How would you like to see warlocks "altered"

[popa]

/account off even if dont play a wl
mythic better begin balance classes before release the expansion`s

bye bye daoc welcome eve
see u

 

[Righthandof]

/account off even if dont play a wl
mythic better begin balance classes before release the expansion`s

bye bye daoc welcome eve
see u

one less i-cant-play-with-skill-i-play-with-overpowered-sh*t-class-instead, not a big loss.

byebye

 

[popa]

one less i-cant-play-with-skill-i-play-with-overpowered-sh*t-class-instead, not a big loss.

byebye

u have to read better
i dont play a wl

 

[Cemeterygates]

Everything else you typed is yet based on 1 vs 1, yes the warlock is v good 1 vs 1, but not sustained, over the first 10 secs a warlock can outdamage any caster over 20 any caster can outdamage a warlock, 1 vs 1 caster against caster are all over in less than 10 secs, maybe some infs/sb/ns fights last longer i dunno but caster wars are fast. I only cast UI cast purely because its the fastest cast a warlock has, i dont stand a chance with powerless or base dd first so the class design is to use chambers and UI.

Id love nothing more to have dex based casting and remove all the WC line, but mythic nerfs it the wrong way and people will still insta die even after nerf, just more power usage for the warlock.

yea... an warlock vs tank is over in about 3 seconds...which lets the tank do what...throw a swing....whoa....fuck me nerf tanks!!...lol
an u can say i'm crying all u like...no1 has said i am yet....but...i dont expect to win 1-1 even 30% of the time.....but against a warlock...its certain death for just about any1....which to me doesnt seem fair...

 

[Gamah]

I would like to see them deleted

Your (JJ's) avartr is of such bitterness

BTW Doromir not "preping warlock for 1.81" anymore xD?

 

[Eva]

No one is nerfing MoC3, and again I say UI on a warlock IS interuptable by mezz, unlike MoC, as well as all the other things mentioned in this thread that people over estimate about warlocks.

What? MoC doesn't give cc immunity, nothing do cept for charge.

As for the speed they die, a sorc can LT at 1.4 seconds max dex, hitting on average (unless gimped) for 600 damage

I'd like to do that with my sorc. 40 + 16 body, mom2, 9% damage in temp and 5% pierce and I'm not getting close unless it's a debuffed target. Get your facts straight and stop posting bullshit.

 

[Puppet]

^^^ Everyone knows by now that sorcs dish out 600-800 damage every 0.3 second with their baseline-lifetap, on average. Even if they're 44 mind, coz its a baseline-lifetap.

Ur sorc just sucks Eva. Sucks as much as my bainshee, coz she dont even nuke for 850 on 50% body-resists

 

[Kaun_IA]

^^^ Everyone knows by now that sorcs dish out 600-800 damage every 0.3 second with their baseline-lifetap, on average. Even if they're 44 mind, coz its a baseline-lifetap.

Ur sorc just sucks Eva. Sucks as much as my bainshee, coz she dont even nuke for 850 on 50% body-resists

u dont know much about mages.... its baseline yes. BUT u have to specc body to do good dmg whit it. if u have only 1 body. u will hit allmost nothing whit it. ur variance will be from 50 dmg to what ever.

 

[Puppet]

u dont know much about mages.... its baseline yes. BUT u have to specc body to do good dmg whit it. if u have only 1 body. u will hit allmost nothing whit it. ur variance will be from 50 dmg to what ever.

u dont know much about jokes do you

 

[Gamah]

Maybe your just not funny puppet ?

 

[Bugz]

nvm.

 

[Eruptix]

Maybe your just not funny puppet ?

he tries to atleast

TRY HARDER NEXT TIME PUPPET !



and yeah,I rofl'd irl when I saw whoodoo's clueless post but wasnt at home to write a nice reply to it

one thing that isnt pointed out yet:
sorcs cast faster then 1.4s..

 

[Marcus75]

It would be interesting to see what has caused Mythic the biggest loss of money/subscriptions - whiners that cry about other realms classes or people who actually play their realms expansion classes for months only to find it being slammed into the ground by the nerf-bat.

 

[eggy]

Cam dahn, cam dahn

 

[Gamah]

Cam dahn, cam dahn

stop being a rep whore eggy :<
&

 

[Tinneth]

How many of you actually tried out a warlock ? before critising it ?
I can say i have played a WL, got it a kind of a ToA temp, some BL's , and i will not lie it was some of the best fun i ever had , it is situationly stupidly overpowered yes ,just like a bain , But i can tell you all , when at the Helm of Warlock you can easily get into the mind Frame of "I can win anything" and get cocky and get out played , like a few situations, i.e a ml10 ranger *cough* Censi , that is a good trick , or a rr 10 ml10 convoker nature druid who uses ML9 and rr5 . In conclusion:
a) They are fun
b) u make lots of enemies <who no doubt will respond to this post>
c) Ur Chamber fingers hurt from mashing keyboard
d) This nerf will end my fun :*(
e) Time to respec 5 chamebrs to see what it looks like me finks and return to glaston

:touch: thats my story

 

[Eva]

How many of you actually tried out a warlock ? before critising it ?
I can say i have played a WL, got it a kind of a ToA temp, some BL's , and i will not lie it was some of the best fun i ever had , it is situationly stupidly overpowered yes ,just like a bain , But i can tell you all , when at the Helm of Warlock you can easily get into the mind Frame of "I can win anything" and get cocky and get out played , like a few situations, i.e a ml10 ranger *cough* Censi , that is a good trick , or a rr 10 ml10 convoker nature druid who uses ML9 and rr5 . In conclusion:
a) They are fun
b) u make lots of enemies <who no doubt will respond to this post>
c) Ur Chamber fingers hurt from mashing keyboard
d) This nerf will end my fun :*(
e) Time to respec 5 chamebrs to see what it looks like me finks and return to glaston

:touch: thats my story

Your warlock is 4L2, and you're getting killed by rr10 players. I wonder why?

 

[Crocky]

each insta they use = -30% hp

 

[Lollersausage]

I would like to see them deleted

You only don't care cause yours got reset xDD

 

[Thorwyn]

Whenever people used to complain about Warlocks being OPed in pre-nerf times, the stereotype reply of the WL fraction used to be "hehe, QQ more n00bs, I´m having fun playing my lock and I`ll keep killing you kekekeke nas-nas omgwtf!!!1" (occasionally without the nas-nas part, that´s true). And now, the same ´locks are trying to start a objective, mature and "whineless" discussion about how to save their class? That´s pretty ironic isn´t it?

Ok, on topic: I don´t know enough about the functionality of the class (and no, I don´t need to know more to have an opinion, so skip all the "play a WL first!" replies), so my observations are of a more general nature. The problem with Warlocks isn´t their frontload damage. I don´t give a damn about how much damage a class is able to deal as long as there are tools against, i.e. as long as some game mechanics to counter the actions of your opponent. That´s a fundamental thing in gamedesign. If one side is able to force their main weapons to go off with no or little (stun, NS.. ok) tool to counter it, there´s something wrong. That said, I´d say let them have the damage output they had before the nerf, but at least SOMEHOW make them interruptable (or reduce the damage if the caster is being interrupted in a certain timewindow after releasing the chambers). That´s it. You can have your damage, your range, your DOTs your chambers, but there´s got to be ways available to most classes to at least do "something" against the frontload going off and hitting with full force.

 

[Mas]

[QUOTE='Thorwyn[B&Q] That said, I´d say let them have the damage output they had before the nerf, but at least SOMEHOW make them interruptable (or reduce the damage if the caster is being interrupted in a certain timewindow after releasing the chambers). That´s it. You can have your damage, your range, your DOTs your chambers, but there´s got to be ways available to most classes to at least do "something" against the frontload going off and hitting with full force.[/QUOTE]

They can still be interupted (albeit powerless or base dd cast), but due to slow cast times in rvr, uniteruptable is the only was to cast 99.9% of the time, Its not as some say free moc, its an expensive way to cast and you gotta do everything in 6 casts like heal ns snare etc. Dex based cast times would solve this. But i really dont think people would like to see per original nerf dmg with 270 per tick dots and 650+ lt dmg.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Providing i respec to battlemaster, the throw weapon would interupt the caster for 3 secs whilst i fumble for my weapon for 8 seconds, why a free 5 second of nukage/kite. Or do you mean throw as in the none specced warrior line because that would be funny.

actually next patch it's "press fury, sprint towards caster" - boom dead caster.

 

[Zdeath]

Warlocks can't be altered really - it's a broken class.

 

[Biggilus]

i admit i am overpowered and of course havign fun with it
ill welcome the change though, by the time it hits glastonbury it will be quite a few months down the line and more than likely ill be bored of the warlock by then.
vamps next on the hitlist tho?

 

[Urgat]

Me

Assume that was aimed at me Would love to see you kill a warlock as ANY caster, hell... i'd love to see you kill a warlock 1v1 fullstop.

I routinely Kill warlocks one on one with my Heretic.

Granted, the ones i have killed are stupid...

With capped matter resists, and enough hit points to "Weather the storm" so to speak, i can fre up Uniteruptable focus, and be sure that they wont try to get away before its ramps up...

Most warlocks believe themselves to be invincible one on one... and thus will happly stand there unloading on me whilst i ramp to 700+ damage a tick.

Its the one weakness the class has... 90% of the people playing them are cluless.

The 10% who actually know what there doing, are scary though.

 

[Shike]

Funny how it's always the mids that get the huge nerfs....

LA was nerfed because Zerkers did too much damage
Savages was nerfed because they did too much damage
Warlocks is getting nerfs atm because they do too much damage

Nothing strange with that Oo

If you as a mid cant see why the nerfs are coming and going you really need to step back 2 steps and look at balance alittle more. Do you believe its right that a tank has potential to twoshot unmoosed heroes? (zerkers could actually do that, for the newer players of the game^^), Savages could kill pretty much any support in 1.5s with 2 swings nomatter _what_ they did, do you think thats balanced? Warlocks can take a PA+CD in the face, purge and kill an assassin or pretty much anything else in 1-4s and end on 100% HP, is this what you call balance? Sure Sorcs are good, actually a rocking caster but nowhere near as frustrating for others as WL's are, same with every other caster in the game atm.

The people whining about the warlockwhiners really really need to get a clue, and a larger big one aswell. Its awful how bad balancecheck you guys actually have and what I find even more amazing is that some of the players have played for years and still didnt learn squat about the game. I guess it says something about the playertype or IQ. (read, I want godmode for me and refuse to give it away for the sake of balance, nomatter how retarded my class is)

(bains getting a welldeserved nerf on CAE finally which isnt so strange either.. just fix the taunt and bains are toned down ok at least)

Personally I hope Warlocks get nerfed to hell so they are unplayable in RVR, the idiots playing and defending the class are just sad and I'd be happy to see them waste a good deal of time on a FOTMclass and QQ over it.

 

[Trunks]

1v1 there are a few ways to kill a warlock, as there is with any class..as long as your a soj and have phase shift/fz....phase shift, warlock unloads chambers, get close..fz..one dead warlock. i havent tested this on warlocks yet, as i only play mid atm..and i've never played a warlock so im one of those qq noobs also dont heretics have that rr5 ability that nerfs magic dmg to hell?

 

[Raven]

The same shit can be said when my warr (2890 hp and 27% and 10% body resists off sub spells ) sees a sorc dead albeit 1 sec longer than a warlock.

bullshit
either you suck or you arent toa'd there are lots of ways to kill a sorc as a heavy tank, you have to be lucky to kill a warlock (lucky to get no crits, lucky that thier purge is down etc) with a sorc you can just run up to them, GS thier brittles away, cowering below thier pet away then kill them, if they moc use run through. not that hard if you know what you are doing. ofc before the moc/soi nerf it was different, thing is they got fixed, now warlocks are also getting fixed

 

[cemi0]

bullshit
either you suck or you arent toa'd there are lots of ways to kill a sorc as a heavy tank, you have to be lucky to kill a warlock (lucky to get no crits, lucky that thier purge is down etc) with a sorc you can just run up to them, GS thier brittles away, cowering below thier pet away then kill them, if they moc use run through. not that hard if you know what you are doing. ofc before the moc/soi nerf it was different, thing is they got fixed, now warlocks are also getting fixed

I for one would really love to see that happen. Maybe you sneaked up on an AFK sorc some day and felt proud?

 

[Mas]

bullshit
either you suck or you arent toa'd there are lots of ways to kill a sorc as a heavy tank, you have to be lucky to kill a warlock (lucky to get no crits, lucky that thier purge is down etc) with a sorc you can just run up to them, GS thier brittles away, cowering below thier pet away then kill them, if they moc use run through. not that hard if you know what you are doing. ofc before the moc/soi nerf it was different, thing is they got fixed, now warlocks are also getting fixed

Run up to a class that has speed and mezz and root, this is all assuming the sorc doesnt see a huge troll running at him, or that his di bot has DI down. So as you state you DO have to be lucky also. Give warriors charge too!