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Evidence.massively damages society and confidence in government that far outweighs the small effect on deaths
Evidence.massively damages society and confidence in government that far outweighs the small effect on deaths
I wrote practically.
Do you understand what that means.
And no I dont think its reqd because it massively damages society and confidence in government that far outweighs the small effect on deaths it will provide.
His point is sort of correct, but he's a bit too dumb to be able to express it in a way that doesn't look like a wanker said it (because a wanker did).
Translation: Massive lockdown is required, scientists tend to be right, I don't like it.
This is actually Job conceding that scientists tend to be correct when they call for the necessary things. It's government that won't do owt (or do too little to late because they're scared of @Bodhi).
Broken record20,000 deaths would be judged a success, said the Tories.
Tory apologist.Broken record
Tell that to australia who have used lock downs to virtually remove the virus. They did it right. They had a small out break and locked down for 3 days till they knew it was controlled.Probably more because they are trying to delay the massive collateral damage that lockdowns entail, for very little benefit.
Scientists have already started looking at this, and initial impressions aren't good:
Canadian expert's research finds lockdown harms are 10 times greater than benefits
Dr. Ari Joffe is a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases at the Stollery Children’s Hospital in Edmonton and a Clinical Professor in the Department of…torontosun.com
So Whittys bigging up a severe lockdown.
Once a week outing, no talking in public etc, banding numbers like 30K in hospital with covid compared to 18K at April peak.
But thats 'with' covid, not rushed to hospital with breathing problems and the massive increase in testing is bound to increase that number.
Anyway the Mail started predicting yesterday and now its looking more likely, they are rarely wrong about these kinds of government decisions, so I think were looking at practically martial law over the next few weeks if numbers dont start dropping.
Tell that to australia who have used lock downs to virtually remove the virus. They did it right. They had a small out break and locked down for 3 days till they knew it was controlled.
It gives test and trace time to find all those that interacted with those while not spreading the virus unknowingly.You might have to explain to me how a lockdown for 3 days is going to help for a virus with an infection cycle of 14 days, and also what season it is over there and what happens to respiratory illnesses in summer.
It gives test and trace time to find all those that interacted with those while not spreading the virus unknowingly.
once the tracing people had time to work while people were in their houses the lockdown could be released. With then just the isolating people left inside.
see?
Evidence.Asymptomatic transmission isn't really a thing
Evidence.
Meta-analysis of 54 studies with 77,758 participants found chance an infected person will infect one or more people at home is 18% if symptomatic & CLOSE TO 0% if asymptomatic [0.7% incl. possible attribution errors]
Low confidence due to only 4 studies including asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic.Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2
This systematic review and meta-analysis examines evidence for household transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), disaggregated by several covariates, and compares it with other coronavirusesjamanetwork.com
Important questions remain regarding household spread of SARS-CoV-2. Chief among them is the infectiousness of children to their household contacts and the infectiousness of asymptomatic, mildly ill, and severely ill index cases.
Low confidence due to only 4 studies including asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic.
It would, obviously, be lower (you're not coughing all over everyone). But I don't think you can seriously rule it out as "not a thing".
Is that 53 in your area or 53 per 100k?I live in Grimsby , North East Lincolnshire and on the link someon posted my area is classed as sidney park area and now has only 53!!
Doesn't look like the graphs don't show that m8. There's steady rises from early december. (In fact, I'm suspicious of the data - I think it's probably better as long term trends rather than specific date data).
Eh?Doesn't look like the graphs don't show that m8. There's steady rises from early december. (In fact, I'm suspicious of the data - I think it's probably better as long term trends rather than specific date data).
Eh?
Between the 23rd and 30th December there is a sharp spike for North Town.
Factor in the time lag delay from contracting the virus to when a test can give a positive result - it can take three weeks for people from first infection to produce enough antibodies to be even detectable by a covid test.Eh?
Between the 23rd and 30th December there is a sharp spike for North Town.
Factor in the time lag delay from contracting the virus to when a test can give a positive result - it can take three weeks for people from first infection to produce enough antibodies to be even detectable by a covid test.
Xmas infections should start showing up in tests being performed about now - so those spikes are bugger all to do with xmas.
Factor in the time lag delay from contracting the virus to when a test can give a positive result - it can take three weeks for people from first infection to produce enough antibodies to be even detectable by a covid test.
Xmas infections should start showing up in tests being performed about now - so those spikes are bugger all to do with xmas.
Not really, they've all got their downsides or lag times. And the point I was making was that a spike starting 23rd December wasn't "christmas loonies" or however @Deebs referred to themI think you have massively misunderstood how these tests work tbh.