Insta Mezz

[rvn]

Yep u r right there.

Leme remind u guys, Rvn history :

Sorc ---- deleted
Zerker -- Thriving
Bard ---- Thriving.

armsman L(43) -> delete
rm L(12)-> stopped cause to zzz to lvl
sorc L(50) -> delete
rm L(15) -> stopped cause to zz to lvl
zerker L(50) -> stopped along with toa, and one jawz became inactive.
pac healer (pvp) L(47) -> inactive when pvp stopped
nightshade L(50) next
warden L(50) -> stopped cause lack of intreresst in pryd
sorc L(50) -> stopped cause a few players on mlf were too unserious
warrior (solo 1 - 50) -> currently playing
ranger L(50) -> stopped cause alb stealth on pryd.
armsman L48 (on prydwen with ugerdorf, this project went down however)

if you really care to troll so much zoyster.

 

[rvn]

also you seem to forget that on head collision the sorc should have enough time to unstick while rest of his grp goes ahead, and they get instad by healer/bard if they use that, while sorc is way back mezzing then demezzing

but since you have never ever been in an opted rvr group etc you totally lack experience in this subject.


1725 range vs 2150 is 425 range differance btw, not 375

 

[Clipse]

Sorry Zoy that must have hurt for you to respond by writing down nonsense, I'll be softer next time

u do that m8.

 

[Clipse]

armsman L(43) -> delete
rm L(12)-> stopped cause to zzz to lvl
sorc L(50) -> delete
rm L(15) -> stopped cause to zz to lvl
zerker L(50) -> stopped along with toa, and one jawz became inactive.
pac healer (pvp) L(47) -> inactive when pvp stopped
nightshade L(50) next
warden L(50) -> stopped cause lack of intreresst in pryd
sorc L(50) -> stopped cause a few players on mlf were too unserious
warrior (solo 1 - 50) -> currently playing
ranger L(50) -> stopped cause alb stealth on pryd.
armsman L48 (on prydwen with ugerdorf, this project went down however)

if you really care to troll so much zoyster.

blah blah easymode.

 

[rvn]

should i mention too that ive played with ad, and we didnt loose mezz that often and that we didnt perform bad at all toa made it alot harder with the grp setup they have tho.

 

[Clipse]

i swear to god Rvn, everytime i read your posts I get ZzzZzzZ mid-way, the shit u spew is incredible.

 

[nol]

u do that m8.

/fluffles zoy

 

[rvn]

i swear to god Rvn, everytime i read your posts I get ZzzZzzZ mid-way, the shit u spew is incredible.

its nice to being able to blame classes each time you die flawless isnt it?, even tho others in th same realm can put up fights.

 

[Clipse]

should i mention too that ive played with ad, and we didnt loose mezz that often and that we didnt perform bad at all toa made it alot harder with the grp setup they have tho.

I bet u died fg v fg.

 

[cougar]

this sorc discussion will NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER end.

o u c

 

[Calo]

you have a reputation for it Zoy, in Hibernia we call you GP.

hahahhaha quote of the year :wub:

 

[Clipse]

lol, I come here to make some objective arguments, and u start dissing me. I think I made my point. Cya. oh and btw, easymode easymode easymode.

 

[cougar]

lol, I come here to make some objective arguments, and u start dissing me. I think I made my point. Cya. oh and btw, easymode easymode easymode.

isnt hib or mid atleast "medium" mode? Or both easy?

 

[Clipse]

Midd - easy mode
Hibb - Easy to Medium mode
Alb - Medium to Hard mode
Wizard - Hard to v frustrating mode.

Hibbs and Albs can have a good fg vs fg fight. Alb Vs Midd, u just feel cheated and abused.

and hibb vs Midds Can have a good fight too.

I know this doesn't fit in with IRC mentatlity and whats Vogue, but I got 10.5 mill RPS and I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Aerendur]

If you make all stun classes the same, then also remove group purge (I know thats another old discussion).

But that IMO is a bigger problem than the Instants. For fairness you could give the sorc an instant instead of bolt range mez.

 

[yaruar]

Personally i think the CC arguments always look at the wrong thing, comparing range with instas with cast times.

Personally i think RvR would be a lot better if they removed all the area effect cc from the game...... it's the fact that entire groups can be neutralised from combat which makes this so one sided. It's very much a case of winning mez wins half the battle before it starts.

 

[cougar]

Personally i think the CC arguments always look at the wrong thing, comparing range with instas with cast times.

Personally i think RvR would be a lot better if they removed all the area effect cc from the game...... it's the fact that entire groups can be neutralised from combat which makes this so one sided. It's very much a case of winning mez wins half the battle before it starts.

yeah,daoc would be alot more fun if the realm with biggest numbers always won.

 

[Dorin]

Personally i think the CC arguments always look at the wrong thing, comparing range with instas with cast times.

Personally i think RvR would be a lot better if they removed all the area effect cc from the game...... it's the fact that entire groups can be neutralised from combat which makes this so one sided. It's very much a case of winning mez wins half the battle before it starts.

yes but this also means you are not assumed dead if you meet more then your numbers, which happens a lot in Daoc. Removing AE-CC would mean numbers >> everything else, i wouldnt like it much.

 

[swords]

We win mez often enough. The only thing Rushed whines about is after getting a perfect mez on hibs they GP and he gets pets on him.
Hibs are by far harder to fight than Mids atm aswell Zoyster.

 

[Filip]

also you seem to forget that on head collision the sorc should have enough time to unstick while rest of his grp goes ahead, and they get instad by healer/bard if they use that, while sorc is way back mezzing then demezzing

quote from soruzi..

thats what ppl should do.. and quiet often do .. but i remember from a NP video i saw from Hib prywden.. and when i watch'ed it i realised that you guys never/rarely spread out before the mezz's ....

it is the only NP vid i ever seen so maybee you better at it in the others. but all in all ... sometimes ppl spread .. sometimes they dont..

allso the number of toons with det. in the "new" alb groups are most likely to be nill ... and with no access to GP a mezz (which should land at some point) on the alb group feel's harder

on a side note i dont agree with the ppl saying mids are harder in general than hibs ....

It seems to me that the average balanced group from mid is much easyere to kill as an alb balanced group.. i belive this has somthing to do with hibs can use their old standard groups and mids/albs had to change group setup's ... and for the none addict hardcore gamer this takes looooonggg time ..

the hardcore/addict mid groups allthough are a completly different story... they rox and are possibly the best gank group in daoc atm .....

Filip

Theurg in HB

 

[rvn]

yes, well for hibbs its basicly best if all get mezzed at the same time so they can all GP and get immunity timer at the same time instead of half of grp getting mezzed then gp -> then half mezzed

 

[nuky]

watch PE's vid from alb/pryd

u guys could learn a lot from septina

 

[serious]

watch PE's vid from alb/pryd

u guys could learn a lot from septina

what is it with those guys from pryd?
they always come to the excal boards tellin excal albs that pryd albs are teh bomb etcetc.

the general concensus is still that sorcs do good against random/not so experienced guild grps, but have no chance against gank-guild grps. no need for a vid with some gank-grp from pryd killing random grps from mid/hib by the dozen..that stuff happens on excal too.

its the no fair chance against gank grps thats bothering us. atleast bothering me.
true.. random bard/healer might win the mezz against the sorc, but those grps dont fully take advantage of that situation which means the alb grp still have a chance. how different this is upon meeting gank-grps.

S.

 

[nuky]

what is it with those guys from pryd?
they always come to the excal boards tellin excal albs that pryd albs are teh bomb etcetc.

the general concensus is still that sorcs do good against random/not so experienced guild grps, but have no chance against gank-guild grps. no need for a vid with some gank-grp from pryd killing random grps from mid/hib by the dozen..that stuff happens on excal too.

its the no fair chance against gank grps thats bothering us. atleast bothering me.
true.. random bard/healer might win the mezz against the sorc, but those grps dont fully take advantage of that situation which means the alb grp still have a chance. how different this is upon meeting gank-grps.

S.

have seen good sorc's and bad sorc's on pryd. i dont claim that they are the 'bomb'. they dont sit around a bitch like little kids like u lot seem to. why? because most sorc's there know they have quite a good advantage in a given situation, and maybe at a disadvantage in another. u cant expect to win mez all the time.

watch the vid before u start talkin shit. the fights were all vs 'gank groups' or high RR mixed groups, people that know what they are doing.

 

[Tay]

Personally i think the CC arguments always look at the wrong thing, comparing range with instas with cast times.

Personally i think RvR would be a lot better if they removed all the area effect cc from the game...... it's the fact that entire groups can be neutralised from combat which makes this so one sided. It's very much a case of winning mez wins half the battle before it starts.

I think it would be interesting to say the least.

I still think Friendly fire [ON] would be hilarious

 

[serious]

have seen good sorc's and bad sorc's on pryd. i dont claim that they are the 'bomb'. they dont sit around a bitch like little kids like u lot seem to. why? because most sorc's there know they have quite a good advantage in a given situation, and maybe at a disadvantage in another. u cant expect to win mez all the time.

first of all we are not bitching but discussing the topic of the thread, secondly if you read you'll find out that we agree with your observation that we cant win mezz all the time, whereas we loose mezz-advantage all the time vs gank-grps.

now if you are done trolling, kindly go back pryd or stay on-topic and discuss instead of flaming. dont come here and point to a vid (which we all know only contains the good stuff, why else make a vid), and expect us to say ...omg hes right we sorcs on excal must be real bad, lets ask the pryd sorc to teach us how to play our toons.

S.

 

[nuky]

first of all we are not bitching but discussing the topic of the thread, secondly if you read you'll find out that we agree with your observation that we cant win mezz all the time, whereas we loose mezz-advantage all the time vs gank-grps.

now if you are done trolling, kindly go back pryd or stay on-topic and discuss instead of flaming. dont come here and point to a vid (which we all know only contains the good stuff, why else make a vid), and expect us to say ...omg hes right we sorcs on excal must be real bad, lets ask the pryd sorc to teach us how to play our toons.

S.

this subject has been run through what, 1000 times before? tbh its gone past the 'discussion' stage.

why are u loosing to gank groups? u should almost never loose mez with over 2k range and a cast speed of 1s (or so).

the vid show's a sorc doing what it can to its full potential (pre-toa). yes, its fights they won etc, but fights they probably wouldnt have won if their sorc wasn't so damn good. again, i say, WATCH THE VIDEO.

 

[Pbuck]

I have played all main mezz classes in alb/mb/mid.I have rr4 sorc and rr3 pac healer.My sorc is low rr compared to my bard but still i found sorc mezz ridiculously easy.The trick is to have sorc on /follow on the last member of the group and to have another player(merc/pala/minstrel) to lead the group.When there is a group inc from ahead or side the sorc unsticks and can get the cast off while the front part of the group gets insta mezzed.Its really simple but from what i've seen in alb/excal most sorcs like to lead the group and get abused by instas then come here and make cry threads.

 

[swords]

Always have your MA lead. We do it and as said above it does work.
I always cringe when joining a random group and when asking who is driving they say the sorc

 

[Dorin]

I have played all main mezz classes in alb/mb/mid.I have rr4 sorc and rr3 pac healer.My sorc is low rr compared to my bard but still i found sorc mezz ridiculously easy.The trick is to have sorc on /follow on the last member of the group and to have another player(merc/pala/minstrel) to lead the group.When there is a group inc from ahead or side the sorc unsticks and can get the cast off while the front part of the group gets insta mezzed.Its really simple but from what i've seen in alb/excal most sorcs like to lead the group and get abused by instas then come here and make cry threads.

agreed, had sorc pretoa... wasnt uber etc but the casting speed and range was amusing. Was abit hard to get used to pachealer after sorc, range and casting time wise.