dmg question

Jarl

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Was out running in Emain and ran into a infill who i started to play with and hes friend poped , anyhow i spank em 2 while a third infill adds and by now my stun imunity is gone so after kiling infill nr2 i turn to the 3 thats messed and start spanking just to get DFed wich ofc is expected, whats not expected tho is that the infill dish out 1000dmg befor the stun is over.
So the question is, is doing 1K + dmg while stunned from a "free" stun style OK ? Keep that the infill on top of this have tools liek dot, con debuff that rips 500+ hps away and yada yada.

Simple question not a whine, personaly i do not think assassins should get a nerf or so cus there high dmg.

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I have MAX af + max af bonus
 

Aussie

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so you killed 2 ppl and were about to start on the 3th infil and you complain about his 1k dmg he did while dragonfanged?

aren't you funny?
 

Jarl

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Nope, I _ask_ if thats right, that they can do 1K+ dmg on 660+af chain with max resist in so few seconds.

Personaly i dont, i think the assassin classes should be deppending on there CS line to kill, not head to head insane deffensive capabilities + dmg. But thats just how I and maby some other think assassins should be.
 

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Personally, I'm waiting to see when Jarl decides to post an "Albs zerg ffs" remark in this thread. :cheers:
 

Jarl

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did not mean head to head that way, meant that assassins should be required to use there tools for example CS stuff to get a upperhand and hopefully win, not just play mercifill or SZ and rush in unstealthd and pwn
 

bult

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1k in 9 sec is not anything special imo lots of classes can do more then that.
You killed 2 infils out of 3 that was hitting you and then you say THEY are overpowered? :eek: sounds abit wierd tbh. Oh and yeah dragonfang is overpowered but infil damage is NOT.
 

judas

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poor man getting killed by 3infils :(
its sick to see any class do 1k dmg on only 9secs >_<
 

rvn

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well its frustrateing for skalds (wich imo is a solo class) to fight infils, basicly the infil gets free 1500 dmg (debuff, and then evade stun). and removeing la/dw/cd for stealthers would be nice, then they would rely on other things than just unstealth and F8, DF+DS (or db + garrote/ah). - this would make it more challeingeing -> less stealthers :p -> more options for those who want to solo to do so.
 

Nalistah

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Aussie said:
so you killed 2 ppl and were about to start on the 3th infil and you complain about his 1k dmg he did while dragonfanged?

aren't you funny?

Why does it matter that he killed 2 before? even if he killed 50 infils before, its not very l33t with assassins that deals 1000dmg with his 9sec stun after evade, on a light tank in chain.
Well well, the nerf is inc... after nerf they will only be able to deal 600-700 dmg while the enemy is stunned with teh skillful dragonfang, WOHO :m00:
 

Indica

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nob, coming from someone who got there rps from being overpowered LA abuser, cock!!!
 

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bult said:
1k in 9 sec is not anything special imo lots of classes can do more then that.
You killed 2 infils out of 3 that was hitting you and then you say THEY are overpowered? :eek: sounds abit wierd tbh. Oh and yeah dragonfang is overpowered but infil damage is NOT.

Lol Enchanters do like 1k dmg every 0.0000000000001 sec
 

Funkdocta

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Aussie said:
Oh Really? which one of the 2 is the SoloClass and which one is the GroupClass?

Well the inf aint a solo class thats for sure. :)
 

SethNaket

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Jarl said:
yada yada

So the question is, is doing 1K + dmg while stunned from a "free" stun style OK ?

yada yada


No, I think they should do this kind of damage:

[02:25:50] Your attack speed increases.
[02:25:51] Your attacks gain a ferocious edge!
[02:25:53] You enter combat mode and target [Chrii]
[02:25:53] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Fist!
[02:25:53] You perform your Kelgor's Fist perfectly. (+152)
[02:25:53] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 392 (-75) damage!
[02:25:53] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 183 (-35) damage!
[02:25:54] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Wrath!
[02:25:54] You are now preparing to perform a Kelgor's Fist style as a backup for Kelgor's Wrath!
[02:25:54] You perform your Kelgor's Wrath perfectly. (+154)
[02:25:54] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 364 (-69) damage!
[02:25:54] You are hit for 57 damage.
[02:25:54] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 211 (-40) damage!
[02:25:54] You are hit for 64 damage.
[02:25:54] Chrii cannot seem to move!
[02:25:55] You must perform the Kelgor's Fist style before this one!
[02:25:56] Buffmongo casts a spell!
[02:25:56] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Fist!
[02:25:56] You perform your Kelgor's Fist perfectly. (+109)
[02:25:56] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 282 (-54) damage!
[02:25:56] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 212 (-40) damage!

1644 dmg in 3 seconds.

Or this:

[02:26:16] Your attack speed increases.
[02:26:16] Your attacks gain a ferocious edge!
[02:26:18] You enter combat mode and target [Chrii]
[02:26:18] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Fist!
[02:26:18] You perform your Kelgor's Fist perfectly. (+119)
[02:26:18] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 307 (-59) damage!
[02:26:18] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 216 (-41) damage!
[02:26:18] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 203 (-39) damage!
[02:26:19] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Wrath!
[02:26:19] You are now preparing to perform a Kelgor's Fist style as a backup for Kelgor's Wrath!
[02:26:20] You perform your Kelgor's Wrath perfectly. (+169)
[02:26:20] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 399 (-76) damage!
[02:26:20] You critical hit for an additional 155 damage!
[02:26:20] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 163 (-31) damage!
[02:26:20] Chrii can't have that effect again yet!
[02:26:20] Buffmongo casts a spell!
[02:26:21] You must perform the Kelgor's Fist style before this one!
[02:26:21] You prepare to perform a Kelgor's Fist!
[02:26:22] You perform your Kelgor's Fist perfectly. (+136)
[02:26:22] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 350 (-67) damage!
[02:26:22] You hit for 77 (-35) damage!
[02:26:22] You miss!

1870 dmg in 4 seconds.

Or this:

[02:27:05] Your attack speed increases.
[02:27:05] Your attacks gain a ferocious edge!
[02:27:07] You enter combat mode and target [Chrii]
[02:27:07] You prepare to perform a Clan's Call!
[02:27:07] You perform your Clan's Call perfectly. (+133)
[02:27:07] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 354 (-67) damage!
[02:27:07] You hit for 58 (-26) damage!
[02:27:07] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 186 (-35) damage!
[02:27:07] Chrii cannot seem to move!
[02:27:08] You prepare to perform a Clan's Call!
[02:27:08] Buffmongo casts a spell!
[02:27:09] You perform your Clan's Call perfectly. (+125)
[02:27:09] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 333 (-63) damage!
[02:27:09] You critical hit for an additional 109 damage!
[02:27:09] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 225 (-43) damage!
[02:27:09] Chrii already has that effect.
[02:27:09] Wait until it expires. Spell Failed
[02:27:10] You prepare to perform a Clan's Call!
[02:27:10] Buffmongo casts a spell!
[02:27:10] You perform your Clan's Call perfectly. (+111)
[02:27:10] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 295 (-56) damage!
[02:27:10] You attack Chrii with your greave and hit for 195 (-37) damage!
[02:27:10] You critical hit for an additional 37 damage!
[02:27:10] Chrii already has that effect.
[02:27:10] Wait until it expires. Spell Failed

1792 dmg in 3 seconds.

Tbh infils deserve a huuuuuge buff! They only do 1000 dmg in 9 seconds :(
 

Jarl

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Kinda stupid to compare a class compared to work like savages are supose to and a assassin.....

next up for comparison is druids and penguins
 

poky

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Indica said:
nob, coming from someone who got there rps from being overpowered LA abuser, cock!!!

yeah cus the guy obviously knows nothing about the game since he once played a zerker!!! I mean they were overpowered and all that!!! ;)
 

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Been killed inside DF from full HP a couple times... but hey its getting nerfed and if purge is up infils ain't hard
 

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Jarl said:
1K+ dmg on 660+af chain with max resist.

since thrust weapons, which I will assume these infils used, got +15% to chain armor, it doesnt seem very strange that he will do this kinda dmg in 9sec.

not if we also assume he got uber gear and was buffed.
 

Jarl

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Only uber gear random infil warder member have is dagger that summon adds

:flame:
 

CjkaceBM

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Hahahaha.

Hahahaha

The idiocy of Freddies continues (I was hoping that they stealth nerfed it during the forum downtime, so that you had to have +10 IQ to type here) :)

In 9 seconds almost every melee would do 1K damage, especially assassins, as they are going to be nearer the swing cap than almost every other class.

9sec / 1.5sec (swing cap) = 6 attacks

1000 damage / 6 attacks = 166.66 damage per attack (mainhand only)
 

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Jarl said:
Only uber gear random infil warder member have is dagger that summon adds

:flame:

dont underestimate the gear fotm infils have, since they are often alts of rich ppl ;)
 

Jarl

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Actualy the assassin with some RR maby would done ~2K in 9sec, I said its was 1K done in les then the duration of the stun, 1sec or 9sec, not specified.

And considering 1.5sec cap = 6swings in 9sec they more likely do 6x300 since mainhand + offhahnd - misses prolly avg on 300per swing
 

Aybabtu

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Jarl said:
Actualy the assassin with some RR maby would done ~2K in 9sec, I said its was 1K done in les then the duration of the stun, 1sec or 9sec, not specified.

And considering 1.5sec cap = 6swings in 9sec they more likely do 6x300 since mainhand + offhahnd - misses prolly avg on 300per swing


Hah!
 

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