that's a very constructive post that is...Eversmallx said:just delete them and get it over with.
Ingafgrinn Macabre said:As marcus75 said there to be a post on the vnboards that was very thorough I thought I'd search for it. Here is Thronsen's nice post:
And it's not neccesarily that we do or do not deserve those nerfs but it's very depressing and lowering your moral if you get another class nerfed to the bone.
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here is the VNBoards warlock board with a few other tests etc on how much damage a warlock actually does.
Septina said:Ever think about that the nerfs might be quite justified?
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Ingafgrinn Macabre said:To say it in chandler style:
Have you even _read_ my post??
I wish they would boost all other classes instead of nerfing :>MadsKaizer said:I believe in hard nerfing
Dorimor1 said:The nerf was justified but I think Mythic should look at some other classes too and not pick on one class just because the MoCing sorcs have something they can't kill easily.
Septina said:Assume that was aimed at me Would love to see you kill a warlock as ANY caster, hell... i'd love to see you kill a warlock 1v1 fullstop.
Been instakilled on my sorc vs warlocks, been instakilled on my blademaster vs warlocks.
There is NO other class in this game that comes even remotely close to being as overpowered as the warlock is.
My sorc has 6% matter resist so ofc i eat dirt every time i come up vs one and i expect people to come with comments such as 'omfg get some resists then noob, no wonder you die vs warlocks'.
I find it utterly pointless to get capped matter resists on a caster with 1500hp when my blademaster WITH capped matter resists die in a matter of seconds vs warlocks.
41% matter resists, 2500hp and i still cant do shit to kill warlocks
Dorimor1 said:Wasn't aimed specifically at you.
I'm not going to deny that the warlock is a silly class and should have been thought over before throwing it into the game. Its just that Mythic should also be looking at some other classes.
Ingafgrinn Macabre said:To say it in chandler style:
Have you even _read_ my post??
old.Whoodoo said:No one is nerfing MoC3, and again I say UI on a warlock IS interuptable by mezz, unlike MoC, as well as all the other things mentioned in this thread that people over estimate about warlocks.
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Corran said:Sorry but... wtf?
How is MoC3 not interuptable by mezz?? You do realise that moc does NOT give you immunity to Crowd Control spells... this means if someone moc's then you either 1) stun them or 2) mezz them...
So how is this different to a warlock? Or are all my casters that have got moc bugged? because non of them can moc cast while mezzed or stunned!
Marcus75 said:People who, still, think Warlocks are so overpowered and need the coming nerf should go read the extensive testing Thorsen has done in the Warlock forums on VN Boards.
Coldbeard said:OR log onto the fucking game and judge themselves instead of reading about what some clueless yank on VN board claims?
Septina said:Assume that was aimed at me Would love to see you kill a warlock as ANY caster, hell... i'd love to see you kill a warlock 1v1 fullstop.
Been instakilled on my sorc vs warlocks, been instakilled on my blademaster vs warlocks.
There is NO other class in this game that comes even remotely close to being as overpowered as the warlock is.
My sorc has 6% matter resist so ofc i eat dirt every time i come up vs one and i expect people to come with comments such as 'omfg get some resists then noob, no wonder you die vs warlocks'.
I find it utterly pointless to get capped matter resists on a caster with 1500hp when my blademaster WITH capped matter resists die in a matter of seconds vs warlocks.
41% matter resists, 2500hp and i still cant do shit to kill warlocks
Mas said:OMG Spetina's chars cant kill a warlock 1 on 1 dial 0800 cry nerf.. to get your most hated char nerfed. Again the assumption is 1 on 1 RVR isnt 1 on 1... The same shit can be said when my warr (2890 hp and 27% and 10% body resists off sub spells ) sees a sorc dead albeit 1 sec longer than a warlock. I could mention the same with a theurg, chanter, menta, eld, etc etc so dont give comparisons on 1 vs 1 cause its just not valid.
Septina said:Big diff is that any of those casters can be interrupted... a warlock even at rr1 can dish away insane damage without a chance of being interrupted.
If the warlock actually could be interrupted it wouldnt be half as overpowered as it is but the fact remains. You can mezz the warlock but as soon as you break that mezz you will be eating grass without ANY chance to do anything.
The ONLY thing that can stop a warlock is stun and that can be easily countered by the lock by speccing purge2.
And dont see how you're not able to kill casters with your warr, see caster, throw weapon and voila he's INTERUPTED which a warlock wouldnt be.
Mas said:Providing i respec to battlemaster, the throw weapon would interupt the caster for 3 secs whilst i fumble for my weapon for 8 seconds, why a free 5 second of nukage/kite. Or do you mean throw as in the none specced warrior line because that would be funny.
Septina said:Nice way of dodging everything else i typed :]
Sod em let them cryMas said:The 1.82 nerf wont stop insta killing, if a warlock sets his sights on you and unloads your dead which is what you cry about, the ideas ive posted are to stop you crying and bring them inline with other casters, but obviously you post crap about specs in other casters which noone specs.