Rant Motorway drivers

[Ch3tan]

I really don't see what is wrong with using both lanes until one ends, Tom is correct. What is this obsession with queuing and causing a tailback when there is a free lane available?

Tits!

 

[Job]

You need to think about unnecessarily long, it 's exactly the same amount of cars, if everyone decided to just pull out and wang past to the front the outside lane would be a huge long queue.
Most nice people realise the outside is going nowhere and pull in as soon as they can, my point was certain personality types go straight to the front..ok fine.
Let them in if they then let everyone else do the same and put them to the back.
Fair enough?.

I often let pushy drivers in , then I pull out myself overtake them and push in front of them, you should see the look on their faces.

 

[Access Denied]

This is fairly relevant to this thread.

M1 accident emergency lane blocked - YouTube

That guy is a fucking legend!

 

[Sydrik]

That video is fucking brilliant. The woman in the mini was a bit scary though!

 

[Corran]

Great, you've just extended the length of the queue unnecessarily, it now extends to the previous junction and is blocking traffic from using that junction. Vigilante gimps like you are the cause of traffic jams, not the solution. MERGE IN TURN.

merge in turn... what turn? nice straight road that just blocked off.

It arseholes that try to force their way in right at the last minute and hit people that is the problem. I actually have practically put a teenager into the roadworks before. Closed lane, late at night. Im doing the speed limit, just as im approaching the closed of area they try to fly past me well above the speed limit and think i will hit my breaks and let them in, but nope. Just keep trundling along as I was abiding the law of the road and they left it to the last second to break and ended up hitting a few cones down. (no workers about before you go on about them - and i could see there was none).

The same amount of cars need to get through roadworks. When you getting to within 150yrds you should be already be looking to merge. When you approach 75yrds, if you still flying through without looking to merge you dont deserve to be let in. If you go all the wya to the end I wish no one would give the space to get in and leave them there the rest of the night.

If everyone merges safely in plenty of time the traffic keeps flying, if people start forcng in at last minute accidents happen.... people that fly down the outside to the last minute are thinking of nothing but being impatient. Dont see why everyone that being considerate should suffer at their hands. I have never seen anyone shoot to the end and then patiently merge, they always force in.

 

[Access Denied]

merge in turn... what turn? nice straight road that just blocked off.

It arseholes that try to force their way in right at the last minute and hit people that is the problem. I actually have practically put a teenager into the roadworks before. Closed lane, late at night. Im doing the speed limit, just as im approaching the closed of area they try to fly past me well above the speed limit and think i will hit my breaks and let them in, but nope. Just keep trundling along as I was abiding the law of the road and they left it to the last second to break and ended up hitting a few cones down. (no workers about before you go on about them - and i could see there was none).

The same amount of cars need to get through roadworks. When you getting to within 150yrds you should be already be looking to merge. When you approach 75yrds, if you still flying through without looking to merge you dont deserve to be let in. If you go all the wya to the end I wish no one would give the space to get in and leave them there the rest of the night.

If everyone merges safely in plenty of time the traffic keeps flying, if people start forcng in at last minute accidents happen.... people that fly down the outside to the last minute are thinking of nothing but being impatient. Dont see why everyone that being considerate should suffer at their hands. I have never seen anyone shoot to the end and then patiently merge, they always force in.

QFT! There's a road near to where I used to live that gets very busy during rush hour. There's also a slip road that runs alongside it from one end of the road nearly to the other end. The amount of pricks I've seen driving up that road and forcing their way in at the other end. The roadworks situation is no different, if you drive like a cunt, prepare to be treated like a cunt.

 

[ECA]

Dont see why everyone that being considerate should suffer at their hands. I have never seen anyone shoot to the end and then patiently merge, they always force in.

Usually you have to, because braindead cunts in the other lane don't understand what merge in turn is, why it matters or how they are shitting up the roads with their stupidity and think you're cutting in, and drive up the arse of the person in front so as not to let you turn in naturally.

 

[old.user4556]

A lot of merge-in-turn sections on motorways are slowing down for roadworks which are generally temporary 40 mph (sometimes 50...). You're supposed to use both lanes for the majority of the lead up and .... *shock* .... merge in turn.

I've just been through one tonight and I merged past the 200 yard marker just before the cones (along with numerous other motorists). However, the prickhead behind me actually stopped his car way before the 800 yard countdown and put his indicator on causing a very dangerous obstruction in the overtaking lane..

He probably did it in fear of self righteous "I WON'T LET ANYONE IN" brigade like you lot .

 

[Tom]

You need to think about unnecessarily long, it 's exactly the same amount of cars, if everyone decided to just pull out and wang past to the front the outside lane would be a huge long queue.
Most nice people realise the outside is going nowhere and pull in as soon as they can, my point was certain personality types go straight to the front..ok fine.
Let them in if they then let everyone else do the same and put them to the back.
Fair enough?.

I often let pushy drivers in , then I pull out myself overtake them and push in front of them, you should see the look on their faces.

You shouldn't look at it as a queue, like you'd find in the Post Office. It's a line of traffic attempting to get by an obstruction, and the most efficient way to deal with it is by using all the available road space (so all lanes, right up to the merge point), and everybody at the front taking turns to slot into the same lane.

Of course if you're on the inside lane and actively blocking people from merging, you're making the problem worse. Congratulations.

 

[Calo]

A lot of merge-in-turn sections on motorways are slowing down for roadworks which are generally temporary 40 mph (sometimes 50...). You're supposed to use both lanes for the majority of the lead up and .... *shock* .... merge in turn.

I've just been through one tonight and I merged past the 200 yard marker just before the cones (along with numerous other motorists). However, the prickhead behind me actually stopped his car way before the 800 yard countdown and put his indicator on causing a very dangerous obstruction in the overtaking lane..

He probably did it in fear of self righteous "I WON'T LET ANYONE IN" brigade like you lot .

aye, here in belgium its common sense that you drive till the end of the sideway and then merge 1 by 1, not the first time i saw ppl get out and beat the idiot that thought "lets just stop here 1/5th of the sideway and put my indicator up so that everyone behinds me has to wait!"

 

[Turamber]

The M42 has active lane guidance telling people when they can drive in the hard shoulder, and what the speed limit is. Often in peak times you will be told to stay in lane and not change lane.

Nevertheless people drive on the hard shoulder even when they shouldn't, undertake on it, jump from one lane to the other and speed until they reach the speed cameras, slow, then go again.

Meanwhile if you are driving as instructed you'll have people flashing lights at you and indicating you get the feck out of their way. Do not like that motorway one bit.

 

[Tom]

merge in turn... what turn? nice straight road that just blocked off.

I wonder if you understand that some words in the English language can have more than one meaning.

It arseholes that try to force their way in right at the last minute and hit people that is the problem. I actually have practically put a teenager into the roadworks before. Closed lane, late at night. Im doing the speed limit, just as im approaching the closed of area they try to fly past me well above the speed limit and think i will hit my breaks and let them in, but nope. Just keep trundling along as I was abiding the law of the road and they left it to the last second to break and ended up hitting a few cones down. (no workers about before you go on about them - and i could see there was none).

You saw a hazard approaching, and instead of doing the safe thing, which would have been to back off and allow the idiot to change lane, you chose to place both vehicles in a much more dangerous situation. It was a stupid thing to do, and something you might have regretted had the other driver steered his vehicle into you.

The same amount of cars need to get through roadworks. When you getting to within 150yrds you should be already be looking to merge. When you approach 75yrds, if you still flying through without looking to merge you dont deserve to be let in. If you go all the wya to the end I wish no one would give the space to get in and leave them there the rest of the night.

What's the difference between merging 150 yards away from the cones, or merging at the cones? Apart from the fact that you now have 150 yards of empty road which could be used by other vehicles to reduce the overall length of the queue?

If everyone merges safely in plenty of time the traffic keeps flying, if people start forcng in at last minute accidents happen.... people that fly down the outside to the last minute are thinking of nothing but being impatient. Dont see why everyone that being considerate should suffer at their hands. I have never seen anyone shoot to the end and then patiently merge, they always force in.

Do you know why people have to "force in"? Because the idiots on the inside lane keep blocking them. There's nothing in the Highway Code or Roadcraft (IIRC) which recommends changing lanes unnecessarily.

 

[Raven]

If people bothered to read the electronic signs every few miles they would see that a lane is closed in x miles and start moving over earlier. If its road works its several miles before the lane closes.

I don't let people in either, they should learn to read road signs.

 

[Corran]

Of course if you're on the inside lane and actively blocking people from merging, you're making the problem worse. Congratulations.

Can I get a medal with that congratulations?

 

[Access Denied]

If people bothered to read the electronic signs every few miles they would see that a lane is closed in x miles and start moving over earlier. If its road works its several miles before the lane closes.

I don't let people in either, they should learn to read road signs.

This.

 

[noblok]

If people bothered to read the electronic signs every few miles they would see that a lane is closed in x miles and start moving over earlier.

Why would they have to move over before the lane actually closes, though? Doing so only makes congestion worse. I always thought it was standard practice to use maximum road capacity and merge in turns at the point where one lane closes. (Then again, like Calo, I'm from Belgium.)

 

[Turamber]

Why would they have to move over before the lane actually closes, though? Doing so only makes congestion worse. I always thought it was standard practice to use maximum road capacity and merge in turns at the point where one lane closes. (Then again, like Calo, I'm from Belgium.)

We're English, our culture embraces "the queue". People who jump into the outside lane so as to jump said queue inflame our natural sense of justice. I also tend to ignore people in the outside lane and make 'em wait. Fuck 'em.

 

[Olgaline]

YEs your all leet drivers! it's all the other people that suck

 

[Ch3tan]

If people bothered to read the electronic signs every few miles they would see that a lane is closed in x miles and start moving over earlier. If its road works its several miles before the lane closes.

I don't let people in either, they should learn to read road signs.

This.

Not this at all, use the available road space. You lot are retarded drivers. Fucking hell, British must queue mentality gone crazy.

People forcing their way in are dangerous, but quite often they do this because of idiots who are upset they've queued and the other person hasn't, and don't let people merge.

 

[GimmlyThe3rd]

Not this at all, use the available road space. You lot are retarded drivers. Fucking hell, British must queue mentality gone crazy.

People forcing their way in are dangerous, but quite often they do this because of idiots who are upset they've queued and the other person hasn't, and don't let people merge.

Haven't you been driving only a year? 1 year is still the learning period of driving a car.

You should not be telling people with 5-20 years experience how they should be driving.

 

[MYstIC G]

That's pretty harsh Gimmly, especially since I've been in Chet's car.

Anyway, I agree that it is merge in turn but generally that doesn't happen because people queue jump and do so deliberately because they have a "me first" mentality which will naturally be met every so often with a "no I don't think so" response.

The M1 video sums that up perfectly, people think that them getting to the next junction so they can get home for tea is more important than a life saving ambulance. They never stop to think that maybe the next junction is blocked off because the emergency services need to use it to get to the accidents because of morons like them.

 

[Ch3tan]

Haven't you been driving only a year? 1 year is still the learning period of driving a car.

You should not be telling people with 5-20 years experience how they should be driving.

Hah, and I'm glad I haven't learned the bad habit's this lot talk about. Common sense seems to go out the window when people are on the road.

 

[Turamber]

I've been driving 20 odd years and I have lost track of the number of people who will jump into an outside lane, speed past a queue, and jump in at the front. The outside lane is as much a lane as any other lane, let them queue like everyone else. It is also not uncommon to see those individuals cut across lanes to leave the motorway. Rank bad driving.

 

[Ch3tan]

I've been driving 20 odd years and I have lost track of the number of people who will jump into an outside lane, speed past a queue, and jump in at the front. The outside lane is as much a lane as any other lane, let them queue like everyone else. It is also not uncommon to see those individuals cut across lanes to leave the motorway. Rank bad driving.

I've highlighted the only relevant part of your post for you. Use the space.

 

[noblok]

We're English, our culture embraces "the queue". People who jump into the outside lane so as to jump said queue inflame our natural sense of justice. I also tend to ignore people in the outside lane and make 'em wait. Fuck 'em.

But if everyone uses the full lane capacity and merges in turn at the end it becomes impossible to jump the queue. By merging early you're just allowing the person behind you to jump places and making the person who lets you merge lose places.

It just doesn't make sense not use a perfectly fine lane. All it does is make the queue needlessly long.

 

[Turamber]

Use the space.

I do, I let them queue there when they attempt to queue jump.

 

[Ch3tan]

It's not queue jumping. It's your mentality that is at fault here.

 

[Turamber]

It's not queue jumping. It's your mentality that is at fault here.

No. I see it all the time ... people will put the pedal to the metal to jump a few cars ahead of the traffic. If they want to be in the lane that is blocked they can be my guest.

 

[Corran]

It's not queue jumping. It's your mentality that is at fault here.

and what about the people that are in the open lane, pull out to try jump 3 cars forward and then try push way back in? that totally fine I take it? because it happens all the time.

 

[Ch3tan]

If there is space in the other lane, use it and merge where the lane closes, not before.

I tend to see people get peeved because they didn't think of using the other lane, and they are upset someone has had a better idea than them.

Your example above is just an aggressive driver, I'm not talking about that at all. It's this ridiculous idea that everyone must queue when there is a clear lane, and we should all have been taught how to merge...