enough antigrapple whine.
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Novamir
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katt: im not missing the point
stubbe: stop avoiding the issue
others: shut up
scenario #1. 2 pbers in box. trying to pbae. shammy runs in to pb dis PURELY for interrupt. sure it has the snare component, but in this fight it won't matter at all, this pbae dis is purely for the interrupt.
scenario #2: 3 healers chain casting 20,023 uber spells. chanter uses Dps debuff PURELY for interrupt. (also to reduce healer melee damage THROUGH TeH FLooR (owned stubbe no kills for you jeje.))
you see? no fucking difference. stop shammy pbae dis interrupting and stop ae dps debuff interrupting, that would be the fairest, but until then, stop the QQ.
and this still isn't the same as the fucking exploit to not get grappled. duh!
stubbe: stop avoiding the issue
others: shut up
scenario #1. 2 pbers in box. trying to pbae. shammy runs in to pb dis PURELY for interrupt. sure it has the snare component, but in this fight it won't matter at all, this pbae dis is purely for the interrupt.
scenario #2: 3 healers chain casting 20,023 uber spells. chanter uses Dps debuff PURELY for interrupt. (also to reduce healer melee damage THROUGH TeH FLooR (owned stubbe no kills for you jeje.))
you see? no fucking difference. stop shammy pbae dis interrupting and stop ae dps debuff interrupting, that would be the fairest, but until then, stop the QQ.
and this still isn't the same as the fucking exploit to not get grappled. duh!
Makes it even harder to keep a caster alive..
stubbe
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Novamir said:
I already admitted that in practice the both are quite similiar. However, as I explained in my post pbae-disease interrupt is clearly a design-choice, a feature if you wanna call it that. Dps-debuff is a bug that is the result of an oversight, along with grapple and it's countermeasure.
katt!
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yeah! because a instant dps-debuff is not an instant debuff!Harle said:Funny you quote 1.51 patch-notes, when the spell in its current form was given to enchanters in 1.62 - maybe the fact that it interrupts is a design-choice then
im so fucking smart. you are not bug abusing hibs. not at all.
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Aussie said:
Is there anything in rvr atm besides mids vs hibs (no mobile rps in epic counted ofc)??
nol
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Powerslave said:
It's amazing how you managed to get all of that out of blah blah blah
This is why NP rule, because they truly see the inner parts of the cosmos, while the rest of us only see b l a hOh, that and the fact that you guys gave the world AHA!
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stubbe said:
how is grapple a bug? i grapple fastbelly he should stand still for 10 secs i stand for 12, that happens when i grapple anyone, its come to the point that when we fight you, you grapple more than us cos its not even worth the effort to try grapple a savage
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pbaoe insta disease is a cheesily low timered version of aoe castable disease and interrupts for the same reason that the instant versions of CC interrupt.
Chanter dps debuff is an insta aoe debuff on a 4s timer built on the same model as the attack speed debuffs and stat debuffs which were fixed in 1.62 (I think? or was it earlier) to not interrupt at all.
They are different, pbaoe instadisease is cheesy yes (put it on a 5m timer like my mezz actually no that's cruel, but 30s wouldn't go amiss) but it's not a debuff. It's disease. It's a snare and healing effectiveness reducer that happens to debuff strength . It's normally a castable spell, this is just a "cba to give non-robe-casters quickcast" instacheeze version.
Chanter dps debuff is an insta aoe debuff on a 4s timer built on the same model as the attack speed debuffs and stat debuffs which were fixed in 1.62 (I think? or was it earlier) to not interrupt at all.
They are different, pbaoe instadisease is cheesy yes (put it on a 5m timer like my mezz
actually no that's cruel, but 30s wouldn't go amiss) but it's not a debuff. It's disease. It's a snare and healing effectiveness reducer that happens to debuff strength . It's normally a castable spell, this is just a "cba to give non-robe-casters quickcast" instacheeze version.
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Flimgoblin said:pbaoe insta disease is a cheesily low timered version of aoe castable disease and interrupts for the same reason that the instant versions of CC interrupt.
Chanter dps debuff is an insta aoe debuff on a 4s timer built on the same model as the attack speed debuffs and stat debuffs which were fixed in 1.62 (I think? or was it earlier) to not interrupt at all.
They are different, pbaoe instadisease is cheesy yes (put it on a 5m timer like my mezz
dps debuff ain't aoe for a start...
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Flimgoblin said:pbaoe insta disease is a cheesily low timered version of aoe castable disease and interrupts for the same reason that the instant versions of CC interrupt.
Chanter dps debuff is an insta aoe debuff on a 4s timer built on the same model as the attack speed debuffs and stat debuffs which were fixed in 1.62 (I think? or was it earlier) to not interrupt at all.
They are different, pbaoe instadisease is cheesy yes (put it on a 5m timer like my mezz
ok, ill accept that Dis is kind of a form of CC, but pbae instant dis used for interrupting in the pb box is just a annoying as dps debuff used to interrupt casting classes. neither are being used primarily for their 'written' uses. it could be argued dis is being used for what its meant to be, but i still think pbae dis on 9(?) sec timer is ridiculous, and when the dps debuff is fixed to not interrupt i'll whine s000 much ;|
