Politics General Election 2017

[Bodhi]

That's utterly, utterly, amazingly retarded. (Or you're simply lying)

You wouldn't take a massive pay rise because, proportionally, HMRC would take a bit extra in taxes from your pay packet? You're talking shite.


Boss: Hi Bodhi. We want to increase your wage from 55 to 68 grand. You will have to pay a bit extra tax on the stuff over 60 grand, but you'll still take home a fair few thousand pounds more. Happy?

Bodhi: No thanks. I'm so bitter that I'd have to pay a bit more proportional tax on the extra money that I'd rather not receive that extra money in the first place.

Boss: Ooookayyy. It looks like I've made a mistake. You're clearly too retarded for that position. In fact, I'll be reviewing your position when it comes the next round of redundancies - because your special needs have been clearly sailing under the radar...

I said I would think twice if it meant I was no better off. Bit of a difference to what you are suggesting.

 

[Bodhi]

If.

But the if isn't really borne out in the real world. It's an outdated model that doesn't seem to work. In fact, it's not been working in our low-tax economy - so that millions feel disenfranchised and we can't fund our services properly.

And you won't even coutenance higher company taxes. Fucking rofl.

Corporation tax receipts rocket after rate is cut...and they’re up 26pc since the Brexit vote | This is Money

 

[Bodhi]

Just out of interest do you work in sales or marketing? oO

Neither

 

[Exioce]

I said I would think twice if it meant I was no better off. Bit of a difference to what you are suggesting.

If you're worried that you'd be no better off earning more money because you'd be in a higher tax bracket... You don't understand tax brackets, or are willfully misrepresenting them.

 

[Scouse]

Corporation tax receipts rocket after rate is cut...and they’re up 26pc since the Brexit vote | This is Money

1) Corporation tax <> Personal Taxation. Nice to see you mixing up the two (and of course, if people are taking Divs, 'cause it's cheap, rather than paying through personal tax then what's the *overall* tax take)
2) "That was 44 per cent more than in 2010 when corporation tax was 28 per cent." - I wonder what was going on from 2007-2011? Not the worst financial crisis in memory? I dunno...

 

[Scouse]

I said I would think twice if it meant I was no better off. Bit of a difference to what you are suggesting.

So, a totally imaginary scenario that has never existed in time and space: A pay rise that means you are no better off.


It seems that your grasp of financial and tax realities is tenuous at best. I mean: you actually wrote that. A pay rise that makes you no better off because it goes to HMRC. Which never happens. It wasn't something you typed by accident. It was an argument you used - nonsense contained in every single letter.

 

[Bodhi]

So, a totally imaginary scenario that has never existed in time and space: A pay rise that means you are no better off.


It seems that your grasp of financial and tax realities is tenuous at best. I mean: you actually wrote that. A pay rise that makes you no better off because it goes to HMRC. Which never happens. It wasn't something you typed by accident. It was an argument you used - nonsense contained in every single letter.

Nonsense like suggesting Corporation Tax should be paid on revenue you mean? That sort of nonsense?

Anyway remember in the 1970's the top rate of tax was 90%, not a time I thought we'd ever go back to - but as the rest of Corbyn and McDonnell's policies come from that era, I would be the slightest bit shocked to see that come back. And if it did, we would see a LOT of people restructuring their wages to avoid it. So again, HMRC would lose out.

Anyway, given the below, it might be sesnible to leave taxes exactly where they are

HMRC’s multi-billion tax ‘bonanza’ sets new record

 

[Scouse]

Nonsense like suggesting Corporation Tax should be paid on revenue you mean? That sort of nonsense?

Didn't actually suggest that. I know exactly how corp. tax works because I pay it.

 

[Gwadien]

How did 114 Tory MPs look at Boris Johnson and think 'Yes, he'll make a good PM.'

The fuck.

 

[DaGaffer]

How did 114 Tory MPs look at Boris Johnson and think 'Yes, he'll make a good PM.'

The fuck.

No, they looked at him and said "Yes, he'll make an electable PM". "Good" has fuck all to do with it, like I said in an earlier post, Boris has brand recognition, and up against Corbyn that's all they need.

Ain't British politics in tip-top condition?

 

[Scouse]

Ain't British politics in tip-top condition?

It's a reflection of the population.

I don't think it's much worse than anywhere else in the world - other than they hide it better. (Well, of course, countries with better educational attainment levels seem to have proportionally more sensible governments but...)

 

[caLLous]

It's disgusting that the best candidate (and the only one who isn't a lunatic) has scraped through the first round in 7th.

Also: OK, everyone. I think it’s time I told my Boris Johnson story. It’s a story about the time as foreign secretary where Johnson committed a straightforward resigning offence, got caught out, then got away with it.

 

[DaGaffer]

It's disgusting that the best candidate (and the only one who isn't a lunatic) has scraped through the first round in 7th.

Also: OK, everyone. I think it’s time I told my Boris Johnson story. It’s a story about the time as foreign secretary where Johnson committed a straightforward resigning offence, got caught out, then got away with it.

This is hardly news; there are plenty of televised quotes of Johnson supporting free movement; I remember watching some archeology show on the beeb where he directly compared the foreign labourers who built ancient Athens to the Poles working in London (he was mayor at the time) and how brilliant it was and how important to London.

Nothing Johnson has endorsed as Brexit policy reflects his true views (even more so than Trump), and it's really easy to prove it, but it just doesn't seem to matter any more.

 

[Gwadien]

Personally, I can't wait until we have freedom of movement with all the middle eastern countries out there in return for a trade deal.

Job will love it.

 

[Job]

Feel free, let them in and we'll vote you out.
The biggest anti immigration voters are recent immigrants.

 

[Yoni]

Feel free, let them in and we'll vote you out.
The biggest anti immigration voters are recent immigrants.

and white middle aged tradesmen obv...

 

[Gwadien]

and white middle aged tradesmen obv...

No, everyone but him, he Is simply following the... trend?

 

[Job]

Always the intellectual snobbery.
The very heart of liberalism.

 

[Gwadien]

Knuckle dragging, brain washed idiocy.

The heart of Job.

 

[Job]

Im afraid you are the brainwashed one.
Teachers are the most institutionalised people in the country.

 

[Yoni]

Im afraid you are the brainwashed one.
Teachers are the most institutionalised people in the country.

Just wondering where you get the intellectual snobbery from? You obviously did not read the post I made a few months where I stated that I started my working life as a production line operative ie on the factory floor...

 

[Job]

Lol..
Ive mixed with the commoners.
Ive seen them eat cake.

 

[Gwadien]

Lol..
Ive mixed with the commoners.
Ive seen them eat cake.

Considering that I am aware that Government cuts have an infinite worse impact on the lives of the 'commoners' than immigration does.

Yeah, I think we know more about 'commoners' than you.

Don't forget, you're the one who ridicules the poor.

 

[Job]

I ridicule lazy, cheating, entitled
Which of course includes all classes.

Theres a shed load of middle class , feckless offspring around here, but the path from their free lunch to us paying for it is not easy to work out.

 

[Yoni]

I ridicule lazy, cheating, entitled
Which of course includes all classes.

Theres a shed load of middle class , feckless offspring around here, but the path from their free lunch to us paying for it is not easy to work out.

Lol..
Ive mixed with the commoners.
Ive seen them eat cake.

Gosh.... please can you stop assuming that I view people the way You do.... the fact you called my friends and colleagues commoners says more about you than it does about me. In fact It increases the growing pool of evidence that you are nothing more than an closed minded little scrote *chuckles*

 

[Scouse]

Lol..
Ive mixed with the commoners.
Ive seen them eat cake.

What is the approved route from poor child to self-improved person? The route where you don't get to call them an elitist cunt?*

@Yoni's backstory is well known. The girl did good. But she's not a commoner any more?

What about me? (Very) working class parents, dad killed early, alcoholic mother, *other* family problems and doing very well through own hard work. Am I no longer a commoner? An elitist cunt, because I (correctly, as it happens) understand the value of education, sentence structure, context and meaning what you say?

Your rant against yons is the rant of a loser. Someone who didn't try and whined when polish people took 'er jerbs.


*or is everyone who did well for themselves against the odds always a wanker?

 

[Scouse]

Gosh....

To be fair yons - you've undermined my argument by using "gosh" in a sentence

 

[Job]

It was a joke..get over it.

 

[Yoni]

To be fair yons - you've undermined my argument by using "gosh" in a sentence

Must have been a few years or more

 

[Job]

To be fair yons - you've undermined my argument by using "gosh" in a sentence

I let that one slide..it was just too obvious.