Politics Coronavirus

[Job]

I would suggest that the processes unveiling themselves during this lockdown is undoubtedly pointing towards people being given a university degree online at the age of ten based on cognitive tests.

Its the undeniable and unavoidable singularity as all the technology being put in place increasingly undermines historical concepts....work as we know it is eroding away, that tiny sliver of time in the history books where humans went to work places and had jobs they performed as a handover to automation.

Bring it on....work is soul destroying..life wasting misery for the vast majority.

 

[Job]

Only 3 covid deaths reported yesterday' which is down from 55 last saturday...and now relates to new measuring of no covid on certificate ,if death is over 28 days after infection.

 

[Talivar]

I thought some people could take weeks to die in hospital? Or does this not include those who die in Hospital

 

[Talivar]

A quick search found this , not sure how accurate it is though. If true they are not just getting rid of no related deaths but also removing the figures for genuine deaths that took longer than 28 days?
"Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later. Add a possible 14-day incubation period, and the longest likely scenario, then, is 10 total weeks from the time of infection to a person’s death."
From Infection to Recovery: How Long It Lasts

 

[Raven]

Sister in law got back from France on Friday, tested positive for Covid. She needs to move out of her flat in two weeks too...

 

[Job]

A quick search found this , not sure how accurate it is though. If true they are not just getting rid of no related deaths but also removing the figures for genuine deaths that took longer than 28 days?
"Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later. Add a possible 14-day incubation period, and the longest likely scenario, then, is 10 total weeks from the time of infection to a person’s death."
From Infection to Recovery: How Long It Lasts

Theres a lot more to it obviously.

Did covid weaken them and hasten on an earlier death or did it directly cause it...very much a grey area.

I guess they have to make the cutoff somewhere but its ripe for political point scoring, as Ive said the truth will come out once all the political advantage has faded and the actual science takes over

 

[Gwadien]

Theres a lot more to it obviously.

Did covid weaken them and hasten on an earlier death or did it directly cause it...very much a grey area.

I guess they have to make the cutoff somewhere but its ripe for political point scoring, as Ive said the truth will come out once all the political advantage has faded and the actual science takes over

Your logic is like suggesting AIDS/HIV isn't an issue.

 

[Moriath]

Nothing to do with the Tories?

You literally repeated what the minister said as his justification, lmao.

'Yes, this is gospel'

OK, if you want a debate, tell me what harm 'inflating grades' will have.

I already said universities dont have an extra 12% places. So if all those expected to get grades to go to uni get them then the unis have to make some other way to differentiate cause they cannot take all those who got grades good enough to go.

so same situation just moved the disappointment down the line.

and i seen people working in unis saying that they wouldnt have enough space to accommodate all the extra. Not enough staff to supervise them all.

 

[Raven]

A-level results: 'Huge mess' as exams appeal guidance withdrawn

The criteria for "valid" mock exams is being reviewed by the regulator, hours after it published it.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Gwadien]

I already said universities dont have an extra 12% places. So if all those expected to get grades to go to uni get them then the unis have to make some other way to differentiate cause they cannot take all those who got grades good enough to go.

so same situation just moved the disappointment down the line.

and i seen people working in unis saying that they wouldnt have enough space to accommodate all the extra. Not enough staff to supervise them all.

Where have you got that 12% extra places from? because the last I heard Universities were absolutely shitting theirselves that they'd see much less numbers attending university in the next academic year.

Even if what you're saying is true, you think it's fair to say 'ah you can go to Uni, because you went to a good school'?

Intentional or not, it's a policy which is very much shitting on the poor and helping the rich.

I'm sure the government will point at the over funded or in many eyes correctly funded London schools with a large BAME attendance and say they got into their unis!

 

[dysfunction]

Ahem:

Politics - Coronavirus

It is their own fault - I do not feel sorry for any of them at all. Again the richer travellers will be ok as they can either work from home (or France) so will not give a toss (i mean why if you can work form home would you not take your laptop with you incase you got stuck given the current...

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A-level results: 'Huge mess' as exams appeal guidance withdrawn

The criteria for "valid" mock exams is being reviewed by the regulator, hours after it published it.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

Sister in law got back from France on Friday, tested positive for Covid. She needs to move out of her flat in two weeks too...

Landlord can't turf her out...

 

[Job]

Theyve written an algorithm to guess grades and used it officially

Theres no putting that genie back in the bottle....everything else is moot.
The step has been taken.

 

[Moriath]

Where have you got that 12% extra places from? because the last I heard Universities were absolutely shitting theirselves that they'd see much less numbers attending university in the next academic year.

Even if what you're saying is true, you think it's fair to say 'ah you can go to Uni, because you went to a good school'?

Intentional or not, it's a policy which is very much shitting on the poor and helping the rich.

I'm sure the government will point at the over funded or in many eyes correctly funded London schools with a large BAME attendance and say they got into their unis!

12% was the over marked passes from mock exams to the average. So 12% more pass marks. You claim to be teaching but dont know the stats from your own profession.

 

[Moriath]

Landlord can't turf her out...

Aye he needs to go to court and get a possession order. Cant just kick people out

 

[Raven]

Landlord can't turf her out...

No, I know but she is moving up here from London so wants out ASAP.

 

[Moriath]

12% was the over marked passes from mock exams to the average. So 12% more pass marks. You claim to be teaching but dont know the stats from your own profession.

@Gwadien they need more funding for the increase in scottish pupils already. If you can get the government to give shed loads to accommodate them then alls well. But at the moment they cant.

 

[Moriath]

No, I know but she is moving up here from London so wants out ASAP.

Asap is 14 days now.

 

[Raven]

Yes, maybe you missed the bit where I said she had Covid-19, she won't be moving shit and nobody can come help either.

 

[Yoni]

All Unis should be doing this :

Statement on A-Level Admissions 2020 - St Anne's College, Oxford

St Anne’s College is committed to widening access to Oxford and becoming ever more diverse and inclusive. This year, like every year, College tutors and staff have worked with great care to ensure that any capacity we have to accept candidates who have not met their offer conditions is...

www.st-annes.ox.ac.uk

 

[Job]

Every discussion about uni ends with Oxford promising this and that, followed by little timmy from the coal mines getting a place there.

Its such fucking simplistic boloks, this endless snobbery based entirely on the notion that even though Blair decided everyone should go to uni there are still 'better' uni's.
You know, the ones where rich people go.

Because the entire university scam is based on snobbery and elitism, these idiotic institutions are being allowed to pump out thousands of totally unsuitable graduates for jobs that dont exist and base it on a a ceremony at the end where everyone dresses up and some old codger gets dragged out with the some pseudo clever, witty tale to make everyone think theyre at the top.
You might as well get a Lion King sticker from Disneyland these days.

Meanwhile the backbone of western civilisation is being run by people actually learning real stuff in apprenticeships or technical colleges.

Sometime soon, someone really important is going to have to pull the plug and return them to what they were and we can all watch documentaries detailing the corruption by greed and ideology.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/david_colquhoun/status/1295131057973592065

 

[Scouse]

Spoke to a teacher I know really well the other day. Smart cookie. It is indeed a joke what they've done.

HOWEVER: If you didn't get the grade you thought you deserved you can take the exam in the autumn. Add to that - if you do *worse* in that exam then you can choose to keep your higher estimated grade.

People should shut the fuck up about this IMO. If you can take an exam to correct it and have the luxury of choosing which grade you keep that's about as "fair" as it gets tbh.



As my mate teaches at a decent private school she's even got kids motivated enough to do the exam anyway as they see it as an opportunity to turn their perfectly acceptable A into an A*.

What a hard life eh?

 

[Ormorof]

Spoke to a teacher I know really well the other day. Smart cookie. It is indeed a joke what they've done.

HOWEVER: If you didn't get the grade you thought you deserved you can take the exam in the autumn. Add to that - if you do *worse* in that exam then you can choose to keep your higher estimated grade.

People should shut the fuck up about this IMO. If you can take an exam to correct it and have the luxury of choosing which grade you keep that's about as "fair" as it gets tbh.



As my mate teaches at a decent private school she's even got kids motivated enough to do the exam anyway as they see it as an opportunity to turn their perfectly acceptable A into an A*.

What a hard life eh?

The question is should the cost of this fuck up combined with corona situation be borne by a bunch of 18 year olds for years to come OR does the gov bend over backwards to absorb the cost for 1 year?

If they do exam in autumn they wont be able to start uni until next year, they cant take more courses at A level, economy is in free fall so not many jobs for them to take temporarily...

Its a bit callous to just say "my mate who works with rich kids who could afford to sit on their aas for a year says its fine so EVERYONE else is wrong"

 

[Raven]

Spoke to a teacher I know really well the other day. Smart cookie. It is indeed a joke what they've done.

HOWEVER: If you didn't get the grade you thought you deserved you can take the exam in the autumn. Add to that - if you do *worse* in that exam then you can choose to keep your higher estimated grade.

People should shut the fuck up about this IMO. If you can take an exam to correct it and have the luxury of choosing which grade you keep that's about as "fair" as it gets tbh.



As my mate teaches at a decent private school she's even got kids motivated enough to do the exam anyway as they see it as an opportunity to turn their perfectly acceptable A into an A*.

What a hard life eh?

On the same note, many kids might feel forced into accepting lower grades than they deserve because they cannot afford the luxury of a gap-year before going to university. Potentially missing out on a better university.

This fuck up might will affect the future of these kids, they are right to be pissed. Completely miss-managed from start to finish.

I should add that this has been engineered to disproportionately affect kids from more deprived areas.

 

[Gwadien]

Spoke to a teacher I know really well the other day. Smart cookie. It is indeed a joke what they've done.

HOWEVER: If you didn't get the grade you thought you deserved you can take the exam in the autumn. Add to that - if you do *worse* in that exam then you can choose to keep your higher estimated grade.

People should shut the fuck up about this IMO. If you can take an exam to correct it and have the luxury of choosing which grade you keep that's about as "fair" as it gets tbh.



As my mate teaches at a decent private school she's even got kids motivated enough to do the exam anyway as they see it as an opportunity to turn their perfectly acceptable A into an A*.

What a hard life eh?

Your mate teaches at a private school.

You're saying to working class Joe to teach himself half a year of college in a couple of months to sit exams? Come on.

I suppose all the money that teachers are going to make in the dying weeks of the summer from private tutoring will help the economy though.

 

[Job]

A better university...

What does that mean.

 

[dysfunction]

Spoke to a teacher I know really well the other day. Smart cookie. It is indeed a joke what they've done.

HOWEVER: If you didn't get the grade you thought you deserved you can take the exam in the autumn. Add to that - if you do *worse* in that exam then you can choose to keep your higher estimated grade.

People should shut the fuck up about this IMO. If you can take an exam to correct it and have the luxury of choosing which grade you keep that's about as "fair" as it gets tbh.



As my mate teaches at a decent private school she's even got kids motivated enough to do the exam anyway as they see it as an opportunity to turn their perfectly acceptable A into an A*.

What a hard life eh?

I they had done it properly in the first place it wouldn't be necessary for students to have to resort to this. There isn't even a proper appeal process out yet.
40% of students have received a grade well below their predicted scores.

A-level and GCSE results: Pressure mounts on ministers to solve exam crisis

As pressure mounts over the exams crisis, ministers in England are set to make an announcement.

www.bbc.co.uk

That isn't an acceptable outcome.

 

[Deebs]

Why did they actually have to use AI? Surely taking the word of the teacher and their coursework/exams for the current 19/20 year should have been sufficient?

 

[Job]

Computer says no....

I got so much shit for that one..

And they will keep trying till we roll over at the flashing lights on the screen

It now doesnt matter what the results are, the cat is out if the bag that exam results are open to any criteria they wish...your postcode..ethnic background..class or gender.

And that data list will get longer as we eek out every concievable measure of humanity, feed it into the wizard and decide your life.