Its not my fault im fat

[TdC]

haheh first time I laughed today. thanks throdders

 

[OblongChicken]

Okay i'm weighing in here.

I know someone who, when in a restaurant, after eating his first course went to the desserts trolley, got some profiterolls and ate all three of them (and cream/chocolate) in 3 bites. Then got two more desserts. When we were driving down to Cornwall this summer in two cars, we told the other car which he was in we were going to stop at a service station soon. We missed the first one but stopped at the second one. When we all got out of the cars, this guy shouted at us for not stopping at the first station because that had a KFC. Whilst in Newquay, he complained bitterly because our hotel was at the top of a hill. On the way back, after moaning about how much he had spent on the holiday, he bought a £7 meal at a service station when everyone else stuck to a sandwich or something. Once when speaking over the phone about how he wanted to lose weight, he was eating a bacon sandwich.
I have no sympathy for this man.

People with medical reasons aside, if you really want to lose weight you can. It's not easy, but that's not an excuse. Saying they 'forgot what they ate' doesn't excuse them. They just shouldn't fucking forget. Unless they have some kind of short-term memory problem a la Memento. Trem was telling me yesterday that in his life, he simply doesn't have time to take a lot of exercise. Not that he's fat, but fair enough. But even so, eating healthily and maybe walking instead of driving or something simple like that would make a difference. I think in most cases people are responsible for their weight. Quitting smoking is hard, but you're still responsible for being a smoker. I really don't see something being 'hard' as a legitimate excuse not to do it.

And i put on weight easily. I'm 5"10 and over 12 stone. I used to be over 13. Most fat people have it in their power to not be fat. And that has to be the bottom line. It's easier for some, but that's not an excuse.

Fricking blame culture.

 

[Mofo8]

that is complete rubbish, people's metabolisms may not differ that much a narrow band as you call it, but there is difference enough in that band to allow some people to eat a lot more and not put on weight than others. This eating less and doing more is a good principle but works a lot better for some people than it does others. The human body is a wonderful machine but people are still different and functions can vary greatly from person to person.

From here:

Researchers led by Dr. Ancel Keys at the University of Minnesota measured the energy requirements of people of different ages with different amounts of bodyfat. They found that the energy requirement of fat-free body weight (weight of the body minus the bodyfat) were remarkably constant for both men and women between the ages of 20 and 60. All the subjects, no matter what their sex or age, burned about 1.28 calories per hour per kilogram (2.2 lbs.) of fat-free body weight, under resting conditions.

There are other studies than confirm this too, but it's a nightmare googling for them as it pulls up endless dieting, weightlifting and so-called fitness sites.

I'm no scientist, but it appears they're saying that if you're a lazy bastard who eats too much and does little excercise, then you'll start piling on the pounds... which can alter your base metabolic rate... not the other way round.

I'll say it again... anyone who's metabolism falls outside a fairly narrow band should see a doctor as they has a thyroid problem or similar.

 

[leggy]

It's based on lean bodyweight.

Therefore more muscle = faster metabolism. If you actively body build your metabolism will be quite a bit out of the narrow range.

But I do agree with you. Metabolism does not dictate your weight. Your sitting on the couch eating cookies does.

 

[Xtro]

I've not read the whole thread so excuse me for barging in here (just like a fat person in a china shop).

All I have to add is that I like fat blokes as it means there's more nice looking girls to go round.

I like fat girls too because if my girlfriend ever says "oh I look a bit fat" I can point out a real heffer and say "look at that fat bastard, you dont look like her."

Win/win.

 

[Mofo8]

I've not read the whole thread so excuse me for barging in here (just like a fat person in a china shop).

All I have to add is that I like fat blokes as it means there's more nice looking girls to go round.

I like fat girls too because if my girlfriend ever says "oh I look a bit fat" I can point out a real heffer and say "look at that fat bastard, you dont look like her."

Win/win.

and... if you've not got a girlfriend... and you kop off with a fat bird... she'll be more appreciative?

[note to self] maybe that's the reason I'm rubbish at relationships... too interested in slim attractive girls... that don't fancy me...[]

 

[Trem]

Trem was telling me yesterday that in his life, he simply doesn't have time to take a lot of exercise. Not that he's fat, but fair enough. But even so, eating healthily and maybe walking instead of driving or something simple like that would make a difference. I think in most cases people are responsible for their weight. Quitting smoking is hard, but you're still responsible for being a smoker. I really don't see something being 'hard' as a legitimate excuse not to do it.

I always find time for a ciggie though

 

[old.Tohtori]

I really don't see something being 'hard' as a legitimate excuse not to do it.

Tell that to my gf...

 

[maxi]

*someone* must have pointed out that different people need different amounts of food to get fat. I would imagine that if your naturally tubby person ate the kind of food I did(my diet is terrible always has been and im 10 1/2 stone 5ft10), he'd be a behemoth. What I'm saying is, whilst there are things you can do to stay a normal weight...there's probably a lot of averagely weighted people on this forum alone that are blessed with a decent metabolism and are just as 'lazy' and adversed to excercise as those who are overweight.

and shit what is it with people dictating to others how they should eat? Why and HOW does it affect you that another person is overweight? Whats the problem?

 

[maxi]

Fricking blame culture.

This is quite funny, what about the Culture of Fattist(this is actually society in general) people who see being fat as disgusting, filthy, lazy, sloblike...abhorrent....where do you think your rant came from?

 

[Will]

It's political correctness gone mad. If we all voted UKIP, this wouldn't be allowed.

 

[throdgrain]

No thats wrong. Blame culture is a perfectly acceptable phrase in this instance. At the end of the day the people dont want to be fat, they want to be thinner, probably based on some TV idea of perfection true, but all the same, a lot of them cant accept the fact that they are fat because they eat too much and do too little, but need an excuse for their bellys, and decide "its my glands" (ooer) or whatever. Thus they are looking for a non-existant reason to excuse things, thus blame culture seems to me to be a perfectly acceptable statement.
Phew.

 

[Jupitus]

Can I blame culture for suddenley getting alot fatter as I get older and continue to drink shitloads of beer and insist on 4 slices of toast and peanut butter for breakfast????



Please?????

 

[nath]

How do you know people constantly blame genetics etc for their weight? Have you taken a survey of every single fat person in britain and produced a nice chart displaying the reasons people think they're fat, or are you just going buy the fact that OblongChicken knows a fat guy who happens to be a bit of a dick?

 

[throdgrain]

ACTUALLY I HAVE !!!








And actually I do !

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

How do you know people constantly blame genetics etc for their weight? Have you taken a survey of every single fat person in britain and produced a nice chart displaying the reasons people think they're fat, or are you just going buy the fact that OblongChicken knows a fat guy who happens to be a bit of a dick?

Mmm Pie.

I guess the test was doomed to failure from the word go . All of my results were sadly eaten and I can no longer prove to you that some people on earth blame their glands or their BONES or what have you.

 

[nath]

Is it a pie chart, cos that'd just be insensitive :|




edit: you suck D&D :\

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

Is it a pie chart, cos that'd just be insensitive :|




edit: you suck D&D :\

It was a joke

Edit: Also if you read my first post on this thread you'll see i have nothing against overweight people and was one of the few that actually watched the docu that this thread is based on.

Plus, I like Pie

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Is it a pie chart, cos that'd just be insensitive :|




edit: you suck D&D :\

You didn't read it did you?

 

[nath]

D&D your post wasn't there when I posted my reply to throd - that's why I was saying you suck, cos you got there first. Nothing more.

 

[Disorderly And Drunk]

Haha alright then, High-five pie buddy!

 

[old.Tohtori]

...this has to be done...

 

[tris-]

ok we all know there is fat people cos they have no choice, and there is fat people who are greedy yet they wont change. its the second lot of people that got on my man tits when they complain about being fat then shove a birthday cake now their neck.
its easy to lose fat, forget all the bollox that says "no its hard, take my pills!". i came off holday 2 weeks ago and so far lost 6lbs of fat. before that i lost 3 stone in 6 months. i didnt wanna goto the gym but i did anyway, i dont know how people cannot just get on with something even if they dont like it at that exact moment.
btw, this is aimed ONLY at the moaning fat people, not the people with a medical reason. before you all start shoutin again.

 

[OblongChicken]

ok we all know there is fat people cos they have no choice, and there is fat people who are greedy yet they wont change. its the second lot of people that got on my man tits when they complain about being fat then shove a birthday cake now their neck.

That's it exactly. People who complain about being fat, blame it on something they can't control and then have an extra helping of lard on their chocolate sundae. Those are the ones people are targetting in this thread, i think. And quite fairly too.

But i'm going to write more...

 

[OblongChicken]

This is quite funny, what about the Culture of Fattist(this is actually society in general) people who see being fat as disgusting, filthy, lazy, sloblike...abhorrent....where do you think your rant came from?

Oh no i'm racist against fat people!

Thing is, there are some people who believe in 'big is beautiful' and all that crap. I guess this is a slight tangent, seeing as we've been pilloring fat people who don't want to be fat so far, but the 'big is beautiful' crowd are a bunch of nobs too. I do equate fatness with physical ugliness. It's just unpleasant on the eye. You come up with this disapproving phrase 'culture of the fattist' to try and covertly equate my opinions with Jew-hating racists or other discriminatory groups, but it ain't the same.

When arguing with Christian fundamentalists about homosexuality, they'll often say that gay sex is repugnant (and therefore wrong). They're really dumb. And a good comeback is to say that so is fat-people sex, and that's not wrong. And the reason this argument works is because the notion of fat people having sex is repugnant! Relatively speaking.

I don't blanket dislike or blame all fat people, i take it case-by-case, but i do think they look ugly, to a degree. Not necessarily "disgusting, filthy, lazy, sloblike...abhorrent....", though. But your point that it's wrong to associate fatness with badness (implicitly implying that it's wrong in the same manner as it is to, say, associate Islam with badness or some other PC hotspot) isn't justified by itself.

Fatness is unappealing in itself and most fat people are responsible for being fat. That's not to say that it's wrong to be fat, but those who think they can't help it or it's beautiful in its own way are numpties.

ps. my mate who i used as an example isn't really a dick, but anyhoo...

 

[Catsby]

Catsby points out that being fat was considered very attractive around 100 years ago as it was an indication of wealth.
Now, Catsby feels that being overweight is seen as an indication of poverty, which is unattractive.

Catsby knows that the media helps to shape out culture, which shapes our minds from a very young age.


Catsby urges you to look past the weight issue. Catsby hopes that obchicken will then find his perfect (wo)man, be they fat or thin.

 

[leggy]

Faith from "In bed with Faith" fame is a bit overweight and she's an absolute hottie. Fatter people can be beautiful. If you think fat is ugly that is your perogative and should be realised as 'opinion only'.

On the note of 'greed causes obesity' please re-read my oral urination post again .

 

[nath]

Catsby points out that being fat was considered very attractive around 100 years ago as it was an indication of wealth.
Now, Catsby feels that being overweight is seen as an indication of poverty, which is unattractive.

Hmm, good point. If I recall correctly, all the nudey paintings you see in art gallerys feature fairly plump women. Despite what you might think, OblongChicken, Beauty is an entirely subjective thing.

 

[TdC]

rubens-eqsue being the term I believe. after Rubens, a painter who liked to paint girls of the "in bed with Faith" kind and above

 

[nath]

Rubenesque isn't it?

I never knew where that came from. I guess you learn something new everyday!*






*absolutely not true.