Its not my fault im fat

[OblongChicken]

Hmm, good point. If I recall correctly, all the nudey paintings you see in art gallerys feature fairly plump women. Despite what you might think, OblongChicken, Beauty is an entirely subjective thing.

Yeah, i should've prefaced my post with 'IMO'. But it was a damn good O. Seriously now, who wants to watch fat-people porn?

You can get attractive but chubby girls though, grant you that. Thing is, they're hot in spite of their weight, usually. Waifs are unappealing also.

Oh and Catsby, thanks for the condescending post. I would correct you on certain points, but your third person idiom complicates and puts me off making the effort.

 

[TdC]

oh god I mistyped it I'm not my usual spangley self today, don't hate me for it. I need love!!

 

[nath]

Seriously now, who wants to watch fat-people porn?

There's actually a fairly large market for that sort of porn.

 

[OblongChicken]

There's actually a fairly large market for that sort of porn.

Yeah, for whacked out sickos. My mate has midget and amputee porn on his computer. For 'comedy value' he says.

 

[TdC]

My mate has midget and amputee porn on his computer.

your fat mate? you're not talking about yourself when you say nasty things about "your mate" are you? Wij does that all the time you know. Trem too








soz, I'm not being serious

 

[nath]

Yeah, for whacked out sickos.

I give up trying to discuss this reasonably with you. You're a fucking grade A moron.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

In fairness, just cause you don't like fat porn that doesn't make it wrong.

Although, watching mounds of pulsating, rippling flesh doesn't exactly do it for me..

 

[nath]

Although, watching mounds of pulsating, rippling flesh doesn't exactly do it for me..

It doesn't do a whole lot for me either - however, neither do Britney Spears or Christina Aguleira (or however you spell her name). That doesn't mean the only people who do find them attractive are whacked out sickos.

 

[OblongChicken]

It doesn't do a whole lot for me either - however, neither do Britney Spears or Christina Aguleira (or however you spell her name). That doesn't mean the only people who do find them attractive are whacked out sickos.

Geez nath, clam down dear.

I've never said beauty isn't in the eye of the holder or that it's wrong to find fat people attractive. What i will say that it's uncommon. Of course, we haven't really distinguished between degrees of fatness, from chubby to dangerously obese. Obese is minging to look at (in terms of attractiveness); you apparently don't agree, okay. I'm not a fan of Britney or Christina either (Portman is the one). But i wonder, how many people reading this thread are actually saying to themselves 'hmm, i find obese people perfectly attractive to the eye'. Saying that there's quite a demand for fat-people porn doesn't really seem very compelling evidence that lots of people must find fatness attractive. I would even argue that as subjective as beauty is, it isn't just an arbitrary judgement that people make...

Some people regulate their thinking to ridiculous degrees.

 

[Will]

Conversion between nath and Oblong.

OC : No one likes fat person porn, its just sick.

nath : I don't, but the number of websites catering to it suggest someone likes it.

OC : Thats just some sickos, they don't count.

Its a pointless conversion to get into tbh. After page one of a thread, no one is listening to anyone else any more, they've got fixed opinions, and just ignore anything. Just like this example.

 

[nath]

Hence the following.

I give up trying to discuss this reasonably with you. You're a fucking grade A moron.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

Its a pointless conversion to get into tbh. After page one of a thread, no one is listening to anyone else any more, they've got fixed opinions, and just ignore anything. Just like this example.

A good thread none the less

 

[OblongChicken]

You know, the 'whacked out sickos' comment was in jest. Wish i hadn't said it now, didn't mean to kill the conversation...

I still think there's some mileage left.

Obese people are minging to look at. Discuss.

 

[Pfy]

Each to their own is the underlying tone of this thread.

I know lots of fat people and it isn't like it's going to stop me liking them, even if they sweat too much, smell and have left over food in between their chins. I just hate the way people blame it on (as mentioned many a time in this thread) 'Big Bones', 'Slow Metabolism', 'McDonalds'.

Of course the above is all my most humble opinion and I don't particularly care what insults I'll no doubt be flamed with. I'm pretty much just here to play 'Spot the Fatty'.

 

[maxi]

just out of curiosity how many people know a fat person who says "i cant help it" or "big is beautiful"

the second example isn't all that uncommon...self justification...everyone does it. Either that or they believe what they say.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

the second example isn't all that uncommon...self justification...everyone does it. Either that or they believe what they say

Well there is another poit that hasn't been discussed yet. What about fat people that claim to be happy with their weight? Are they lying to everyone and themselves?

 

[Pfy]

Well there is another poit that hasn't been discussed yet. What about fat people that claim to be happy with their weight? Are they lying to everyone and themselves?

I'm guessing nath's fat. So, nath, are you?

That aside. I'd say that generally they weren't, however that's obviously just pure speculation on my behalf.

My old man's a fatty and he always says it doesn't bother him. Oh and of course, the diet that he's on is just purely for health reasons ... :/

 

[OblongChicken]

I know lots of fat people and it isn't like it's going to stop me liking them

I just hate all fat people ever.

No that isn't true. Christ, this thread has never been about whether fatness is an issue when liking people. As cringeworthy as it is to say, i have plenty of fat friends. Someone who didn't would be a statistical anomaly in this day and age, don't you know. I just think fatness is aesthetically unappealing, and there is a reason for this, whether it's because the media ingrains our notions of beauty into us from an early age or from some other sociological reason. That'd be a good discussion, if anyone wants to have it.

 

[maxi]

Well there is another poit that hasn't been discussed yet. What about fat people that claim to be happy with their weight? Are they lying to everyone and themselves?

isnt that what i just suggested? The answers are "no, they are happy" and "yes they are, how can they be happy looking like that?" Although it's a pointless question really.

I'd still like to know if anyone knows people who moan about being fat and yet do very little about it. Cos i don't know any fat people like that, they're just fat, they don't grumble.

 

[Pfy]

I just hate all fat people ever.

No that isn't true. Christ, this thread has never been about whether fatness is an issue when liking people. As cringeworthy as it is to say, i have plenty of fat friends. Someone who didn't would be a statistical anomaly in this day and age, don't you know. I just think fatness is aesthetically unappealing, and there is a reason for this, whether it's because the media ingrains our notions of beauty into us from an early age or from some other sociological reason. That'd be a good discussion, if anyone wants to have it.

With that you also have the question of 'What is a fatty?' Someone that has their own gravitational pull? Or someone that's just 'larger that society dictates to be normal'?

Oh and in answer to you're question. I'd say that what people view as attractive/repulsive is both a mixture of personal preference and media/societys influence. That said, what dictates our personal preference?

 

[OblongChicken]

I mentioned my mate example of a fat guy who moans about it way back in the thread.

I also doubt that anyone is truly happy at being fat. Those who claim to be i suspect would have 'being slim and toned' as one of their three wishes if they ever met a genie.



Man, i need to close this browser and do some work.

 

[OblongChicken]

With that you also have the question of 'What is a fatty?' Someone that has their own gravitational pull? Or someone that's just 'larger that society dictates to be normal'?

Well yeah, degrees of fatness is a big source of equivocation here. I would say you get chubby, fat and obese. And it's different for girls than boys, cos a bit of weight on a girl gives her shape, whereas with a boy it just gives him boobs (i should know). I wouldn't find a girl who was 'fat' in this sense attractive, i don't think. Chubby can work. Obese, no way. And, bearing all this talk of subjective tastes in mind, who doesn't find obese people unattractive? I would think most people do, even if nath is trying to deny it, and that gives my position quite a lot of weight, i reckon. Pardon the pun, n'all.

Oh and in answer to you're question. I'd say that what people view as attractive/repulsive is both a mixture of personal preference and media/societys influence. That said, what dictates our personal preference?

The last question is the key there, and i'd be inclined to answer it with 'media/society' in your words, which means personal preference becomes the same thing. But i'm not particularly informed on sociology (or anthropology?) so what do i know.

Oh, and my tetris powers own your hexxagon powers.

 

[Will]

I saw a program on TV about fat men. There were two main stories. There was a Yorkshire man who stayed in his (deceased) mother's house, keeping it like a shrine to her. He was, to be honest, barking. There was also a Brummie, who was very happy with his weight. His doctor had ordered him to lose weight, and he didn't want to. He enjoyed drinking 20 pints, eating 2 curries, and being the life and soul of the party. They interviewed all his friends, and they said they loved him not because he was fat, but because of his outgoing personality etc. These two met up, and the Brummie was obviously really shaken up by the housebound Yorkshireman.

I'm not sure of my point...people can be happy with their weight without conforming to the media image of beautiful. And most anoexics are thin, but they look in a mirror and all they see is a fat person. Things are like, fucked up.

 

[Pfy]

Oh, and my tetris powers own your hexxagon powers.

Lies! My score is the highest you can get in Hexathingy :/

However, back on topic, google has the answer to the weight problem!

 

[maxi]

. I just think fatness is aesthetically unappealing, and there is a reason for this, whether it's because the media ingrains our notions of beauty into us from an early age or from some other sociological reason. That'd be a good discussion, if anyone wants to have it.

This is what i was trying to provoke when i asked where you rant came from. I wasn't suggesting that you're a Grade A Fattist. Not every racist wants to go and kill a Black/Jew/English/American. Not every fat person is obese. Etc etc.

 

[OblongChicken]

This is what i was trying to provoke when i asked where you rant came from. I wasn't suggesting that you're a Grade A Fattist. Not every racist wants to go and kill a Black/Jew/English/American. Not every fat person is obese. Etc etc.

I'm still not entirely sure i understand what you're getting at...

As for why i find fatness unattractive, i couldn't really say. Maybe it is just arbitrary without foundation in decent reasons. On the other hand, i think fatness is associated with ill-health, lack of fitness, vitality, physical capability and other such desirable traits. Not sure if that explains why i find it visually unappealing, though.

I think i am being controversial in this thread, but i also think most people share my position, underneath all the regulated thinking.

 

[nath]

Ahh yes, regulated thinking. That's the problem. Hey, since we're all sharing - I hate black people. It's just because it's not PC to do so that I don't voice my opinion more often.


Retard.

 

[OblongChicken]

Yes, this issue is entirely analgous to racism....

Glad to see you're still on top of the issue, nath.

 

[nath]

No, you're completely right. What makes it different is that black people can't choose not to be black. If they could *then* it would be ok to hate them.

 

[OblongChicken]

If the black person is fat....