How to beat Public enemies?

[Dreami]

since when has reaction speed anything to do with sorcer or healer or bard class?

Lol.

 

[Edlina]

since when has reaction speed anything to do with sorcer or healer or bard class? It's called skill m8.
and if you really want to add extra variables. sorc has to press 2 buttons while bard/healer has to press one which gives you another delay of atleast 0,1sec.

Rofl

isdatso meight?

 

[Arthemis]

Be carefull with septina.. she makes you think she's an easy prey, and then she will nuke you dead before you can get your instas off

 

[Straef]

since when has reaction speed anything to do with sorcer or healer or bard class? It's called skill m8.
and if you really want to add extra variables. sorc has to press 2 buttons while bard/healer has to press one which gives you another delay of atleast 0,1sec.

Even if you're 'skilled' you aren't gonna do shit if you won't react?

 

[Humo]

It got everything to do with those classes? If you react like a hungover 70 year old I doubt you will win many mezzes.

mayhaps you should read the quote a bit better next time. he said you can't calculate who will get in mez in first. (sorcer or healer with insta) ""because you need to add extra variables(factors) like reactionspeed"". which is bullshit.

 

[Elitestoner]

STUF!!!!111

SHUT THE UP FUCK!!!!!11

 

[Sagano]

because the difference is smaller then reactionspeed maybe ?
he said prove not calculate

and yes we all rvr in housing zone

 

[Luona]

anger spirits of doom > malev

So ani > caba

Ani > pe

4thewin irl etc osv mm enuff said

 

[Maleg]

anger spirits of doom > malev

So ani > caba

Ani > pe

4thewin irl etc osv mm enuff said

Gimp!

 

[willowywicca]

anger spirits of doom > malev

So ani > caba

Ani > pe

4thewin irl etc osv mm enuff said

Atleast kill me solo before making such claims

 

[Balbor]

you are saying casting insta-amnesia on someone stops them from casting ever?
no. it doesnt.
have you ever played a bard or a sorc?

insta-amnesia to stop the cast and then follow up with a full duration mezz, which can be spammed, will work for sorcerers as well although there cast speed of the amnesia will be 100% slower.

 

[haarewin]

insta-amnesia to stop the cast and then follow up with a full duration mezz, which can be spammed, will work for sorcerers as well although there cast speed of the amnesia will be 100% slower.

hard for bards to cast faster than sorcs. even landing amnesia wont stop a sorc mezzing since toa.

 

[Eroa]

whats Balbors surname ingame? my guess is Clueless

 

[Maleg]

insta-amnesia to stop the cast and then follow up with a full duration mezz, which can be spammed, will work for sorcerers as well although there cast speed of the amnesia will be 100% slower.

Technically it's infinitely slower, insta = 0 cast time. anything / 0 = infinity

 

[Straef]

insta-amnesia to stop the cast and then follow up with a full duration mezz, which can be spammed, will work for sorcerers as well although there cast speed of the amnesia will be 100% slower.

No it won't. How did you get the 100%, cuz you have to spam 2 buttons instead of 1? -.-
Anyway can't go calculating how long it would take for a sorc or whatever to mez as response differs per time aswell as there being lag/trees/hills etc.
Such a pointless thread, I love it

 

[Quinlan]

Technically it's infinitely slower, insta = 0 cast time. anything / 0 = infinity

actually:

Technically it's an error, insta = 0 cast time. anything / 0 = error

 

[Pbuck]

Mods close this thread already : <

 

[TiwiS]

Technically it's infinitely slower, insta = 0 cast time. anything / 0 = infinity

the limit of a function converging to a non zero positive number devided by a function converging to zero is actually infinite...



anything/0 = infinity is quite a crude statement when you consider the above statement...

 

[Bubble]

since when has reaction speed anything to do with sorcer or healer or bard class? It's called skill m8.
and if you really want to add extra variables. sorc has to press 2 buttons while bard/healer has to press one which gives you another delay of atleast 0,1sec.

^^ funny stuff

 

[Kalthorine]

Hey I have an idea how to beat Public Enemies!

Why not start a thread on FH asking how to beat them, and then surreptitiously sort out a rota of people to post inflammatory threads of varying types to annoy members of Public Enemies?

You can have various types of "irritators" here that would be perfect for such a thread...

• people who pretend (very effectively) to be stupid and make outrageously incorrect claims about abilities in-game
  
• people who make extravagant claims and whines about one Realm being better than the other
  
• people who just stir the pot by inserting monosyllabic insults and "rofl u jerk" type threads just to make others even more angry
  
• people who act all high and mighty and try to make mocking intellectual posts about the futility and immaturity of it all (er... oops! )

And then what we could do is get all Public Enemies to read it and make note of all the flamers and whiners, and that way when they see them in-game the red mist of berserk rage will take over and they will forget all their excellent tactics, and just zerg and die!

So what about it? Should we start a thread like that? Er... hmmm

 

[willowywicca]

insta-amnesia to stop the cast and then follow up with a full duration mezz, which can be spammed, will work for sorcerers as well although there cast speed of the amnesia will be 100% slower.

Insta amnesia, does not interupt a spell, it only cancels it, if you amnesia them during the first 1/2 of the spell's casting time. Since there is no interupt timer, after a spell is amnesiaed, you can cast immediately right after. Therefore the maximum delay (and likely it won't even be this maximum) that amnesia can cause to a sorc's mezz, is +50% to the cast time, or, if he manages to land his single target lull on the sorc too, the cast time will be doubled (ie if there's two maximum length delays of 50%).

As already stated, a sorc can cast mezz before a healer/bard gets into range to insta (assuming both sorc and other have perfect response times). Therefore, while insta amnesia can be used to prevent a sorc from casting ae mezz before the bard enter instaing range, it does *not* mean the bard will get to cast a casted mezz before the sorc does. Since even assuming the bard manages to get maximum length delays by amnesiaing the mezz attempts as late as possible, the sorc will still barely have time to have started casting the next mezz even before the bard gets into insta range (ie the range at which he can start casting too).

 

[haarewin]

Insta amnesia, does not interupt a spell, it only cancels it, if you amnesia them during the first 1/2 of the spell's casting time. Since there is no interupt timer, after a spell is amnesiaed, you can cast immediately right after. Therefore the maximum delay (and likely it won't even be this maximum) that amnesia can cause to a sorc's mezz, is +50% to the cast time, or, if he manages to land his single target lull on the sorc too, the cast time will be doubled (ie if there's two maximum length delays of 50%).

As already stated, a sorc can cast mezz before a healer/bard gets into range to insta (assuming both sorc and other have perfect response times). Therefore, while insta amnesia can be used to prevent a sorc from casting ae mezz before the bard enter instaing range, it does *not* mean the bard will get to cast a casted mezz before the sorc does. Since even assuming the bard manages to get maximum length delays by amnesiaing the mezz attempts as late as possible, the sorc will still barely have time to have started casting the next mezz even before the bard gets into insta range (ie the range at which he can start casting too).

yay malev, maybe he will believe it from an alb

 

[Maleg]

the limit of a function converging to a non zero positive number devided by a function converging to zero is actually infinite...



anything/0 = infinity is quite a crude statement when you consider the above statement...

But I was replying to Balbor, need to keep it crude in the hope he'll understand

 

[willowywicca]

yay malev, maybe he will believe it from an alb

That's just in a purely theoretical environment tho, in reality, things will vary greatly, for example, a sorc will rarely manage to start casting at exact maximum distance, members of the sorcs group will not stop like the sorc, but will charge the enemy thus reducing the distance between them and possibly making it possible for bard to land casted mezz on them, or not.. people don't play like robots, even if you're trying your best, your performance will vary from fight to fight and you wont always do things perfectly

 

[Helstrom]

Insofar the only thing I can think off is managing to jump on them / see them from distance, successfully nearsight oni pbuck and saitoh and get the mezz off, root dreami and pelinore and carpp, chanter/2x light eld ma pbuck and oni asap >.<
Should work, theorically x< If you're good enough

 

[Balbor]

No it won't. How did you get the 100%, cuz you have to spam 2 buttons instead of 1? -.-
Anyway can't go calculating how long it would take for a sorc or whatever to mez as response differs per time aswell as there being lag/trees/hills etc.
Such a pointless thread, I love it

instent cast speed is 0, the delv speed of AOE mezz is 3.0, the difference is 3.0, the same as the cast speed so the cast time vs Instent is 100%. Vs an instent spell, the cast speed will always be the same as the difference, so the difference is always be 100%.

Mid and Hibs often say that instent mez isn't that good, and i agree, it ruins the full mez. But the Instent Stun and Root don't. instent Mezz does have one big advange and thats it give both Mid/Hibs has 100& change to get a CC spell off unless mezz or stunned themselves.

 

[Helstrom]

Not to mention anyone properly toa'd uses ceremonial bracer (if they're support or CC at least), so sorc will feedback the insta and will possibly have time to cast it twice. Hibs only move mach5...mids go 6 tho :<

 

[saitoh]

Not to mention anyone properly toa'd uses ceremonial bracer (if they're support or CC at least), so sorc will feedback the insta and will possibly have time to cast it twice. Hibs only move mach5...mids go 6 tho :<

the insta will still interupt even if it lands on mezz feedback..

 

[Balbor]

instent is infinitely faster to cast, while a spell will be 100% slower than the instent cast.

 

[Dorin]

instent is infinitely faster to cast, while a spell will be 100% slower than the instent cast.

god sakes its instAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnt....