Job-worshipper and all round follower of cunts.
- Dec 22, 2003
What uncomfortable conclusion?I wad trying to post that one.
At least its answered one of my questions, theyve also note some London boroughs are approaching herd immunity, so every asymptomatic infection is also better than a vaccine.
The net is closing in on an uncomfortable conclusion.
And both based on the original seemingly not anywhere near as transmissible and the latest variant.This systematic review and meta-analysis examines evidence for household transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), disaggregated by several covariates, and compares it with other coronavirusesjamanetwork.com
//edit - there's also one knocking around studying 10 million people, but it's from China and..erm...yeah
That presumes people that have it also have symptoms..because if they dont they wont go and get a test, 'apparently' a 1/3 of folks dont exhibit any symptoms and therefore wont seek help or get tested, why would they?Factor in the time lag delay from contracting the virus to when a test can give a positive result - it can take three weeks for people from first infection to produce enough antibodies to be even detectable by a covid test.
Xmas infections should start showing up in tests being performed about now - so those spikes are bugger all to do with xmas.
Thats the BBC trying to stay relevant, if we still have lockdowns, nobody is going on holiday anywhere. These folks probably have disposable cash and are hedging their bets trying to get in early, the like of TUI are rubbing their hands together because they don't need to get a loan cuz some OAP just bailed them out. I honestly cant see much happening this year tbh.nice to know that all the old codgers we've all given up a year of our lives for to protect are going to get their holidays
I'd personally like to see some formal research on it, anecdotal evidence sucks. It just seems pretty straight forward that the virus goes from human to human (yes there will be other cases from objects, door handles whatever) but to get the viral loading required, and this is what Dingwall has referred to, you really need to human to human transfer. So, if as he says the 'chances' of catching it are so slim wtf have we got at least many thousands dead and hospitals full of covid cases. They didnt just magic it.I think the reason we haven't gone down the masks outdoors route is that there is no real evidence they will have any effect - the evidence base is even weaker than it is for masks indoors. I follow Professor Dingwall from SAGE on Twitter, as he's been one of the more reasonable voices throughout this, and he posted this the other day on masks outdoors:
He also restates the SAGE view on masks in general in the replies - weak evidence of a small potential benefit, but more likely to be a placebo. Hasn't transferred to the rhetoric sadly, but that is their view.
Interestingly on compliance, Sky posted a survey that showed people were complying more this time round than in March, so I do suspect people's views on compliance are like their views on driving - everyone thinks they're better at it than everyone else
The emptying hospitals out into care homes in March is one of the biggest, most deadly clusterfucks I have ever seen frankly - I've seen figures from 15k to 25k deaths attributed to this. Add in 35k non-COVID excess deaths and it's starting to look like the response to the virus was more deadly than the virus itself. I'd heard rumours this had started again, but I note that Hancock was talking about using hotels for this - this would make sense, but what would make even more sense, is to use some of the Private Healthcare capacity that is pretty much just sitting on the shelf, and could easily be used for non-electives/recovery, and would take some of the strain off the frontline workers. Doesn't look like that is an option sadly, because politics:
NHS England and senior clinical leaders in London are 'profoundly uncomfortable' that some routine elective care is continuing in private hospitals, while the NHS faces 'unthinkable' pressures from coronavirus.www.hsj.co.uk
Gotta say I have massive respect for the front line NHS workers, but the senior management can go fuck themselves, frankly.
Of course, and clown leaderships in places like Brazil are responsible for it. I think the last time I checked the Brazilian PM had caught CV19 3 times ^^Is covid just doing a world tour?
On Sunday, authorities in Japan recorded the variant in four travelers from Brazil's Amazonas state - raising fears it would spread around the globe like variants from the UK and South Africawww.mirror.co.uk
I think it it actually is a great start to a paper.Even in the abstract it mentions the importance of airborne transmission as being controversial and and the probability of airborne transmission is still uncertain. Not a great start to a paper.
Speaking as one of those (technically) "old codgers" I'd be very dubious about booking anything yet. We actually have our ferry and gite booking in France carried over from last year to this summer but I'm still very doubtful it'll happen, because I have the sneaking suspicion that "40-60 in good health" are going to be just about the last group vaccinated.nice to know that all the old codgers we've all given up a year of our lives for to protect are going to get their holidays
The headline says 50+ but the article talks mainly about 65+ which is more the age group I was referring to. Agree with your sentiments.Speaking as one of those (technically) "old codgers" I'd be very dubious about booking anything yet. We actually have our ferry and gite booking in France carried over from last year to this summer but I'm still very doubtful it'll happen, because I have the sneaking suspicion that "40-60 in good health" are going to be just about the last group vaccinated.
Maybe they will have solved the vaccine shortage by then ^^The headline says 50+ but the article talks mainly about 65+ which is more the age group I was referring to. Agree with your sentiments.
*runs off to gorge on donuts and chips to get higher up the vaccine listMaybe they will have solved the vaccine shortage by then ^^
But bear in mind, conditions such as diet control type 2 diabetes, higher blood pressure, hypertension etc etc all bump you up the list a lot. Then of course when you hit 55+ you are more likely to suffer from 'underlying health conditions' .
Was reading this a couple of weeks back on the same subject - well, the media's reporting of the same subject - very well written and highly amusing, about the most dangerous 3 words in the English Language - "we now know".I think it it actually is a great start to a paper.
They're saying "we don't know for sure". And if that's the case, that's the case.
He's bang on about economists - and by extension epidemiologists as well - they successfully predicted 10 out of the last 3 recessions“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
Yeah it pretty much says that in the article. However, the last line caught my eye:I am pretty sure it is.
So anti-vaxxers are a protected class now? Stupidity is a human right? Brilliant.People with strong anti-vaccination beliefs may be protected under equality law, Ms Hill added
Is it also illegal to deny somebody to come into your house to do some work if they aren't vaccinated?