being a good fight and the noobs will still be wiped in seconds.

 

[Belomar]

Interesting post, Xanatea. To be honest, I don't foresee our best guild group having much of a chance against an NP grp, FotM Savage or otherwise. Give some more causal Mid guild groups to duel instead!

Originally posted by zelur
IMO its them alb/hib whiners who are playing on "n00b mode"!
Midgard is not "easy mode" Midgard is "Fun Mode"!

Oooh! Phixi's tune has changed somewhat after his idol spoke out. It took Xanatea to make it happen, tho.

 

[behatch]

fair fights..rofl...try takeing on the typical 24-7 alb zerg ,that's a challenge.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by behatch
fair fights..rofl...try takeing on the typical 24-7 alb zerg ,that's a challenge.

Shut up, zerger, your guild is infamous for their uber stealth zergs.

 

[Rollie]

What most people here seem to forget is that most of NP/JH are rr8/9/10, when our rr4/5 mid group go up against garbs rr8/9/10 hib groups(decent ones not the random CF ones) we lose nearly all the time, RR counts alot in fights, i dont think using NP/JH is a good example of the random middy group tbh.

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by AbPoon
FC when they have all RA's up and Konah's not the MA

afaik, the few times we've beat u goood i've been ma but whatever

/kiss

 

[Blazor Meneth]

I'm doing a fg rvr week with FoM atm but we lack some experiance in fg vs fg fights but trying it atleast hehe, got ganked pretty hard when we meat fg rr7+ vgn/LA grp setup at breifane border to emain. We got this grp setup:
----------------------------
Healer/pac: Sjuksyster
Healer/mend: Lifv
Healer/random: not same healer here every day so far
Shaman: Balldric
Skald: Bjorne
Warrior: Rangoon or Urme
Zerk: Blazor
Zerk: Blirtax
----------------------------
Dunno if we get ganked becouse of no savages or if we just plain sucks (still first day in the weeked, altho probably the last choice )
But when we go odins at face hibs at hmg it always tend to pop 1fg!! <--yeah 1fg!! stealthers on us. So chanceless there.
And emain was just to zergy allover, mid guildgrps bumped into each other all the time. But good couse then we wiped the zerg (albs)

And xana:

50 Pac Healer 44/31 r8l7 Excalibur
50 Hunter r6l1 Excalibur
50 Mentalist r5l9 Prydwen
50 Hero r5l8 Prydwen
50 Void Eld r4l4 Prydwen
50 SM r4 Camlann
50 Merc r4 Morgan Le Fay -SOLD-

Plays alittle to much ?

 

[Lumikki]

Your post doesn't make any sense Xanatea. Why do you want your own realm to be nerfed and piss everyone off? If you want something good to be done to the game, then wish for a boost for the 2 other realms, not nerf your own, since not everyone in Midgard runs in 24/7 hardcore toned to the max fotm groups.

Thanks

xx

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Lumikki
If you want something good to be done to the game, then wish for a boost for the 2 other realms, not nerf your own

You can't just add things, you have to take stuff away as well. If not, we'd all (even casters) quadhit for 500-1000 in melee, have 10k hitpoints, cast PBAE, and have our own mini-BoFs in 6 months' time.

 

[Jiggs]

one thing i realised from Friar class is that a boost to other classes is a nerf to yours.

same goes for realm balance: boost alb/hib or nerf mid makes no odds.

we'll have to see how this 1.65 goes down in US, maybe thats the answer

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by K0nah
afaik, the few times we've beat u goood i've been ma but whatever

/kiss

Just remembering the time you and your assist team chased me across the MMG wall with me /dance'ing while Sushii and Mumin killed your clerics on the ground :E

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
btw Xeanor: ur success if limited to how good ur bard is at leading ;O

I'm leading (learned from the best ^^)

CC = better if you can focus on other things than leading grp, can only tell from my own experience, and don't say sorc mezz range makes a big difference, because most mezz duels start at lower range than 1500 (nerf emain hills + lag ^^ (or just walk a route where short range from hills will always benefit you...))

(not needed as mid with insta aoe stun)

that is, IMO, which has worked for the groups i've been in and for my mezzing

 

[Bebopbo]

ellos peeps

our hib/pryd rvr guld grp are a PB grp & we have now started alt's on this server in mid & we are starting a mid/PB grp here too

Yup, we could have rolled a FOtM grp wit sav's etc.. but i wanted to try a PB grp on mid as there seems to be far too many sav grps atm

If peeps are getting bored of exc/mid saying it's too easy, what i dont understand is NP came from hib/pryd? If some of you think here is too easy why not go back to hib/pry & have another go there, atm hibs are under-populated as im sure you know & rvr is difficult especially wit "uber" mid grps (MM to name but 1) there seems to be more "uber guild rvr" grps on pryd & im sure if you roll a hib your in for a challenge. I was grpd wit droood last night in our grp (very nice chap/gal btw ) but NP seem to be none existant on hib/pryd anymore ... Please tell me if im wrong but dod most of NP leave hib/pryd because it was "hard mode" ? surely if your getting bored of it becomming to "easy" hib/pryd is the solution with the likes of PE/MM/BO etc.. these are all pretty uber enemy guilds who im sure would put up a fair fight against NP

as i said... just "my" opinion, plz dont "flame" im just curious as to why NP all disappeared from hib/pryd when it seems its hib/pryd who atm need any help it can get

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Just remembering the time you and your assist team chased me across the MMG wall with me /dance'ing while Sushii and Mumin killed your clerics on the ground :E

ahh so i shoulda been killing sushi n mumin instead of u? ok...

i thought u were dancing cos AP was active, u soon stopped dancing when it dropped iirc

 

[AbPoon]

Because

A) Hibs boring
B) The models look stupid
C) I hate xp'ing
D) I really cant be arsed to start from scratch again
E) Random groups are even less skilled on Pryd then on Excal
F) Most the time the RVr zones are dead

Been there done that and the grass is deffo less green

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Bebopbo
If peeps are getting bored of exc/mid saying it's too easy, what i dont understand is NP came from hib/pryd?

They were on mid/exc to start with.

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by K0nah
ahh so i shoulda been killing sushi n mumin instead of u? ok...

i thought u were dancing cos AP was active, u soon stopped dancing when it dropped iirc

Getting your pally to guard would of been a start.....

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by Belomar
Interesting post, Xanatea. To be honest, I don't foresee our best guild group having much of a chance against an NP grp, FotM Savage or otherwise.

Me neither, but FC and BF can. They practice 1 fg and they are good at 1 fg. You practice 2fg and you are bad at 1 fg. Simple as that

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by K0nah
ahh so i shoulda been killing sushi n mumin instead of u? ok...

i thought u were dancing cos AP was active, u soon stopped dancing when it dropped iirc

poon dont have AP :/

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
Me neither, but FC and BF can. They practice 1 fg and they are good at 1 fg. You practice 2fg and you are bad at 1 fg. Simple as that

amen

 

[Aussie-]

only took 4 pages to bring the own ego up again =)

 

[old.XanateA]

Domain: Correct! That would be the no-savage group.

Poon: NP group died to randoms? "k"? give proof!
i know i wasent there when it happened tho! :O

Xeanor: are ur BMs pierce? ;O. And having a BM lead is like fadeh leading in alb.. but there the sorc has a big advantage cuz of bolt range when unsticking to mezz... dunno if ur bard will mezz stuffz
Not us anyways ;O)

 

[Ithurts]

Originally posted by Aussie-
amazing it took you so long to get bored of farming the spanish warderzerg in epic.
I got bored of it after 1week when i played hib/exc

Same here

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
Me neither, but FC and BF can. They practice 1 fg and they are good at 1 fg. You practice 2fg and you are bad at 1 fg. Simple as that

No, we don't 'practice 2fg'. We run as 1fg 90% of the time.

The only difference is our guild is 80% 'casual' players, where FC, BF, NP, JH, etc are 90% 'hardcore' players who RvR for 6 hours a day with basically the same people every time.

That said, there are good and experienced players in the guild, and when we have opportunity to field "our best guild group" we will win vs most opponents. The 'problem' is we don't all play at the same time day in, day out, so obviously we cannot compete with guild groups that do.


But well, if it's an ego trip for you to try to belittle people for not being 'as dedicated to the game' as yourself, then congratulations imo.

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Originally posted by Pin
No, we don't 'practice 2fg'. We run as 1fg 90% of the time.

The only difference is our guild is 80% 'casual' players, where FC, BF, NP, JH, etc are 90% 'hardcore' players who RvR for 6 hours a day with basically the same people every time.

That said, there are good and experienced players in the guild, and when we have opportunity to field "our best guild group" we will win vs most opponents. The 'problem' is we don't all play at the same time day in, day out, so obviously we cannot compete with guild groups that do.


But well, if it's an ego trip for you to try to belittle people for not being 'as dedicated to the game' as yourself, then congratulations imo.

Albions respons to FoM then, we have the same situation.

 

[sauna-]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Okay... I play mid. I play in the best guild.
Im so sick of not being able to loose a FG fight... there is no fucking challenge on excalibur anymore... not when it comes to FG fights. Albs do not make balanced groups with good players... not even guild groups.

Last night i saw the total of 0 alb RvR guilds. I saw one group of LA... but even if they play well they stand a minimal chance of winning vs us even if we play equally good.
Got 100k rp or so in 7-8h RvR... and most of it came from killing mindless Warder zerg albs... how fun is that?!?? ((

So nerf the shit out of savages and remove ASD from healers and the fights might be more challenging.
And ppl get less things to whine on... the amount of mid groups out in emain will decrease... cuz there is not many groups who play good and win because of that and not because of the savages doing lots of dmg.

Am i the only mid who wants the realm to be nerfed abit so winning in RvR is decided on experience, teamwork , skill and high RR and not better classes?

Just leave the savages at home and switch to other tanks, vs. most guildgroups out there you'll still have the best advantage if you have any skill. Using savages is only if you want to be 100% sure to win/can't take a loss, i.e. not looking for an even fight but to farm rp's. Worth a try anyway? . I've dueled alot of zerkers/mercs/warriors/armsman/heroes/bm's with my bm, the only class I can take is 2h armsman so savage is overkill.