Politics Election 2019

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by Yoni, Oct 30, 2019.

Who will you vote for 2019 UK GE

Poll closed Dec 12, 2019.
  1. Con

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  2. Lab

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. Lib Dem

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  4. Brexit

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Other

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  1. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Its not exactly hilarious, but at least its politics creeping back to normal.
     
  2. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

  3. Yoni

    Yoni Cockb@dger / Klotehommel FH Subscriber

  4. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter

     
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  5. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    No.
    No one actually gives a shit about anyone taking beak.
     
  6. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Apart from coke turning people into unsufferable arseholes it does call death and devestation in producing countries.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Legalissseee
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  8. fettoken

    fettoken I am a FH squatter

    Legalise MDMA!
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  9. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Legalise everything, regulate everything, prohibition is a failure.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 2
  10. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Yep. In countries where legalisation of drugs has taken place death and physical harm goes down, criminal activity goes down, tax take goes up.

    Humans are gonna do what humans are gonna do. Regulate it, make it safer, reduce harm across the population, in the production line, use new tax to treat as health issues rather than prison.

    We've clear experience now that shows, clearly, this is the correct course of action rather than the failed strategies we've been following.
     
  11. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Follow Portugal.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    We legalise alcohol...its not going too well.
     
  13. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Well, America tried to ban alcohol, and that didn't go down too well.

    Let's just remember that all the death connected to drugs (IE not by direct use) is purely down to the criminal element which is purely down to the fact it's illegal.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  14. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter

    So... legalising class A drugs wouldn't ever lead to overdoses?
     
  15. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    it’s going fine.
     
  16. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Fixed
     
  17. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Yeah, so?
     
  18. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

     
  19. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Overdoses mainly happen because people aren't fully aware what's in the drug in the first place.

    I just find it amusing that at music festivals they allow people to test drugs to make sure it's safe as possible, but we can't apply that logic to mainstream society?
     
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  20. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    May be attacking my own position a bit here but it's worth remembering that the biggest cause of OD in the US is legal Opiates.
     
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  21. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Also education on drugs is especially bad, it -still- consists of IF YOU TAKE THIS, YOU SHALL DIE!

    Where in actual fact you should take that line but also teach how to take drugs safely.

    I'm sure 'IF YOU TAKE THIS YOU SHALL DIE' hasn't saved many lives, but I'm sure the advice given to me by a hardened druggie of 'take everything in halves' would save way more lives.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  22. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    It leads to less death.

    As has been proven by countries that have done it.


    Plus, cheaper, not criminalising people (how's that workin' out for us?), people seek treatment, yadda yadda yadda.

    "Oh noes! People might die!"

    Newsflash: they already are and we know how to help them.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  23. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    @Embattle this one isn't about Brexit, fancy engaging in discussion?
     
  24. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Come on @Embattle. It leads to less death, as we know full well because of the countries that have done it.

    Please provide evidence to the contrary rather than resort to your childish "disagree" because you don't want to admit you're wrong.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  25. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    • Agree Agree x 1
  26. Embattle

    Embattle FH is my second home

    Your comment about education is bollocks, people still do things they've been educated about that is a risk/dangerous as people over the last 20+ years who've taken up smoking proves.


    I'm not the one making a statement, perhaps you should proved some long term high quality evidence first.

    Let me make this absolute unshakable statement, I don't want even more recreational drugs legalised ever as it'll solve nothing in reality.

    I'm all for giving more help to users and decreasing prison times but on the other hand increasing prison time for dealers.

    Regarding the Opioid Crisis - I used to support legalizing all drugs. Then the opioid epidemic happened.
     
  27. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    It's funny how you disagree with me, yet you completely agree with me.

    I did say education is bollocks, that's why we should educate people the reality of drugs and teach them how to be safe.
     
  28. Yoni

    Yoni Cockb@dger / Klotehommel FH Subscriber


    View: https://youtu.be/imYebujz5uY


    I would subscribe to the BBC as a UK national living elsewhere if it was possible :/

    in Sweden they scrapped the license fee and it is funded now out of taxation which is has turned out well - it means the fee dodgers can’t dodge and there was no noticeable increase in my tax to account for it either
     
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  29. Ormorof

    Ormorof FH is my second home

    Did same in Finland i pay like 4 euros a month not too shabby
     
  30. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    The days of traditional mass media are dying, they are losing their ability to spread agenda and shape our thoughts.
    Social media is now the stomping ground for those who want control the conversation, I have practically disconnected from the TV in the front room and this is a large and growing trend.
    It does mean I have be so aware of youtubes ability to create a bubble of thought as it feeds you content that fits your world view, but thats been the norm for the mainstream channels for decades.

    Dangerous but enlightening times, but thats thats makes life worth living.

    Anyway back to some guy living in a van.
     

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