MOC3 and lifetap - is it a joke?

[>.< Pooned]

Well then you just play wrong? Just position yourself better, ill let you figure out the rest for yourself..

ps! I wouldnt be calling him a gimp just cause he used his abilities, you died to them.. til you outsmart him.. your the biggest gimp in this thread.

maybe listen to tha man



(and maybe the only best ever duel i had with him as 44 mind sorc ) same RA to whine

 

[Asha]

I don't understand why you didn't just run away on sos and come back when the pet is down, then he has no moc, no mlvl 9 pet?
Just cause you lose doesn't make the other person op. Shocking, but true !

 

[atos]

everyone cant outrun a caster. =(

 

[>.< Pooned]

everyone cant outrun a caster. =(

everyone no but if bard healing the caster while the enemy moc killing him could be quite good

 

[atos]

No way a bard can outheal that damage.

 

[Rushie]

cant believe no ones mentioned "run through" abuse as a tactic against moc3 lifetappers, if u time ur run throughs properly then it gets quite hard to land spells. ppl use it against me all the time (and have done for years) and some ppl are more effective at it than others (ie for some it works great - usually if used with zou/dex debuffs - and for others they just fail bigtime with timing).

 

[>.< Pooned]

No way a bard can outheal that damage.

wp3 mom2 acuity 2 +75% of normal dmg by moc

hmm thats like 100 dmg ? if the bard heal 200? or 250 dunno

 

[Ilur-OOM]

well someone got owned and that's that...

if you were playing a bard and a bainshee you should have won from a solo sorc... he mocs you SoS and run away... you are faster and can get away preety easy, then come back after moc wears out and own him...

then again i think its not a matter of moc being op or the lack of skills of aiava and horner but the lack of skill of who was playing in a duo that has all the tools to excape and yet dies to a solo sorc...

maybe replace the classes? maybe replace the players? you choose...

Have fun mate and next time you see a caster moc you dont know if its 1 2 or 3 so hit sos run away and come back in 30 secs... all you have to do...

 

[Ilur-OOM]

wp3 mom2 acuity 2 +75% of normal dmg by moc

hmm thats like 100 dmg ? if the bard heal 200? or 250 dunno

hmmm sugest you get a new calculator yours isnt working properly!

 

[>.< Pooned]

hmmm sugest you get a new calculator yours isnt working properly!

How rude.......

 

[Muylaetrix]

cant believe no ones mentioned "run through" abuse as a tactic against moc3 lifetappers, if u time ur run throughs properly then it gets quite hard to land spells. ppl use it against me all the time (and have done for years) and some ppl are more effective at it than others (ie for some it works great - usually if used with zou/dex debuffs - and for others they just fail bigtime with timing).

run through doesn`t work vs a caster at 1000 range.

 

[Bugz]

wp3 mom2 acuity 2 +75% of normal dmg by moc

hmm thats like 100 dmg ? if the bard heal 200? or 250 dunno

LMAO.

Clueless.

I heal for 400 - still cant outheal a moc3 sorc lifetapping if resists arent up.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

How rude.......

not rude mate... come on do you actually beleive in that?

 

[>.< Pooned]

LMAO.

Clueless.

I heal for 400 - still cant outheal a moc3 sorc lifetapping if resists arent up.

if u heal for 400 then ur just pathetic cause i cant do over 500 dmg without a critical and i didnt mention that u didnt heal in that fight but keep mezzing dding the sorc xD

also zefyr in second fight from 2k range and for 2 sec duration of transporting the sorc isnt the best zefyr use.....

btw Phaseshift is ur friend take ur drum play endurance and sprint sprint sprint ^^

 

[Bugz]

if u heal for 400 then ur just pathetic cause i cant do over 500 dmg without a critical and i didnt mention that u didnt heal in that fight but keep mezzing dding the sorc xD

Here's where you show how clueless you are.

a) sorc has 380+ dex generally and thus casts extremely fast.
b) i dont heal as fast as tht and dex is roughly 330-340.
c) If i think your who you say you are, I had popped moc only to find no confuse on qbar /twaks self - in the heat of ze fight i forgot to shift + right click it.
d) If you were the other sorc on <10% before he moc'd, it was a last effort to kill you quickly.
e) You obviously, evne at rr8-9-10 (rr's of sorcs i fought earlier), have no idea about how differently bard and sorc casting speeds are for heal and lifetap.

Research is a virtue my friend.

 

[eggy]

You hit around the 350-400 mark with normal capped body resists without criticals. Don't forget to get the Purge2 and MOC3 you're already looking at 5l5; most go for dex3 next before getting passives, including mof2 for level 50 AE mez.

I'm MoC3, Purge3, Dex3, MoF2, WP2, MOM1 at RR9 - only just starting to get the damage RAs. Of course, some higher RR sorcs only get purge2 (know a few with 1!) and boost it up to WP3 MOM3, but Purge is too valuable if you ask me.

 

[>.< Pooned]

Here's where you show how clueless you are.

a) sorc has 380+ dex generally and thus casts extremely fast.
b) i dont heal as fast as tht and dex is roughly 330-340.
c) If i think your who you say you are, I had popped moc only to find no confuse on qbar /twaks self - in the heat of ze fight i forgot to shift + right click it.
d) If you were the other sorc on <10% before he moc'd, it was a last effort to kill you quickly.
e) You obviously, evne at rr8-9-10 (rr's of sorcs i fought earlier), have no idea about how differently bard and sorc casting speeds are for heal and lifetap.

Research is a virtue my friend.

ok im clueless but how clueless can u be to attack rr9ish sorcs? even if u instead of not healing and playing gennerally good playing that way?

 

[ebenezer]

as some say in this tread you cant compete very good versus certain classes and specs, The game just isnt designed for that. And ofc for some people that likes to solo with either caster or tanks/stealthers they get frustrated when they just cant win versus some. Tough luck, but you have to be aware of it when you embark on soloing in daoc. I encounter things with hero i cant possibly beat with the sepc ras i have, what i can do its respec or go a bout it by choosing another alt i just gotta be satisfied with that i do good over all and thats that
over and out..

 

[Rushie]

run through doesn`t work vs a caster at 1000 range.

why 1000 range?

u should be playing the range game on a caster and keeping as big a distance between u and ur enemy, he has same nuke range as u so if he nukes u 1st then u got time to run out of range and force him into chasing and this is where ppl usually get sloppy. if u apply this to someone who is moccing then it just means ur gonna be 'extending' the fight for 30 secs till his moc runs out then hit face and do whatever it is the caster ur playing does best.

 

[Bugz]

ok im clueless but how clueless can u be to attack rr9ish sorcs? even if u instead of not healing and playing gennerally good playing that way?

If you checked the albions in HW, only sorcs/cabalists and the such were out.

If i didn't go for a class that can moc3 lt, I wouldn't have had anything to go for.

 

[Konah]

nerf albion.

 

[Tosi]

So much love in this thread!
Bugz, i'll make you guide how to kill solo sorc if you pay me enough ;P

 

[pip]

Don't need to pay him just roll a wl j/d

 

[Huntingtons]

Stun is purgeable, blockable via. spells and is not as gd when you take into account resists etc.

get vamp resist buff then and stuff the qq

/edit granted that you play your vamp

 

[Bugz]

So much love in this thread!
Bugz, i'll make you guide how to kill solo sorc if you pay me enough ;P

No need mate.

Killed you and your friend when you was camping mid dock

edit - i think

 

[Huntingtons]

Again, not really, seing as it (30 point RA, 60 if including purge3) can be out-done by Nearsight (free in main eld specline, warlock, RM), Stun (free for all hib casters, healer), ML1 banelord (which most light tanks have), higher damage moc3+lifetap from SM etc.

Against a bard you might consider it "OP", but then...you're a bard.

only sm, i will bet you any other nuking class wont beat moc3 duel with a sorc coz of lajftap... (which i think you mentioned earlier that higher dd dmg moc3 caster could counter them)

/edit

but bugz isnt really discussing, he's just whining. everytime one brings a valid argument up he just says k, but moc3 lajftap still OP LOLS!

 

[Commandment]

moc is nearly the main reason for rolling a life tap class

maybe when your high body cabalist or SM? im in the better part of rr6 on sorc atm, and only got moc1 for demezzing.... its alot easier to position your self better and spend ur "moc points" on passives like MoM wp dex / acuity. but if it is the main reason for rolling a life tap class, why has urs not got it ? :O

 

[Puppet]

So in al cases the Sorc has used purge and any stun = death - ie any Hib caster

you mean the sorc is a gimp for purging anything else then stun ? Why should he purge mezz from an eldritch/menta if he knows the stun will come soon ?

Sorcs should always win fights versus Mentalists, Chanters, Bainshees and Animists, simply because of superiour range on the mezz and the pet on the sorc.

only Hib-caster who can provide a serious thread to a sorc is the eldritch, if any of the others win, its because of getting jumped as sorc, which you could claim as a lack of skill in a 1vs1.

If you play by the book as sorc, you see an enchanter approaching, you mezz him from range, mezz his pet aswell, then sick your pet on him and nuke him down. Even if he manages to QC-stun you, your pet will keep interrupting him. If he purges the mezz, you got the option of kiting till the pet is on him or anything.

 

[Huntingtons]

maybe when your high body cabalist or SM? im in the better part of rr6 on sorc atm, and only got moc1 for demezzing.... its alot easier to position your self better and spend ur "moc points" on passives like MoM wp dex / acuity. but if it is the main reason for rolling a life tap class, why has urs not got it ? :O

you dont need moc to kill expers !

 

[Commandment]

you dont need moc to kill expers !

fo ardd, ive been leaving them alone for a while now come alb!