Politics General Election 2017

[Bodhi]

The thing that is leading me to vote labour is that at least, on the whole, they live by their convictions. Honest fuckwits, rather than bent fuckwits.

So does Job. Voting for him would be about as sensible.

 

[Raven]

You don't have Andrea Leadsom hanging around your area...

 

[Wij]

You don't have Andrea Leadsom hanging around your area...

 

[Vae]

Tbh the most statesman like politician at the moment seems to be Cable - not that he has a hope in hell though!

 

[Gwadien]

I'm pretty sure this will be an unpopular opinion (from me? Never) but I really do think there is an argument that, far from MP's being overpaid, they aren't actually paid enough. If we take an MP's salary to be 80 - 100k, the best and the brightest coming out of university will head straight to the City and earn 5 times that, leaving us with muppets, authoritarians and a whole catalogue of vested interests.

Pay them more but ban them from having any other forms of income would be a step in the right direction imo, especially for Cabinet ministers. It would be nice to have smart people in the HoC without lobbying from their friends.

I completely agree.

However...

This could be applied to all public sector work - the prospect of 'helping your country' is the one that attracts people to these kind of roles, however, nationalism is wearing off.

I have a cousin who works for security for Santander - very high up, earns around 6 figures, however, he was saying that if he got a job with MI5 (which was a possibility) he'd be looking at a 60-70% pay cut.

 

[Gwadien]

JUST CALL ME @BloodOmen

 

[Ormorof]

I'm pretty sure this will be an unpopular opinion (from me? Never) but I really do think there is an argument that, far from MP's being overpaid, they aren't actually paid enough. If we take an MP's salary to be 80 - 100k, the best and the brightest coming out of university will head straight to the City and earn 5 times that, leaving us with muppets, authoritarians and a whole catalogue of vested interests.

Pay them more but ban them from having any other forms of income would be a step in the right direction imo, especially for Cabinet ministers. It would be nice to have smart people in the HoC without lobbying from their friends.

Isnt that why they got paid in the first place? So it wouldnt just be rich people that could afford to be MPs?

 

[Job]

In 2 years time, we'll be looking back at this Corbyn hysteria and questioning the sanity of all involved.

 

[Gwadien]

In 2 years time, we'll be looking back at this Right-wing hysteria and questioning the sanity of all involved.

fixed

 

[BloodOmen]

Just unlocked the hidden Artifact Appearance on my alt warlock

 

[Raven]

General election, please.

May faces calls for Tory leadership vote

 

[Raven]

It's not only strong and stable, its calm now too.

 

[BloodOmen]

The British Drea

 

[old.user4556]

Just watching the news this morning.

WHAT IS GOING ON.

 

[caLLous]

 

[dysfunction]

Just watching the news this morning.

WHAT IS GOING ON.

About what?

 

[old.user4556]

About what?

I DON'T KNOW.

 

[BloodOmen]

Well if there's one thing the Tories have proven while failing to deal with all of this - they couldn't organize a piss up in a fucking brewery.

 

[Job]

You are simply reading fluff news, this is the banter, press releases as each side jostle for impact to their agenda.

 

[BloodOmen]

Well, if poll results are anything to go off

Labour pull five points clear of the Tories, as voters prefer Corbyn to May

The Conservatives are fucked the moment an election is called.

 

[Wij]

The UK is fucked.

 

[Ormorof]

Even the Tory MEPs voted against the brexit negotiations moving forward

 

[Job]

Now senior judges are calling for May to release secret legal advice the government has asked for in relation to turning the ref result around in the interests of the country.
I have always said it will never happen, theyre just going to wait until brexiteers lose interest.

 

[caLLous]

Ruth Davidson said earlier that being a politician is "about delivering for the country, it's not and should never be about private ambition". So why the fuck did May put her own name in massive letters on the side of the Tory campaign bus and then get into bed with the DUP because she was so desperate to cling on to power? What a load of rubbish.

 

[Shagrat]

Ruth Davidson said earlier that being a politician is "about delivering for the country, it's not and should never be about private ambition". So why the fuck did May put her own name in massive letters on the side of the Tory campaign bus and then get into bed with the DUP because she was so desperate to cling on to power? What a load of rubbish.

well that DUP deal could really end up biting her in the ass with what's going on with Bombardier at the moment.

 

[Raven]

Uh ohhhhhh.

MP received £165,000 from trade union

Trade union with 10 members, gives chairman of the Labour party 16.5k for each member.

He denies any wrong doing.

Righto, nothing to see here then...

 

[Scouse]

He denies any wrong doing.

Not backing him because at face value, as presented, it seems fishy.

I'm not sure how trade union officials get paid however. He was leader of that trade union for 18 years - so averaged out he got paid £9166 per year by the union. If the parliamentary watchdog has investigated and cleared him of any wrongdoing then I would like auntie to spell out how they get paid and if this is anything particularly out of the ordinary. It does appear that there's a long-standing precedent of unions helping with the purchase of properties for senior officials as part of their renumeration packages.

Looking through the official report here, yeah, to me it looks a little fishy, but not shockingly so given the precedent of housing help and the fact that, as a company owner, when average-salaried-joe looks at how companies renumerate their owners they are inevitably shocked and start calling it bent.

Is this a non-story (initially reported by the murdoch press) by someone trying to tar Corbyn by association - because, shock, union officials get renumerated by the unions for their work?

 

[Wij]

remuneration

 

[Wij]

remuneration

And to be fair he left the role to become an MP. Perfect fit tbh.

 

[Scouse]

remuneration

They don't get recounted regularly? - like his votes