Important BW news

[Summo]

I never realised that all this time you could book a server for free. I always assumed there was a price attached. D'oh!

Anyway, carry on...

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Tremor{KEA}
I don't mind paying but the only thing what is gonna stop me is if non of my CS mates pay, I wanna play with my buddies, not some rich yuppie who can freely splash out £2 a month like its going out of fashion

You never fail to make me laugh Tremsie

I'm gonna gauge the reply's on here and if people like Throddy, Leggie, 1tchy and the other mates I've made are going to pay then so will I.

I think i'll pay mate. I have a GAME reward card lying somewhere which has never been used so it'll only be £12 for me...but you can get one for £2....please stay

 

[pcg79]

I'm happy to pay - I just want to know; can we still use ASE/Gamespy? Or do we need to download BarryBar or something ?

Slightly O/T but I had a dream about this thread. There were like 300 pages and I was scared to read them all (why, I dont know) - but then I clicked on one, and I found it was one post per page. Delighted was I

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Summo
I never realised that all this time you could book a server for free. I always assumed there was a price attached. D'oh!

Anyway, carry on...

]

OMG me neither

/tries to turn back time

 

[Summo]

From what I understand you can use the BarryLogon utility which sits in your system tray and automatically logs you on. Then you can see the BW subscription servers in ASE.

I may be wrong about this, though.

 

[pcg79]

I see..

 

[Deebs]

Originally posted by pcg79
I'm happy to pay - I just want to know; can we still use ASE/Gamespy? Or do we need to download BarryBar or something ?

Slightly O/T but I had a dream about this thread. There were like 300 pages and I was scared to read them all (why, I dont know) - but then I clicked on one, and I found it was one post per page. Delighted was I

As long as you have authed then you can use whatever tools you use now. You do not need to use any of our software.

Just make sure you either

a) logon via the web
b) use BarryLogon

Thats it.

 

[old.charliealpha]

Originally posted by old.TheGaffer

So what you're saying is - BW should keep it free so people can play, for nothing, with games they paid nothing for? Oookaay.

No, I'm saying that there are people who can't afford to pay subscriptions. Of course BW can't keep it free and I haven't once said that. The whole point is that I get enough of a mature response to know that when I pay, I get a good service. I'm not trying to rile anyone. Just ensuring that its a good move. Surely I'm entitled to a say?

Delightful high quality smiley-centric merchandise has been available for some time - it doesn't pay the bills.

Perhaps then, its time for a rethink on the whole corporate identity? Smileys are nice and yes, delightful, but for it to become a viable revenue its not that great an id. There is a wide range of people out there ready to spend their cash on stylish products that look good and reflect the attitude of the company they bought it from. Going back to the excessive mobile fone costs and the £50 a month to the gym mentioned earlier, how cool would a BW mobile fone cover look? I'd definatley wear a BW t-shirt out if it was a good design. Its all about fashion in some respects and kids pay for fashion. The average teenager spends up to £150 a month on various products (BBC1 program the other night, Teen Species or whatever it was called. Its there to be tapped.

You KNOW what would have happened if EB had started to slap buy buttons all over BW from day one. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

But its a more than just slapping buy buttons all over the place. We, the internet community, see all these wonderful places to buy things online with more inventive and creative shopping systems popping up all the time. Half the fun of buying things online is the actual visit to the page itself.

Anyway, as I stated before, I'll stay with BW and I'll support BW as much as I always have.

 

[Summo]

I was right! Dammit, I practically work here. DBs, when the first wave of subs come in, don't forget those people who made you what you are. Eh? Eh? You with me?

 

[Deebs]

Originally posted by Summo
I was right! Dammit, I practically work here. DBs, when the first wave of subs come in, don't forget those people who made you what you are. Eh? Eh? You with me?

Um, sure. Was you there when BarrysWorld was Clan Fluffy and then TS ?

Show ME (oops Game) the monnnnneyyyyyy

 

[Summo]

Um... I might have been ill that day.

 

[old.TheGaffer]

No, I'm saying that there are people who can't afford to pay subscriptions. Of course BW can't keep it free and I haven't once said that. The whole point is that I get enough of a mature response to know that when I pay, I get a good service. I'm not trying to rile anyone. Just ensuring that its a good move. Surely I'm entitled to a say?

No one's denying your right to have an opinion, but you can understand that its quite difficult to square online gaming, which requires ownership of a computer, an internet connection and games, with the inability to pay £12 (or even £24) a year! And, in the unlikely event that someone can't afford £1-£2 a month, then they're not going to be able to afford to buy fancy t-shirts or BW-branded hardware are they?

 

[old.charliealpha]

Originally posted by old.TheGaffer
No one's denying your right to have an opinion, but you can understand that its quite difficult to square online gaming, which requires ownership of a computer, an internet connection and games, with the inability to pay £12 (or even £24) a year! And, in the unlikely event that someone can't afford £1-£2 a month, then they're not going to be able to afford to buy fancy t-shirts or BW-branded hardware are they?

No, that person who can't afford to pay the subscription obviously won't be able to buy fancy gear. Perhaps I could of used a better example. However, It's that grotty teenager who has £150 a month spare to spend on gear that could essentially pay for 12 subscriptions in 1 go should they pay £25 for a single BW product. Like I said, theres more money to be made in other areas.

 

[Trem]

Pr0n is where the money's at.

Bollox to it I'm gonna pay, I just don't want to play on any other servers.

It's well worth 50p a week and hopefully cheaters will be less and I'm hoping Jobs is tight because I may do better if he don't pay

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Tremor{KEA}
Pr0n is where the money's at.

Bollox to it I'm gonna pay, I just don't want to play on any other servers.

It's well worth 50p a week and hopefully cheaters will be less and I'm hoping Jobs is tight because I may do better if he don't pay

Maybe I won't get called a cheater anymore too ...oh...sorry that didn't happen to me :/

 

[~YuckFou~]

I think you'll find that its only 25p a week. I loose more than that down the back of the couch

 

[FTD Golem]

My two pennies

Moving to a suscription service will benefit Barrysworld's own services no end, such as web hosting and FTP etc. We've been spoilt with the free service we've enjoyed so much, and £12 (£24 to most) is a small price to pay what we get.

BW servers are (in my opinion) the best Q3F publics for response time. Unfortunately, to remove them from general use will worsen the already dwindling player numbers. What about those peeps who have just got the mod and are looking for a bit of fun? What about servers for paying peeps and servers for those who don't?

The users of email, web hosting, etc. like myself will be willing to offer a bit of dosh, but the guys who just want a public to play on won't.

 

[old.Jernau]

Back in the very dim and distant, Wireplay used to cost me a tenner a month + call charges on top which i was happy to pay. That got me access to their game servers (Duke Nukem 3D, Big Red Racing, Doom and loads of others) plus their chatrooms, ladders. Anyone remember the wireplay client v1 and v2?

They dropped the tenner a month after a while and things continued nicely until the quality of the service dropped due to the influx of players not having to pay a subscription. So myself and the QW clan i was in (WarHammer) moved off Wireplay and onto Barrysworld's service. Since Wireplay dropped their subs they couldn't afford to buy new kit so were stuck with running the newer machine hungry games on older hardware (their V90 USR diallup rack was awful). Gameplay happened to come along at some point to help out, but for us WP still didn't compare to BW.

So now BW have gone subscription based, which can only be a good thing. Games servers will have less cheats, you get webspace and MySql, and you get the experience of the BW staff, plus all the other extras. Sheesh WP didn't offer half of the services that BW now offer you when they did their tenner-a-month deal.

Well Played Barrysworld. You'll do fine.



Jernau
(Who at one point worked at GamesInferno)

 

[1tchy trigger]

Originally posted by *Kornholio*


Jolt aren't going p2p (or so they say) coz they make enough dosh at the moment on clan servers & adsl... they're pretty adamant at the moment about not going the p2p route...

There's a big difference between'making enough dosh' and 'making shit loads more' - they'll change - guaranteed.

 

[*Kornholio*]

sooner or later i suppose...

 

[*Kornholio*]

Originally posted by bigfoot
We may introduce a Subscriber only Clan Server (at a huge discount) some point in the future but not at the moment.

That sounds good

 

[MYstIC G]

Originally posted by *Kornholio*
Jolt aren't going p2p (or so they say) coz they make enough dosh at the moment on clan servers & adsl... they're pretty adamant at the moment about not going the p2p route...

Don't believe everything Jolt tell you. If you do the rough maths on their potential revenues, it doesn't seem to add up.

 

[kanonfodda]

While I agree with P2P (as stated early) there is one thing that people haven't mentioned. I don't know how much of an effect this would have, but if all the servers go P2P, then people will stick with one GSP.

No more moiving over to a different server, if BW falls over, cos you would have to pay a subscription for the other GSP as well.

this could lead to a BW CS community, becoming seperate from all the other parts fo the CS community, as with all the other games. I don't know if this would be a good thing or not (only been playing on line for 18months or so).

Just a thought.

 

[Kempo]

well dont know about many other games, but

bw ra2 server = shit and no one plays there
jolt ra2 server = best and where everyone plays

single bw ctfs server = ok but only allows 12 players max
5*jolt ctfs servers = where the majority of people play and each server has a player limit of 16

so atm if there was any service i would be paying for it would be jolt, bw will need to improve the state of things in regard to these mods if htey expect anyone from them to pay.

 

[Mas-]

I get crap pings with BW servers, nothing worth paying for there. If i had to eventualy p2p then it will most likely be a different gsp. Nothing in bw offer worth 12/24 quid.
24 quid is a bit much even tho its most likely just to get ppl to get a game card so they can get the great 12 quid deal which really should be how much it cost even if you dont have a card.

24 quid just to play on 1 gsp ? dont think so.

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by MYstIC G
Don't believe everything Jolt tell you. If you do the rough maths on their potential revenues, it doesn't seem to add up.

Plus if everyone else does...why not

 

[MYstIC G]

Jolt had an estate agent sign on em a while ago, if you get me.....

 

[Sawtooth]

Ill pay, sooner or later, I'll pay

 

[Majic...]

Im with Charliealpha on this.

(although his free downloaded games from your mates thing was off )

Hiding ALL the public servers and putting them all behind a pay service is not good.

We do not offer enough to draw the casual gamer or a new gamer for them to pay for a subscription

Would you buy a subscription to a magazine without ever reading a copy?

What happens if that magazine was freely available? (thou not of the same calibre but who would know?)

What happens when you get that magazine its EMPTY!

Reducing the number of public servers (thus reducing your revenue drain) to below saturation (so all you see are full servers) would entice people to subscribe for either guaranteed entry to the public server or entry to a subs only server.

Also increasing the products you get with subscription would entice more people to buy into it. (the web hosting is only offered to a limited number so dont get too excited).

For example stats and tables for each gamer/mods etc.

Paying for the bookable servers I wouldnt mind doing but playing on empty servers I would mind.

Witty answers about freeloaders does not hide the fact that the path chosen by BW is the same as the path chosen by many other now redundent GSPs.

Wireplay anyone?

Also if your worried about the connection between BW and GAME being not recognised then rebrand BW under GAME and promote it that way.

That way you promote GAME and strengthen the connection.
Unless of course you dont want that connection.

 

[Mellow-]

Will some of you stop moaning about having to pay to use a service. I bet some of you don't tip in real life do you

You don't get anything for free in this world. P2P = t3h w1n.

Just wondering if the forums will remain free?