Politics Coronavirus

[Deebs]

You think it's someone's initials?

Nope. I believe in the democratic vote we had in 2016.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

I think I have. Some poor twat who does not believe in the 2016 and 2019 vote.

"Believe"?
WTF.

 

[Deebs]

"Believe"?
WTF.

The majority voted to leave. That is a fact. Get over it. 50.000000000000000000000000000001 is greater than the rest.

 

[Deebs]

Anyway back on tract for those dumb cunts (@~Yuckfou~ ) whatever Govt was in place would have still listened to the same people.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

The majority voted to leave. That is a fact. Get over it. 50.000000000000000000000000000001 is greater than the rest.

So I have to "believe" in that do I?
Have you been taking retard pills?

 

[Embattle]

Personally, I think people would be making mistakes as we go along and the scientific advice would be the same.

My beef is that we've had a decade of a tory government and over a decade of scientists warning about this - so it's not about handling the crisis right now (although the not joined-up UK messaging is clearly a mistake) - it's the fact we weren't prepared. And there's only one government you can blame for that...

Yet Labour still got spanked even harder after a decade of those dreadful Tories

 

[Deebs]

The majority voted to leave. That is a fact. Get over it. 50.000000000000000000000000000001 is greater than the rest.

@~Yuckfou~ prove my math wrong instead of facepalming me.

 

[Deebs]

So I have to "believe" in that do I?
Have you been taking retard pills?

Fuck me what a twat. Let me educate you, 50.whatever is a majority.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Fuck me what a twat. Let me educate you, 50.whatever is a majority.

So I am expected to blindly change my opinions am I?

 

[~Yuckfou~]

You've gone off at a tangent because you were talking bollocks. Not sure what Brexit has to do with Corona virus.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

@~Yuckfou~ prove my math wrong instead of facepalming me.

Maths

 

[Job]

 

[Deebs]

So I am expected to blindly change my opinions am I?

No, you are expected to respect a democratic vote

 

[Deebs]

Maths

Math equates to both mathicmatics and the word math. Go look it up.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Math equates to both mathicmatics and the word math. Go look it up.

Lulz

 

[~Yuckfou~]

No, you are expected to respect a democratic vote

So again what's that got to do with Corona?

 

[Scouse]

No, you are expected to respect a democratic vote

You don't have to support it though.

Democracy means you can campaign for what you like. Just because a vote goes against you you don't have to stfu.

Brexiteers have been a very noisy minority for decades. It's churlish (and antidemocratic) to attempt to deny others the democratic voice brexiteers have been afforded.

 

[Job]

Oh yes..lets rejoin and get stung to bail out the entire Southern Europe.

I suppose at least we'll have free travel without visa agai.....oh hang on.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[~Yuckfou~]

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Job]

No 65, 970,000.

We got rid of a few

 

[Scouse]

Bikes bikes bikes, apparently.

 

[Embattle]

I'd like to see bikes become VAT free.

 

[Scouse]

I'd like to see bikes become VAT free.

I'd love to see a properly funded cycle infrastructure.

Current funding for cycling infra in the UK is less than £1 per person per year.

The dutch spend about £26-ish.

Considering the amount of people taking it up, the current environmental and health pressures it'd be madness of the government not to try everything to take advantage. But it might go the way of other cycling booms...

 

[dysfunction]

Due to lack of infrastructure its going to be chaos on the roads if there is a massive cycling boom

 

[Scouse]

Due to lack of infrastructure its going to be chaos on the roads if there is a massive cycling boom

Absolutely the opposite.

If loads of car journeys turn to bikes there'll be a fuckload less cars on the roads and a lot less of this.

I get you don't like it dys, and nobody would be forcing you. But more bike journeys and less car journeys is not only a good thing, but a necessary thing for our future.

Might as well try to take advantage and make an exponential leap now if we can, as opposed to dribble along later.


Edit: btw @dysfunction - just as an aside - safety actually dramatically increases the more bikes there are, rather than decreases. There's a real safety in numbers.

Behavioural changes in drivers are a big part of this. If coexisting with more cyclists is the norm then accidents per mile ridden go down as drivers become more careful.

 

[dysfunction]

Absolutely the opposite.

If loads of car journeys turn to bikes there'll be a fuckload less cars on the roads and a lot less of this.

I get you don't like it dys, and nobody would be forcing you. But more bike journeys and less car journeys is not only a good thing, but a necessary thing for our future.

Might as well try to take advantage and make an exponential leap now if we can, as opposed to dribble along later.


Edit: btw @dysfunction - just as an aside - safety actually dramatically increases the more bikes there are, rather than decreases. There's a real safety in numbers.

Behavioural changes in drivers are a big part of this. If coexisting with more cyclists is the norm then accidents per mile ridden go down as drivers become more careful.

Well if there were no cars then I'd probably give it a go but it's not likely.
People will revert back to cars again.

Now if there was a proper dedicated bike lane straight from here to the centre of London then I would consider riding into work otherwise I'll just use the train.
Also I would need work to have somewhere to put my bike and shower facilities otherwise it's still a no regardless of the ease of using the bike.

 

[Job]

Elon is opening Tesla factory and challenging the authorities to arrest him.

Tesla and Elon Musk reopen California facility, defying local orders meant to stem coronavirus spread - CNN

Hes such a showman.

 

[Scouse]

Well if there were no cars then I'd probably give it a go but it's not likely.
People will revert back to cars again.

Now if there was a proper dedicated bike lane straight from here to the centre of London then I would consider riding into work otherwise I'll just use the train.
Also I would need work to have somewhere to put my bike and shower facilities otherwise it's still a no regardless of the ease of using the bike.

That forbes article is worth the long read. Similar boom in the 70's US that didn't stick because of choices not made there, but choices being made elsewhere make it lasting - including reclaiming city space for people and not cars.

Real opportunity right now that could have a dramatic effect. For places like London it could be a step change in useability. Many other of our city centres are dying. It could reinvigorate them and make them places people want to be again.