News Clarkson suspended

[old.Tohtori]

Because you have no knowledge of the subject at hand, you looked up some shit on the internet (irrelevant start dates for the presenters) and then you barge in with your ill-formed opinion. It's lucky I'm sitting down otherwise I don't know how I'd cope with the shock of this completely new experience.

Well the whole thread is absolutely ridicilous. It's like one direction girls in here.

By the by, i posted facts, which you still can't dispute.

 

[caLLous]

Facts which mean bollocks-all within the context of old Top Gear vs. new Top Gear and facts which do not equip you to make bold predictions about the show's future.

 

[Talivar]

To me it doesn't matter if the show is over now or not, he had to go its as simple as that, arguing against that is very naive and shows a level of ignorance that is scary imo

 

[DaGaffer]

Well the whole thread is absolutely ridicilous. It's like one direction girls in here.

By the by, i posted facts, which you still can't dispute.

Erm ,no you didn't. I don't know where you got that info from but its a. inaccurate (TG started back in the 1970s), and b. irrelevant.

Original TG was a dreary magazine show about cars that was really a consumer advice show. Then in the 80s they started to jazz it up a bit with some guest presenters (including one J. Clarkson, a columnist on Performance Car magazine), but it was still basically the same show. Then it was reinvented in the 90s. Clarkson became the main front man and the show became a lot more performance oriented, but it was really the magazine format taken up a notch, with Quentin Wilson doing the car buying stuff. But, it started shedding ratings in the late 90s (I was working at the beeb at the time) but was still popular with BBC highups because the brand extensions (the magazine, which they later sold, and some live events), but it was also expensive and didn't export well at all, and was on the verge of being canned when Clarkson and Andy Willman came up with the current format in 2002. However, even then, it was still planned to have a substantial magazine element, with a second hand car guy as the third presenter with Clarkson and Hammond in that first season. They ditched him for the second season, ditched all the consumer advice and brought May back. From that point the show took off, because it was no longer really about cars, but three blokes having a laugh with cars. It was entirely about the chemistry between the three of them. Two things happened. Women started watching, and the international audience started to grow. Old TG never cracked that, and never would have in a million years, because talking about the options list on a UK spec Ford Mondeo (as old TG would have done at length) was not mainstream. But even though the show had a winning formula, what then became clear was that it was a winning formula that only seemed to work with those three. As I said in a earlier post; the TG format has been exported to Australia and the US, and elsewhere, with perfectly good presenters, and it hasn't worked.

Top Gear can be reinvented. Of course it can. But dropping Clarkson and slapping in someone else into the same format will never work. They need an entirely new format and an entirely new show, and probably need to find a substantially new audience. Good luck with that.

 

[Job]

Original Stig couldn't have said it better.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGKF7vE2ZE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[old.user4556]

I felt compelled to facepalm every Toht post because it was complete and utter shite coated in vast helpings of drivel.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I felt compelled to facepalm every Toht post because it was complete and utter shite coated in vast helpings of drivel.

Thanks, your hatred amuses me.

 

[Scouse]

Punching someone you know well during a heated argument in front of people while stressed out does not count as criminal in my book when the person doesn't go to the police.
If that's so then half the teenage lads in this country should have a criminal record.

Teenager's brains haven't even finished developing - they deserve a bit of slack (though if plod catches them they don't get it).

This was a very priviledged 50 year old man, supposedly very clever, no financial worries abusing and assaulting a junior work member. His actions were criminal (whether you view them as such or not) - and it reflects very well on his victim that he chose not to get the fucktard plods involved.

 

[Job]

Yes it does and it has earned him many man points...which tbh he needed with that name.

 

[Raven]

Well the whole thread is absolutely ridicilous. It's like one direction girls in here.

By the by, i posted facts, which you still can't dispute.

Oh, come on. You just made a load of nonsense up then took issue at people for pointing out you were talking utter bollocks.

I used to watch Top Gear in the 80s and 90s, I have absolutely no idea why (maybe because we only had 4 channels back then) but they used to review family cars and go to motor shows of family cars. It was boring, very, very boring. I very much doubt it made it to Finland... Unless the merits of the new Ford Sierra Gear had international appeal that is...I doubt they went anywhere near the Cosworth version in those days!

You just need to take a quick look at the presenters to get an idea of what it used to be before Clarkson, May and Hammond were part of the new Top Gear. Sure a new bunch could try and emulate it but it just won't work.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't take issues

 

[Moriath]

Oh, come on. You just made a load of nonsense up then took issue at people for pointing out you were talking utter bollocks.

I used to watch Top Gear in the 80s and 90s, I have absolutely no idea why (maybe because we only had 4 channels back then) but they used to review family cars and go to motor shows of family cars. It was boring, very, very boring. I very much doubt it made it to Finland... Unless the merits of the new Ford Sierra Gear had international appeal that is...I doubt they went anywhere near the Cosworth version in those days!

You just need to take a quick look at the presenters to get an idea of what it used to be before Clarkson, May and Hammond were part of the new Top Gear. Sure a new bunch could try and emulate it but it just won't work.

Noel Edmonds hehe

 

[caLLous]

Edmonds was before my time but I remember Quentin Willson, Tiff Needell and Tony Mason.

 

[Olgaline]

Top Gear in the 80s and 90s, You just need to take a quick look at the presenters to get an idea of what it used to be before Clarkson, May and Hammond were part of the new Top Gear.

They still have that show, it's called Fifth Gear

 

[Moriath]

They still have that show, it's called Fifth Gear

vicki butler-Henderson. I would have. In her day. Even Angela Ripon., keep up you youngsters.

 

[Job]

It cab keep going, I mean if the BBC can attract such high viewing figures with utter vacous shite like strictly dancing then they can make Topgear work for the mouth breathing masses.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yes it does and it has earned him many man points...which tbh he needed with that name.

What's wrong with his name?

 

[Trem]

Erm ,no you didn't. I don't know where you got that info from but its a. inaccurate (TG started back in the 1970s), and b. irrelevant.

Original TG was a dreary magazine show about cars that was really a consumer advice show. Then in the 80s they started to jazz it up a bit with some guest presenters (including one J. Clarkson, a columnist on Performance Car magazine), but it was still basically the same show. Then it was reinvented in the 90s. Clarkson became the main front man and the show became a lot more performance oriented, but it was really the magazine format taken up a notch, with Quentin Wilson doing the car buying stuff. But, it started shedding ratings in the late 90s (I was working at the beeb at the time) but was still popular with BBC highups because the brand extensions (the magazine, which they later sold, and some live events), but it was also expensive and didn't export well at all, and was on the verge of being canned when Clarkson and Andy Willman came up with the current format in 2002. However, even then, it was still planned to have a substantial magazine element, with a second hand car guy as the third presenter with Clarkson and Hammond in that first season. They ditched him for the second season, ditched all the consumer advice and brought May back. From that point the show took off, because it was no longer really about cars, but three blokes having a laugh with cars. It was entirely about the chemistry between the three of them. Two things happened. Women started watching, and the international audience started to grow. Old TG never cracked that, and never would have in a million years, because talking about the options list on a UK spec Ford Mondeo (as old TG would have done at length) was not mainstream. But even though the show had a winning formula, what then became clear was that it was a winning formula that only seemed to work with those three. As I said in a earlier post; the TG format has been exported to Australia and the US, and elsewhere, with perfectly good presenters, and it hasn't worked.

Top Gear can be reinvented. Of course it can. But dropping Clarkson and slapping in someone else into the same format will never work. They need an entirely new format and an entirely new show, and probably need to find a substantially new audience. Good luck with that.

Oh god, the original Top Gear was so bad, every week it was just about the British rally. Didn't that annoying cunt out of Pink Floyd present on it as well?

 

[Edmond]

Oh god, the original Top Gear was so bad, every week it was just about the British rally. Didn't that annoying cunt out of Pink Floyd present on it as well?

You're thinking of Tony Mason @Trem who was a rally driver, Nick Mason is his brother and the Pink Floyd drummer

 

[Trem]

You're thinking of Tony Mason @Trem who was a rally driver, Nick Mason is his brother and the Pink Floyd drummer

Ahhh they look very similar don't they? Jesus he was a cunt.

 

[russell]

Well whatever happens I can't wait to read all the reactions on here and yes I do love how Old Thot compared it to One Direction... That was class!

 

[Poag]

Christ, what happened to this thread?

Started off ok, got a bit rough in the middle when the TG in general dislike occurred. Improved when the verdict came around, then nose dived in a french mountain.

 

[Moriath]

Christ, what happened to this thread?

Started off ok, got a bit rough in the middle when the TG in general dislike occurred. Improved when the verdict came around, then nose dived in a french mountain.

To soon? Lol. Perhaps it started suffering from depression.

 

[old.Tohtori]

yes I do love how Old Thot compared it to One Direction... That was class!

They are pretty interchangable subjects

 

[Job]

What's wrong with his name?

Because you just know he has pretentious middle class Irish parents who wanted to give him an authentic trendy Irish name.

 

[Gwadien]

Because you just know he has pretentious middle class Irish parents who wanted to give him an authentic trendy Irish name.

Let's judge the victim on his name.

I wish he was brown too, then we could claim that he's doing it because of his race.

 

[DaGaffer]

Because you just know he has pretentious middle class Irish parents who wanted to give him an authentic trendy Irish name.

And he was beaten up by a man called Jeremy, whilst working at the one of the most middle class institutions on the planet. Jesus Job you're such a bellend sometimes.

 

[Bodhi]

Growing up in Doncaster being called Jeremy must have led to an interesting childhood....

 

[Poag]

To soon? Lol. Perhaps it started suffering from depression.

It was worth the risk! (the joke)

 

[Gwadien]

sometimes.

I found his huge flaw with your statement.