MOC3 and lifetap - is it a joke?

brad

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Find being Fz'ed is lame while still being nuked by a bainshee, but o well it's an op ability in some situations deal with it bugz.

Why not use FZ when he moc's? should be getting used to farming solo'ers by now when at drop of.:) Wouldn't of thought FZ would be hard to land on a still target.

And also generally people don't look at their dmg when people are fighting, why not hit phase shift if your being nuked? you got a duo partner with you to take him down.
 

Bugz

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brad said:
Find being Fz'ed is lame while still being nuked by a bainshee, but o well it's an op ability in some situations deal with it bugz.

I have to fz you cause your a fuckin bitch to keel :(

edit - made 30-40k farming you mids at drop offs. when will u learn :p
 
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just run through until the moc is over



everytime i've been ran through on sm i've ALWAYS got enough lifetaps off during moc to guaratee victory ^^
 

brad

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Bugz said:
I have to fz you cause your a fuckin bitch to keel :(

edit - made 30-40k farming you mids at drop offs. when will u learn :p

Atleast fecking leave me in the first place then lol.

I saw you, and tried to hide, and was doing /no /no /slap. But still you came.

I will Remember that!
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
You know you don't have to stand still when someone MoC3 lifetaps you down. FZ, stun it or run away...

Haha, yeah run away when someone lifetaps you, I would guess he will be happy for sure then ;D
 

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Bugz said:
edit - made 30-40k farming you mids at drop offs. when will u learn :p
ITS ALL ABOUT ARPEE'S MEJTS!

anyway, puppet. dont think anyone on inc thinks, OH YES! i got 5 options lemme decide what to do etc etc. you can easily sit back in your chair and type what you did, but on inc its a whole different story. not saying you wouldnt do some of it but just saying its so easy to act wise when you're not in the seat.
 

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xGenocidex said:
everytime i've been ran through on sm i've ALWAYS got enough lifetaps off during moc to guaratee victory ^^
then the they arent very good then :)
 

Elkie

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Stallion said:
Well then you just play wrong? Just position yourself better, ill let you figure out the rest for yourself.. :(

ps! I wouldnt be calling him a gimp just cause he used his abilities, you died to them.. til you outsmart him.. your the biggest gimp in this thread.

stop bullying staj hes only a kid:<
 

censi

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the sorc is a one man fucking army toon.

its got everything.

leet rr5 (top5 OP rr5)
moc + lifetap (combine with toa cast speed and lifetap dynamics, its comically OP)
ML9 buffed yellow con pets (templers, stun chickens whatever, pet that melees for 300-600 damage ((ish)) one locked you are fucked mage can just run off the other way)
Primary mess (qc, bolt range)
Secondary form of CC for when mezz gets purges. (root).

basically its got everything and with purge 3 and moc3 u will pretty much win 95% of 1v1's just from those 2 abilities.
 

Bugz

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11 pages - pwned.

Oh ye, elkie, hows your hacked account coming along? K.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
limit ml9 pets to +10 levels in rvr ?
I don't think it's just ml9 that's the problem, as even without it sm pets intercept like there's no fucking tomorrow x<
pip said:
lol great screw the warlock more lol:twak:
I can only wish :>
>.< Pooned said:
everyone no but if bard healing the caster while the enemy moc killing him could be quite good :p
Why not mez him instead? That'd fuck his moc right up xD
>.< Pooned said:
How rude.......
Nuking for 100 dmg does seem a 'little' off :p 75% of my sorc's dmg would be 300ish, at least.
eggy said:
You hit around the 350-400 mark with normal capped body resists without criticals. Don't forget to get the Purge2 and MOC3 you're already looking at 5l5; most go for dex3 next before getting passives, including mof2 for level 50 AE mez.

I'm MoC3, Purge3, Dex3, MoF2, WP2, MOM1 at RR9 - only just starting to get the damage RAs. Of course, some higher RR sorcs only get purge2 (know a few with 1!) and boost it up to WP3 MOM3, but Purge is too valuable if you ask me.
No purge/moc/mof here, does that mean I'm a bit off ra-wise? :<

saitoh said:
yes nerf those bstd sorcs !
Not yet :x
 

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Tbh let's make a deal. Animists get a lvl 50 lifetap and a dex boost of about 15pts. Then we wait about 3 months and the QQ from other sides will be huge :p

Besides that, I love playing my animist. One of the most funny classes I've played and a really good one aswell, was worth the hassle of ToA'ing that toon =) Don't have MoC yet and don't plan on taking it so quick, cause loosing out on WP and aug dex. is not good =)
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but moc does not affect amount of life returned from lifetap. So moc 1 is enough to make you stay alive basically, and lets you get more passives instead. Not really sure if moc 3 is worth it because of that little "feature".
 

Bistrup666

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I still say what I've been saying for a long time.

LT is much more powerfull than nukes especially since they don't delve much lower, therefore LT should be on slowest castspeed like 3,2 or so, and not fastest.
 

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Bump more whine plzzz .............


btw bugz gonna rvr this morning wanna come with ur duo? :) /kiss /hug /pond
 

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nerf moc, nerf wp, cap all spells at 1.5s, nerf debuffs to 10/20/30%, nerf ml9 to half the strength it is atm and last but not least FOR FUCKSAKE FIX SM PETS KTHX.

ty, that is all.
 

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Konah said:
nerf moc, nerf wp, cap all spells at 1.5s, nerf debuffs to 10/20/30%, nerf ml9 to half the strength it is atm and last but not least FOR FUCKSAKE FIX SM PETS KTHX.

ty, that is all.

in that case, remove the speed 3 component from charge, reduce banelord range to 350 units, change tendrils during stun immunity, and lower malice procrate!

...or just play as it is, pretty nice in terms of balance atm.
 

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Konah said:
nerf moc, nerf wp, cap all spells at 1.5s, nerf debuffs to 10/20/30%, nerf ml9 to half the strength it is atm and last but not least FOR FUCKSAKE FIX SM PETS KTHX.

ty, that is all.

SM pets are bad. Strafing as a SM or BD is even worse.
 

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Vodkafairy said:
remove the speed 3 component from charge

most tanks only use it for running away, theres a reason for that.
 

duact

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real über sorcs only have damageRA's and purge1 anyway, rest r gimps
 

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duact said:
real über sorcs only have damageRA's and purge1 anyway, rest r gimps

Riiight. So when you get instamezzed over a hill, the inability to purge and demez your group without being interrupted is for the "lame" is it?
 

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eggy said:
Riiight. So when you get instamezzed over a hill, the inability to purge and demez your group without being interrupted is for the "lame" is it?

sorcs don't group, they're overpowered one man armies, and should be nerfed to hell for it! :twak:





..or there could be a grouping perspective, but that is not something we care to consider in this thread, the discussion is simply the overpoweredness of soloing casters w/ moc+lifetap.
 

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>.< Pooned said:
Bump more whine plzzz .............


btw bugz gonna rvr this morning wanna come with ur duo? :) /kiss /hug /pond

32k made this morning.

Ta.

:m00:
 

krall

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Manisch Depressiv said:
SM pets are bad. Strafing as a SM or BD is even worse.

So one should face the nasty rr1o+ merc/arms ect, and let them melee u down? LT dont do that much dam vs. IP2 and AoM 4+ - specialy if u are 38/38 - and gimped like me. Or maybe face MoC sorc ect...just to get nuked to oblivion?:fluffle:
 

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hathor said:
you are to funny, if you lose you whine, but if you make rp's you smile grow up m8 bah:puke:

Lol.

I lose many times in a day. I have whined once in what... 3-4 years? so get a clue ^^

Also, I was simply replying to the rr9 sorc, who seems to think he can moc3 me down with his uber skills but didn't actually (some rr3 moc'd me down tho - 250-300 damage a lifetap still Oo).

Anywayz, what a lot of you are missing in this thread and i mean ALOT, is it isn't down to how I play, how someone else plays or anything like that but rather the idea of 400-600 lifetap nukes healing for 300-450 each cast within 1-1.5 seconds with little chance of being interrupted.

But carry on, plz do.
 

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