Politics Coronavirus

[Scouse]

Good news for those countries.

 

[MYstIC G]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvFq-vG-CA8


What? This is the trolls thread, right?

 

[Bodhi]

List of participants of SAGE and related sub-groups

Looks like they missed a trick not inviting Karen from Facebook?

 

[~Yuckfou~]

List of participants of SAGE and related sub-groups

Looks like they missed a trick not inviting Karen from Facebook?

Also 2 declined to have their names published, so Cummings and who?

 

[Yoni]

In today's press conference they have stated that there is partial protection for covid19

Karin Tegmark-Wisell, chef för Folkhälsomyndighetens avdelning för mikrobiologi, säger att det tycks vara så att man har helt eller partiellt skydd mot viruset vid återinfektion. Kunskapsläget är under utveckling, påpekar hon Skyddet minskar gradvis under första året och individuella skillander kan finnas , säger Tegmark-Wisell. En tillfrisknad person kan därför inte vara säker på hur antikroppsläget är hos den själv.

In English:
Karin Tegmark-Wisell, director of the Department of Public Health's microbiology department, says it seems that there is full or partial protection against the virus in case of re-infection. The state of knowledge is under development, she points out. Protection gradually decreases during the first year and individual differences may exist, says Tegmark-Wisell. Therefore, a recovered person cannot be sure how the antibody position is in the person.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Looks like they're might be some mileage in this..

Coronavirus: Scientists hail 'groundbreaking' discovery of antibody which prevents infection

 

[caLLous]

Also:

UK scientists create Covid-19 antibody test 'with 99.8% accuracy'

 

[Yoni]

Travel in Schengen area is becoming clearer with several re opening their boarders within Schengen countries and also the UK (slowly), without 14 days isolation- interestingly Sweden is keeping its boarders closed (except for citizens, residents and "necessary" (not defined)) only until May 16. (Norway have done the same).

 

[Job]

Its all mute...its all pointless statistics.

Lockdown does nothing but give the second wave...which they are admitting WILL happen more chance to come back even stronger.

The mutated Spanish flu killed 10X more straight after they ended lock down because it prevented enough people catching it as a barrier.

If we dont get a vaccine and a second wave comes, then we are royally fucked.
This is probably the most dangerous time and lockdown has given us nothing but a false sense of security.

 

[Jupitus]

If we dont get a vaccine and a second wave comes, then we are royally fucked.

Naaahhhhh... it's just like regular flu, I thought you said?

BTW... 'moot'

Plank.

 

[Moriath]

View: https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1257317903721852929

 

[Job]

It has to mutate, it looks like it wont.

But if it does like the Spanish flu.

Then we are fucked.

 

[Job]

Because lockdown simply stores the problem, we have to now be ultra careful for basically years.
Obviously not as idiotic as the Spanish flu where they all blew whistles and stopped all measures on the spot.
The second wave killed many more and then a mutation started killing young , healthy people in 24hrs.

A second wave would reduce the populations confidence in going about their daily lives to practically zero.
Strange how visiting the countryside makes you public enemy number one but commuting to work in central areas is completely ignored.

Still its killed 0.038% of the country in 4 months...so armageddon and all that.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/Orgetorix/status/1257381242082930690

 

[Job]

Anyway its killed 0.0035% of the world population so far.
And weve destroyed the world economy, vastly increased future poverty...started a virtual war with China, sentenced millions to early deaths from delaying treatment and diagnosis.

To almost entirely slightly extend the lives of the very old and sick.

 

[fettoken]

@Job You don’t know the virus and the implications it has long term on any aspect in life, to be able to express any sort of valid argument or prediction. Your’e debating with and scaring only yourself. It’s completely fair and understandable to be afraid, but don’t try to push it on others

 

[Ormorof]

Naaahhhhh... it's just like regular flu, I thought you said?

BTW... 'moot'

Plank.

Its a cows opinion

 

[Bodhi]

Just had word from my Nan's nursing home - the two residents who had CV-19 are both recovering in hospital and due to be sent home when their tests come back negative, and they are now in the process of arranging tests for all the remaining residents. Also say they're fully staffed and have all the PPE they need.

Good news!

 

[Job]

@Job You don’t know the virus and the implications it has long term on any aspect in life, to be able to express any sort of valid argument or prediction. Your’e debating with and scaring only yourself. It’s completely fair and understandable to be afraid, but don’t try to push it on others

Im not scaring myself am I though.
Im merely making a reasonable observation of the tradeoff between economic meltdown and a relatively tiny amount of deaths.
If we'd observed social distance but carried on...just exactly as we are going to do when the lockdown has ended, then the deaths wouldnt have been that much higher...we wouldnt be painted into a corner.
We wouldnt have dialled in possibly millions of extra deaths over the next 5 years.

All this will be discussed over the year, because its a real thing and infact it WAS how we started until fear took over.
Sweden held their nerve.

But apparently questioning any group think these days is trolling.

 

[Job]

In today's press conference they have stated that there is partial protection for covid19

Karin Tegmark-Wisell, chef för Folkhälsomyndighetens avdelning för mikrobiologi, säger att det tycks vara så att man har helt eller partiellt skydd mot viruset vid återinfektion. Kunskapsläget är under utveckling, påpekar hon Skyddet minskar gradvis under första året och individuella skillander kan finnas , säger Tegmark-Wisell. En tillfrisknad person kan därför inte vara säker på hur antikroppsläget är hos den själv.

In English:
Karin Tegmark-Wisell, director of the Department of Public Health's microbiology department, says it seems that there is full or partial protection against the virus in case of re-infection. The state of knowledge is under development, she points out. Protection gradually decreases during the first year and individual differences may exist, says Tegmark-Wisell. Therefore, a recovered person cannot be sure how the antibody position is in the person.

So it might or might not be that we have full or partial, but individuals might be different.
Hmmm

 

[Bodhi]

Interesting update from the WHO:

Coronavirus updates: Global deaths pass 250,000 as countries lift curbs - BBC News

Based on yesterday's news from France they have said they are "not surprised", and based on that is asking everyone to review deaths from late 2019.

Sounds like a tacit admission that they don't trust China? Better late than never I guess.

 

[SilverHood]

Countries are testing old flu samples from November and December, and getting positive Covid-19 hits. Sweden and France confirmed so far.

 

[Job]

That was mentioned some time ago that the tests are easily confused by other similar virus.

Depends on the test...theres frickin loads of them

 

[Job]

This looks good, but its only a small part of the story.

 

[Scouse]

Come on @Job. Post your source.

 

[dysfunction]

Im not scaring myself am I though.
Im merely making a reasonable observation of the tradeoff between economic meltdown and a relatively tiny amount of deaths.
If we'd observed social distance but carried on...just exactly as we are going to do when the lockdown has ended, then the deaths wouldnt have been that much higher...we wouldnt be painted into a corner.
We wouldnt have dialled in possibly millions of extra deaths over the next 5 years.

All this will be discussed over the year, because its a real thing and infact it WAS how we started until fear took over.
Sweden held their nerve.

But apparently questioning any group think these days is trolling.

The entire globe is wrong by having a lockdown and you're the only one who thinks we shouldn't have done this.

Interesting logic you have.

 

[Job]

Come on @Job. Post your source.

Its the ONS data..just tidied up.
I mean it lines up with reported deaths.

 

[Job]

The entire globe is wrong by having a lockdown and you're the only one who thinks we shouldn't have done this.

Interesting logic you have.

Im not the only one by a long shot.

 

[dysfunction]

Im not the only one by a long shot.

So every single government in the entire world is wrong?

 

[Scouse]

Its the ONS data..just tidied up.
I mean it lines up with reported deaths.

Give us your source. Don't say "it's the ONS data just tidied up" - source. Link or FO.