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That £300 adaptor is looking necessary due to the relatively small range of lenses on offer.
 

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Oh hell yeah, the standard Sony ones are ropey. It's well recognised that Sony launched this body with the lenses as an afterthought.
 

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My camera shop working mate has listened to my woes, complaints, threats and begging...and has come up with the following plan: because he's a good mate, but mostly because he wanted me to get the fuck out of his shop he said "here, you speshul person you, borrow this Fuji X100 for a week. It's everything you claim to want even if you don't really know it yet, so shut up and go have a play. Next week (did I mention he's awesome?) I turn it in and take away a Fuji XPro-1 for a week. The week after, I take away the Sony NEX-7 with the 19mm Sigma for a week. After that, he wants a report of what I've been doing with the cameras, pictures, words, etc.

First ever shot taken with the Fuji X100, edited a little in a random RAW handler for Linux I installed (darktable) and square cropped as I was faffing.

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edit: as you can prolly tell: top pic taken with camera phone, bottom with the X100 + darktable editing.
 
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NEX-7 has been on my next camera list for a while...
Have you handled one yet Gaff? Having had one in my hands extensively yesterday, I must say it's actually rather small. it had a big tamron zoom on it which completely dwarfed the thing. The controls did somehow suit me though.
 

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NEX-7 has been on my next camera list for a while...

It's hard to beat.

Have you handled one yet Gaff? Having had one in my hands extensively yesterday, I must say it's actually rather small. it had a big tamron zoom on it which completely dwarfed the thing. The controls did somehow suit me though.

All mirrorless cameras are small, that's sort of the point of them and that's the biggest tick in the box for me. DSLRS (particularly alloy bodied ones) are big heavy buggers where as a mirrorless gives you DSLR quality in a small package.

The big zooms like the one you mention partially defeat the purpose for me, I think i'll be sticking with a couple of primes.
 

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I know they're small, but having handled the NEX-7 for about an hour I was wondering what to do with my pinkies tbh. Currently have a Fuji X100 in the house which is a lot chunkier but also doesn't have the grip I'd ideally like although more than the NEX. A DSLR being big and heavy is exactly the reason I don't want one: a mate has two 5D2's, a lady friend has the 1D and another mate has the Leica M9 (not the same chunkiness but you get the idea). They're all waay too big for my purposes, and indeed as you say, I would also not stick a big zoom on a (small) mirrorless...I mean why?

My criteria are: small (must fit in a jacket pocket), fast as can be, small (but preferably large aperture) 35mm equiv lens (ie with the NEX-7 I may choose the 19mm Sigma over the 24mm Zeiss because the latter is so huge). Will be able to tell you more about this in a couple weeks.
 

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yeah man, I like those things a lot. I also like the PEN's, G series, lumix, whatnot. Reason I'd not want that Sony is because of the massive plastic barrel that comes sliding out when you turn it on (ooh err). If it *wasn't* a zoom, I'd consider it hella seriously, but it would never be a prime because Sonu hasn't the market for that I guess.
 

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I'm not surprised. I've had that monitor for a thousand years and never calibrated it!
 

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http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/07/canon-eos-m-specs/

Looks great in principle, love the simple design and thank JESUS ANNOINTED that canon went for a mirrorless mount with the option for EF mount lenses via adaptor; there was talk that they may have made M lenses only with EF and EF-S lenses not working at all. A popup flash would have been good and the old sensor doesn't wash well with me at all so it's not for me, but for Joe Snapshot it'll be fine.

I wonder what the price will be....
 

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The crop tool in Photoshop CS6 is *epic*. In a different league to its predecessor, it used to be a real pain to use.
 

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They basically took the old one out behind the shed, bashed it on the head and started from scratch. I've not used the one in Lightroom much but I understand the new CS6 crop tool is very similar to that. It can also be non-destructive.
 

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Not intending to buy one but it's nice that they've put a tripod mount on the adapter, should help no end with balance even with shorter lenses.

I didn't realise there was a correlation between aesthetics and performance. Except for Nikon lenses, which are fugly and shit ofc. :)
 

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Doesn't attaching such a large heavy lens to essentially nothing make it near impossible to use effectively handheld?
 

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Not at all.

(that's not my camera / lens btw)
 

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