Its not my fault im fat

[nath]

Ooo, then it's a double whammy of hate. A party of hate and everyone's invited!

 

[Catsby]

Catsby is reminded of that picture so often displayed in threads such as there, where the written text says something along the lines of "Arguing over internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard."



On this note, Catsby would like to say Shittle.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

If the black person is fat....

I must learn where the line is.

 

[Will]

Yes, I edited the last post. Think before you hit reply. Thank you.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

Yes, I edited the last post. Think before you hit reply. Thank you.

I wasn't being serious in that reply, but i can see how you think i would be

I'll use [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] next time.

 

[Will]

If I thought you were being serious, you wouldn't be posting.

nath was obviously being sarcastic, whilst your post could have been misread. No harm done, etc.

 

[OblongChicken]

Catsby is reminded of that picture so often displayed in threads such as there, where the written text says something along the lines of "Arguing over internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard."



On this note, Catsby would like to say Shittle.

Actually, Catsby my friend, this was quite a productive and rational debate until nath failed to resist his knee-jerk urges and started throwing the invective around. It was pretty much poisoned from then on.

And i don't really get the logic of that particular phrase you quoted. The internet is the best place to argue. You don't antagonise your friends or people you have to deal with, you get time to say what you want to say without interruption and you can actually take time to think about what you want to say. Everyone's a winner. Apart from childish people.

 

[nath]

You effectively say fat people disgust you and subsequently I call you a ****. My knee was completely stationary while coming to this conclusion.

 

[Catsby]

Everyone's a winner. Apart from childish people.

Catsby couldn't agree more. But Catsby suspects that the point has been missed.

 

[Jupitus]

Catsby couldn't agree more. But Catsby suspects that the point has been missed.

Meanwhile, Jupitus appreciates that Catsby carefully avoided posting an image which Jupitus has, on previous occasions, had cause to remove from hereabouts.

 

[OblongChicken]

Dont' think i've used the word 'disgust' in this entire thread.

nath. Hardly anyone likes the thought of two fat people going at it. You're just being obtuse if you disagree. Fat people would rather be slim if they had the choice. This is because being fat is fundamentally undesirable. I don't know whether this is because of some societal reason or some objective reason, but it is the case, and you should permit yourself to realise this. I'm really not saying anything that controversial, even if people like you would prefer the plastic truth that doesn't hurt anyone's feelings to just what is the case.

 

[throdgrain]

What you are approaching here chaps is what I used to call the Barrysworld Moral High ground, though obviously transferred here
However I think you are probably better equipped to deal with it than I am Oblong, so I'll leave you to it

 

[Jupitus]

However I think you are probably better equipped to deal with it than I am Oblong, so I'll leave you to it

Stay down here in the gutter with me, Throddy

 

[nath]

OblongChicken. You're a dick, I don't say this because I feel you're being politically incorrect, I say it because you're dense and phallus like. So society leads us to believe that being fat is unattractive and there are a number of factors that make being overweight an undesirable thing. I have a particularly racist uncle who claimed that genetically speaking, black people were of lower stock. If it were socially acceptable to dislike black people (like it was not so long ago) would it be OK to hate them too? Heck, you could even try and get some scientific evidence to back up why being black is a bad thing. You could throw in a few randomly generated facts such as "no black person really *wants* to be black, that's absurd".

I don't understand why you feel that these two things are so easily seperatable, like racism - oo that's really bad. Disliking fatness, well that's ok because vogue and maxim say it is. Get a clue.

 

[Will]

What is winding people up (not just nath), is that you can't see that some people are happy with their weight, even if it is what you would regard as fat. And there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[throdgrain]

But its his opnion whether or not he likes the look of it Will, surely ?

 

[Will]

His opinion is that fat people are ugly. That can't be changed. They just don't float his boat.

He believes that all fat people want to be thin. That is an incorrect fact.

 

[nath]

But no one is saying he should find fat people attractive. However A) he doesn't seem to think anyone but weirdos would, and B) fatness seems to actively irritate him. No one is the thought police here, his opinions can be whatever they like - I'm just making the obvious comparison to racism. If someone came on here and said "I really don't like black people, they're pretty unpleasant" I imagine there'd be plenty angry freddies ready to abuse/insult said person.

 

[OblongChicken]

What is winding people up (not just nath), is that you can't see that some people are happy with their weight, even if it is what you would regard as fat. And there is nothing wrong with that.

Good for them. I think people are misrepresenting my opinion. I don't dislike fat people. As this thread was initially about, i have no sympathy for fat people who moan about being fat. Doesn't mean this affects my opinion of them (although i might think they're annoyingly whiny). As for fatness itself, i think it is undesirable and unappealing. That really isn't a controversial, racist or anti-semetic thing to say. People can be fat and happy with it, great, i don't care, but do you really think these people would say no if some magical genie said they could turn them into slim and fit people, no strings attached?

I've stated many times i don't think there's anything 'wrong' with being fat, that i don't dislike fat people for being fat and so on. I really think people are getting the wrong end of the stick.

As for nath...

If it were socially acceptable to dislike black people (like it was not so long ago) would it be OK to hate them too? Heck, you could even try and get some scientific evidence to back up why being black is a bad thing. You could throw in a few randomly generated facts such as "no black person really *wants* to be black, that's absurd".

Because being black and being fat have an entirely different nature. They're non-analagous properties of a person. There's nothing undesirable about being black, it's just an arbitrary fact of birth. That is one of the fundamental differences and you don't seem to grasp the implications of it.

It seems to me that your entire position hinges on the notion that people don't naturally want to be slim and fit. And that's absurd. It goes completely against common sense. It is societal, but that's irrelevant. Being fat isn't attractive, that's a socially accepted fact and i'm inclined to think it's something very fundamental to the human psyche. I can't imagine any scenario where obesity would be socially regarded as beautiful, at least in the sense that, say, Natalie Portman is beautiful.

Anyway, i have to head home so i can't expand on that. I look forward to more vitriolic posts from you.

ps. i note you're putting words like 'disgust', 'hate', 'irritated' etc etc into my mouth. Heard the term 'strawman'?

 

[throdgrain]

I just hate all fat people ever.

No that isn't true. Christ, this thread has never been about whether fatness is an issue when liking people. As cringeworthy as it is to say, i have plenty of fat friends. Someone who didn't would be a statistical anomaly in this day and age, don't you know. I just think fatness is aesthetically unappealing, and there is a reason for this, whether it's because the media ingrains our notions of beauty into us from an early age or from some other sociological reason. That'd be a good discussion, if anyone wants to have it.

There you go, hes already said he doesnt hate fat people . im a bit confused luvs .

 

[nath]

Because being black and being fat have an entirely different nature. They're non-analagous properties of a person. There's nothing undesirable about being black, it's just an arbitrary fact of birth. That is one of the fundamental differences and you don't seem to grasp the implications of it.

They're both entirely cosmetic features of a person. Sure, being fat can lead to health problems, but so can being black (sickle cell anaemia). YOU say there's nothing undesirable about being black, your average racist will disagree. It strikes me that the only difference in nature between being fat and being black is that people can lose weight. So does the mere fact that being fat is a lifestyle choice (be it conscious or otherwise) make it ok to class it as disgusting - which, lets cut the shit, that's what you're saying. I’m not saying you should find fat people attractive, but your opinion that everyone does/should think that way – and not doing so is simply self-regulation/political correctness is what I take issue with.

 

[old.user4556]

Sorry to chip in here, but am the only who thinks "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" to the parallells being drawn to skin colour and being a fat person?

 

[nath]

They're both entirely cosmetic features of a person.

What's so difficult to see about that?

 

[old.user4556]

Of course I see that. I'm not joining in this discussion .

 

[Bodhi]

Black people can't help the colour of their skin. Fat people can PUT DOWN THE FORK!

 

[nath]

Therein lies a key difference. Would it be ok to dislike peoples skin colour if they could be made white by taking a course of medication (note I didn't say not dislike the person, merely the colour of their skin - I'm aware OblongChicken claims to like many fat people, but clearly he dislike fatness).

 

[throdgrain]

My mum HATES fat people.



Just thought I'd add that

 

[tris-]

holy fucking hell what happend. i am going to put into simple turns to show was me and ob meant all long. man this is like me describing you an orange and u keep telling me im talkin about oranges.

we dont hate fat people
we dont hate people for being fat
dont hate people who have medical reasons to be fat
dont hate people who say they are happy with

what we hate -
people who are fat from their own 'fault' and they moan that they are fat and dont do anything about it.

and about not finding any fat people attractive. well look at this - i like watching porn where people are tied up and get their pussy tortured. this guy nexts to me likes watching fat people fuck each other.

woul you say i was a weirdo and the other guy wasnt? this at you nath mainly. if i am the werido then why isnt fat fuckers weird?
if we both arnt weird then i dunno wtf u on nath everyone in a rational state of mind would say i was a weirdo.

 

[Driwen]

Therein lies a key difference. Would it be ok to dislike peoples skin colour if they could be made white by taking a course of medication (note I didn't say not dislike the person, merely the colour of their skin - I'm aware OblongChicken claims to like many fat people, but clearly he dislike fatness).

uhm a fat person is fat, because he is either excercising to little or eating too much (or has a medical condition which causes it). A person with a different skin colour is born that way.

 

[nath]

uhm a fat person is fat, because he is either excercising to little or eating too much (or has a medical condition which causes it). A person with a different skin colour is born that way.

Which is why I posed the question - if being black was a choice, like being fat is - would that make it ok to dislike it?


Tris, the fact that you equate sadomasochism with "BBW" porn speaks volumes on your opinion of fat people.


These volumes are not good.