dont u worry my fine friend the war is not one not yetDigi said:Let's hope this is the wake up call alb's need to get back into rvr Boreing vs the same hib day in day out.
Tesla Monkor said:Taking relics from Albion isn't going to make more albs come RvR. Quite the opposite, but I guess you didn't think of that.
Hibs rule RvR on Prydwen, that's not exactly a secret. Difference is that if you keep smacking up the other realms, they'll stop caring. I predict the albs will go back to PvEing, like they always do.
Nausilus^^ said:underpopulated my *biiiiiiiip*
keep thinking like that after ure mum puts u to bed and we get busy with it babieghTesla Monkor said:Taking relics from Albion isn't going to make more albs come RvR. Quite the opposite, but I guess you didn't think of that.
Hibs rule RvR on Prydwen, that's not exactly a secret. Difference is that if you keep smacking up the other realms, they'll stop caring. I predict the albs will go back to PvEing, like they always do.
Sinnica said:population doesnt really matter if you use good tic-tacs
Puppet said:It where the bugged bainshees (2-3?) who took the relic. Not the 80-100 Hibs who took 2 keeps, breached the Milegate and brought the relic-home.
You had 3 chances to defend: Surs, Beno, Milegate. At all those 3 situations you would have a tactical advantage and could have whiped the Hibs. You failed at Surs (obviously that one was hard to defend), you failed at Beno (if you didnt see that coming....) and you could port straight to Beno till door1 was breached.
You failed at the Milegate (where you had the tactical advantage of both heigth and only 1 way of entering for Hibs.
You let it come to trying to defend a shrine with 3 entrances where the more Hibs could easily surround you and you had 0 chance of escaping or surviving or even putting up a fight good enough to wipe the Hibs out.
I dont know if the Bainshee Frontal-nukes should go through walls; eg. is it a feature or a bug. I dont know; and personally I dont care. But the loss of your relic isnt the result of it; its a total shortcoming on your side to defend properly and use tactics and Hibs on the other hand worked well together.
Dont downplay our performance of taking 2 keeps + a relic at primetime because 2-3 bainshees did something which is or isnt cheating. Only makes me think of you as a sore looser. Accept your loss; you get em back anyhow (be it clustering or some lame alarmclock-raid).
Puppet said:Dont downplay our performance of taking 2 keeps + a relic at primetime because 2-3 bainshees did something which is or isnt cheating. Only makes me think of you as a sore looser. Accept your loss; you get em back anyhow (be it clustering or some lame alarmclock-raid).
VidX said:Sorry Tes, but that's exactly what Hibs were saying about the Mids and Albs just prior to the NF patch, and what we got back was:
"haha QQ more, we take your keeps to get you to come out! QQ n00b!"
rr tonight was fast because in imo albs just need some postive vibsCadelin said:What are we gratzing hibs for? Smelly tree huggers
Relic raids nowadays are rubbish. In OF they were quick and any realm could generally pull them off. Nowadays relic raids are long and drawn out and you can generally tell along way in advance the outcome. If you can't defend the first keep at prime time why is there anymore reason to defend the second or third or MG or relic temple?
After it was clear albs couldn't even take 1 keep to get their relic back it would only be a matter of time before they lost their other relic.
And to the person that said that we should overlook the 2-3 "exploiters/cheaters/feature users". Why exactly? They were using it because it was interupting/damaging opponents, how do you know you would have not failed without them?
Vilje said:....The fact that the fighting in OF happened in Hib was a random thing. It just began there, and stayed there. When there was a keep fight I recall this was mostly at DC, and it was not effecting rvr in such a scale in which it does in NF......
Cadelin said:Nowadays relic raids are long and drawn out and you can generally tell along way in advance the outcome. If you can't defend the first keep at prime time why is there anymore reason to defend the second or third or MG or relic temple?
It was clear it was a rr the second the other towe on surs went.Most albs wrote off surs the minute they got a guardspam and tried to go benowyc, however /who 50 gave less than 100 people prior to the alarm going out, and a large number of people i tried to PM wouldnt leave the raids they were on, be it toa or otherwise.Aran Thule said:I expected to get Surs, by having Eras and all the albs up in beno we had a good chance of getting to the keep undetected.
(When did the alarm go up?)
When we found the keep was low level and the towers around it were unclaimed it was a bonus, and with albs unable to port to it i wasnt suprised that it fell quickly.
Beno on the other hand i was expecting a serious defence as they would know that was our next target.
(Could you port there still, was hoping having surs/eras/berks taken it would disrupt the porting chain)
After Beno feel we were expecting the milegate to be heavily defended, or that mids would have mustered and been waiting for it to open.
But it was empty, all the defenders had moved to the relic keep which although it has guards isnt the most defencable of structures.
As for why you should defend them, at its peak i think the BG had 100 people, im sure that there were more then that in albion at the time.
Defending means that it takes the attacking force longer, allowing the defending realm to recover from thier initial suprise and organise things better.
Morale plays a strong part as is cooperation amounst the people making up your forces.
That is half the battle, if people are defeatest then they make it harder for everyone else, and your fighting an uphill battle.
Puppet said:It where the bugged bainshees (2-3?) who took the relic. Not the 80-100 Hibs who took 2 keeps, breached the Milegate and brought the relic-home.
You had 3 chances to defend: Surs, Beno, Milegate. At all those 3 situations you would have a tactical advantage and could have whiped the Hibs. You failed at Surs (obviously that one was hard to defend), you failed at Beno (if you didnt see that coming....) and you could port straight to Beno till door1 was breached.
You failed at the Milegate (where you had the tactical advantage of both heigth and only 1 way of entering for Hibs.
You let it come to trying to defend a shrine with 3 entrances where the more Hibs could easily surround you and you had 0 chance of escaping or surviving or even putting up a fight good enough to wipe the Hibs out.
I dont know if the Bainshee Frontal-nukes should go through walls; eg. is it a feature or a bug. I dont know; and personally I dont care. But the loss of your relic isnt the result of it; its a total shortcoming on your side to defend properly and use tactics and Hibs on the other hand worked well together.
Dont downplay our performance of taking 2 keeps + a relic at primetime because 2-3 bainshees did something which is or isnt cheating. Only makes me think of you as a sore looser. Accept your loss; you get em back anyhow (be it clustering or some lame alarmclock-raid).