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Im sure he'll be fine..he's not fat and diabetic like Boris.

In fact he says he feels better all ready.
Very mild case...
 
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Job said:
Im sure he'll be fine..he's not fat and diabetic like Boris.

In fact he says he feels better all ready.
Very mild case...
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Is boris actually diabetic or you just spouting again?

and from what i Understand he might pack a few pounds but he is pretty fit.
 
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Exioce said:
17st 7lb at 5'9"
(111kg at 175cm)
Technically obese. In no way pretty fit.
www.thesun.co.uk

What is Boris Johnson's weight and what's his obesity plan?

BORIS Johnson has said that he believes his weight was one of the major reasons that coronavirus hit him harder than the “thinnies” in his cabinet. Since being discharged from St Thomas…
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What i mean is he plays tennis he runs regularly. You dont have to have 5% body fat to be fit. Oh and quoting the Sun. hmmmm
 
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Moriath said:
from what i Understand he might pack a few pounds but he is pretty fit.
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We've already covered this - the science shows you can't be fit and fat at the same time.

You can be strong, with a weight impediment (you need more muscle to lift the same weight as a person of healthy bodyweight as you also have to lift your own flab).

But you're still not fit...
 
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Type 2 Diabetes is almost guaranteed at his age while obese.
 
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Type 2 Diabetes is almost guaranteed at his age while obese.
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Nope.

90% of adults with type-two diabetes are overweight but only 30% of overweight adults have it.

You're 3-7 times more likely to be diabetic when you're obese and twenty times more likely if you're morbidly obese - but it's not a guarantee.

All that can be guaranteed is that if you're fat, you're not fit like you should be - the very fact you're carrying too much weight means your body is unnecessarily stressed in multiple unhealthy ways.
 
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Right then @Moriath, I've posted this before but:

There's No Such Thing as "Fat But Fit" Major Study Finds.


Come on fatty. Hit the bullshit tag again, just for giggles, then go hit up the fridge in a fit of denial...

"Fat but fit":
The study found that those obese individuals who appeared healthy in fact had a 50% higher risk of coronary heart disease than people who were of normal weight. They had a 7% increased risk of cerebrovascular disease – problems affecting the blood supply to the brain – which can cause a stroke, and double the risk of heart failure.
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I'm not saying Boris is one, he's just a fat sweaty gimp but there are outliers. My old man is/was a fat bastard, one that rides 20-30 miles a day to work and still runs the London marathon every year, he is getting close to 65 now. He spent 25 years jumping out of planes with shit loads of kit though, so previous conditioning probably plays a large part.
 
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Moriath said:
What i mean is he plays tennis he runs regularly. You dont have to have 5% body fat to be fit. Oh and quoting the Sun. hmmmm
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He gets his photographer to take pictures every time he goes out for a jog, and half the country thinks he's an avid runner. The propaganda works.
 
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Exioce said:
He gets his photographer to take pictures every time he goes out for a jog, and half the country thinks he's an avid runner. The propaganda works.
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I have randomly seen him on his bike near London Bridge - nothing staged....
 
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Oh dear. Doesn't look good for us.

www.theguardian.com

Immunity to Covid-19 could be lost in months, UK study suggests

Exclusive: King’s College London team found steep drops in antibody levels three months after infection
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

It could be that, if you don't want to keep social distancing for the rest of your life the best defence against corona could be making sure you're fit, healthy and the correct weight.
 
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What I don't get is that if it appears there is no immunity...how would a vaccine even work?
 
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What I don't get is that if it appears there is no immunity...how would a vaccine even work?
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There's been a very clear warning from the scientific community all along that an effective vaccine may never be a thing.

What we really should be doimg is looking at wholesale reform of our economic system - our interactions with, and destruction of, the natural world are the root cause and major risk factor in a continuous stream of these animal-borne viruses jumping into the human population.

But nobody wants to hear that when we're talking the twin disasters of climate change and biodiversity loss - and I can't see them wanting to hear it over dangerous diseases either tbh.
 
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our interactions with, and destruction of, the natural world are the root cause and major risk factor in a continuous stream of these animal-borne viruses jumping into the human population.
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Fucking hell, really? Destruction of the natural world does NOT create fucking virus. It is simply people eating stuff they have no reason to be eating. It is that simple.
 
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Well, the more we exploit the natural world the more shit we are going to dig up, the more viruses will jump from species to species. This being just one of them, and not the last.
 
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Not sneezing and coughing everywhere would also help, you know the idea of using tissues, corner of you arm, etc. isn't just a covid thing it has been heavily advertised every year around flu time.
 
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Fucking hell, really? Destruction of the natural world does NOT create fucking virus. It is simply people eating stuff they have no reason to be eating. It is that simple.
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Been posted about multiple times and relatively well studied.

The route of coronavirus from animal > man *may* well have been chinese markets but coronavirus isn't the only virus. Destruction of habitat and expansion of man's space at the expense of wild areas is forcing animals and man into ever closer proximity.

It's neither simple nor solely due to people eating stuff they "shouldn't" be eating. Not by a long stretch.

Cursory link:
www.npr.org

U.N. Predicts Rise In Diseases That Jump From Animals To Humans Due To Habitat Loss

Zoonotic pathogens, which include not only COVID-19 but HIV/AIDS and Ebola, have increasingly emerged because of stresses humans have placed on animal habitats, according to a United Nations report.
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