bonedancing teh movie

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Aiteal said:
I really know nothing about 8 vs 8 stuff as it never intrested me, but I always download the movies and watch them to see what it is I'm missing.

Forgive my ignorance, but at the start of the second fight you turn into a skellie, im assuming its an RA to disguise you to a certain extent, but dosnt carrying a big glowing guild banner on your back kinda give it away that you are player?
Or does the shapeshift give a benefit other than making you harder to recognize?

It´s BDs RR5 ability

RR5 Bonedancer: Bonedancer appearance is changed to skeletal form for 60 seconds to confuse enemy. When in skeletal form, the Bonedancer has a 75% chance of out-right resisting Nearsight and all Crowd Control spells. RUT: 600s
 

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xxManiacxx said:
It´s BDs RR5 ability

RR5 Bonedancer: Bonedancer appearance is changed to skeletal form for 60 seconds to confuse enemy. When in skeletal form, the Bonedancer has a 75% chance of out-right resisting Nearsight and all Crowd Control spells. RUT: 600s

ahhh
so it does have a benefit beyond the shapechange
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Watched the movie, and I found it interesting watching how a BD works in a group. It captured my attention from beginning to end, simply out of curiousity :>

It seems like most 8v8 fights are strange :> From watching 1-2-3 movie and this movie, all I see are lots of people that run around, everyone is interrupting everyone, the healers heal everything a lot, and then maybe when everyone's timers start to get used up, people start to die, and then they get rezzed quickly, and then eventually the healers start to die, then the group dies :> It does look like fun, but it looks like hard work!

Also, I would have liked to see some BD soloing action against various classes and maybe hints as to what they are doing while they are playing :>

Interesting.

Oli - Illu
 

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Edlina said:
Just because *you* aren't, doesn't mean no one is.

And I don't need an excuse to loose half the fights to a grp setup that's OP'ed (better than) compared to mine, and therefore should actually win most fights, ego or no ego, something I don't rly think you're the person to judge if I have or not :p


Exactly :D

Have a comment to this. Why should we win "all of the fights" when RR is your advantage and it's a partly experienced guild group against a 5 times pug with new people in almost each fight?

If we play together a year, reach a decent RR on the pac it's probably a different storry! QQ
 

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I liked the music, and you seem to be a nice guy, just playing a retarded class... someone has to do it.

But 12ish min in the vid, fight vs PE, you get interupted by Earth pet and a Boggart for over 1 min, and it dosent concern you at all, you keep insta life draining and spaming BL fluff and debuff everyone really shows how op your class is, everything insta. After that 1min perma interupting on you (none seems to help you untill) a mezz/stun hits the Boggart for 10secs, when the mezz/stun ends on Boggart, its back on you and interupting. 20 secs later after couple life drain instas and some debuffs and BL's you turn around and root it, thats after 1min and 30 secs:)

No moc needed, nothing, the interupts on you dosent seem to concern you at all, and I understand why.
 

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In addition to my previous post, I'd like to say that without a BD hib support is just too vulnerable to bard /baseline stun casters etc. Can debate it forever, but never reach a valid conclusion.. BM is easymode compared to zerk granted their better styles, and buffing in hib is ace - fortunately BD pwnz :p
 

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lol @ whines by the people that even didnt take time to watch it.. but i gues Remedy etc is fine not OP vs other classes ore anything.


not gona dl this xD!!!!!!! just wanna mess around ;:)Puke:
 

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Eden said:
I freaking hate bonedancers, >most< just perma adding on me and jumps around lajf tapping my sorry ass after i missed PA... and since vanish dont work VS their bloody commander i hate them even more.

lame or not, its a extremly cool class in fg and OP in solo-mode and i acully liked to see its pov.

Mids should be happy to have this class on their side, cuz if hib/alb had it you would understand some of the peoples frustration more ;)

ps. soloers from mid/alb must hate vampiirs with 50% fumble debuff, 40% evade buff, end-drain etc etc etc. so guess we are even in some lamish way :D

(based on my toughts as a nightshade)
best post in thread to bad it was made by a Rövtomte !xD EDEN gib new luri movie.:worthy: :worthy:
 

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Edlina said:
so if all variables were equal mid should always win

that is probably true, personally I don't think theres a great deal of difference between hib and mid running the best possible setups at an even rr, albeit mid has an edge even then.

also I don't see how you can talk about even variables when afaik no mid grp even comes close to having their entire support + casters at r10/11? (plenty of mocs/am/bofs etc) though maril already pointed this out:)

And a final note, you might deny making excuses up for losing etc but seriously almost everytime walkingissues die theres someone from the grp spewing shit about skillgard etc on irc. I cba to dig up old quotes but I remember a few funny examples of pre cluster when we (villagepeople) ran 3zerks bd savage or smthing and there were tears about 4 bl classes, some time later we ran 3sms bd and rm and the tune changed to olol 5 casters skillgard wants no challenge etc. Regardless of setup your grp will whine when you die so why not run the best setup possible and get the best of the whine, because seriously i'm not sure whats better winning the fight or reading the bs afterwards:)
 

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It's okay, but you do kinda 'get the drift' after the first couple of fights.

I guess time spent clearing pets off bd is time wasted that could be doing better stuff, and who cares/why bother? CC immunity 4tehwin.

Also, ya know, playing the Dirty Dancing soundtrack 15mins to make a non-funny joke on wordplay...
 

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Oldbone|Ramble said:
I liked the music, and you seem to be a nice guy, just playing a retarded class... someone has to do it.

But 12ish min in the vid, fight vs PE, you get interupted by Earth pet and a Boggart for over 1 min, and it dosent concern you at all, you keep insta life draining and spaming BL fluff and debuff everyone really shows how op your class is, everything insta. After that 1min perma interupting on you (none seems to help you untill) a mezz/stun hits the Boggart for 10secs, when the mezz/stun ends on Boggart, its back on you and interupting. 20 secs later after couple life drain instas and some debuffs and BL's you turn around and root it, thats after 1min and 30 secs:)

No moc needed, nothing, the interupts on you dosent seem to concern you at all, and I understand why.

i can only agree about those pets, but usually yeah it smarter to waste ur quickcast for sumtin else then rooting ml9 pets, since all but 2 spells are insta. I think i chose to qc root the theu outside los that fihgt instead of the pet. But we are also having sum teamplay problems, dont help eachtoher out with pets like we should etc, same thing with a cabby pet in another fight was running in and out of range like 3 times before i could get an sm to help me nuke it.
 

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a BD solo vid maybe is bad but personally I like group BD vids if they are played good. Big difference between the random insta lt soloer and a good playing BD in a group.
 

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Bah 8v8 vid :( Music WTF you give me a bad name playing that gay shit:touch: Tryed my best to watch it not my cup of tea sz:D
 

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roxor movie, ace played and roflcopter at whines :]
funnier to watch this than the sm pov in 1-2-3 movie, this footage+zerk footage wouldve roxed!
 

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Maril said:
In addition to my previous post, I'd like to say that without a BD hib support is just too vulnerable to bard /baseline stun casters etc. Can debate it forever, but never reach a valid conclusion..

Im sorry, but thats bullshit. Midgard-support is THE best support ingame, and Im talking Seers only here.

If you honestly think 'a bonedancer' balances it out, you're surely mistaken.

Mythic will never do it, but it would be far better if they put Banelord to Thanes and Valkyres. Giving it to Bonedancers was just stupid, and Mythic did what.. well everyone expected from them... give it to a 2nd caster (Warlock).
 

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Puppet said:
Im sorry, but thats bullshit. Midgard-support is THE best support ingame, and Im talking Seers only here.

If you honestly think 'a bonedancer' balances it out, you're surely mistaken.

Mythic will never do it, but it would be far better if they put Banelord to Thanes and Valkyres. Giving it to Bonedancers was just stupid, and Mythic did what.. well everyone expected from them... give it to a 2nd caster (Warlock).

chill pup, let me buy u a beer :cheers:
its only a game


ontopic : DLing!
 

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Puppet said:
Im sorry, but thats bullshit. Midgard-support is THE best support ingame, and Im talking Seers only here.

If you honestly think 'a bonedancer' balances it out, you're surely mistaken.

Mythic will never do it, but it would be far better if they put Banelord to Thanes and Valkyres. Giving it to Bonedancers was just stupid, and Mythic did what.. well everyone expected from them... give it to a 2nd caster (Warlock).
comparing 2 droods+bard to 2 healers(aug+pac) + sham means interupt advantage to hibs, but not way over the top too much, imo, tho adding a bd isnt excatly balancing it out. And dont think bls on casters in general are that op, except maybe for tendrils beeing "bugged" but thats retarded on any class. On warlock i actually think its justified, it will give them something to compete with in fg rvr and tbh dont think it impact that much on solo when they alrdy rape any class, but thats just my opinion from v little experience vs wls.
And giving bls to thanes instead of bds would actually be a good idea imo, not like it will ever happen but still :)
 

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1 bard 2 droods > 2 healers 1 sham when it comes to interupts, maybe not in utility tho, but its quite balanced imo.
Banelord to bd's is retarded yes, but pretty much nocare when it comes to warlock since atleast i consider it as a dps/support caster, hence it shouldnt be in range to use its banelords correctly since it will die to easy. This is regarding 8vs8 btw.
Just my opinion, never really met a decent wl anyway, but this is what i think would happen anyway. :D
 

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Such BD hatred! :eek2:

Now givf sorc whine thread please!
 

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Eregion said:
1 bard 2 droods > 2 healers 1 sham when it comes to interupts, maybe not in utility tho, but its quite balanced imo.
Banelord to bd's is retarded yes, but pretty much nocare when it comes to warlock since atleast i consider it as a dps/support caster, hence it shouldnt be in range to use its banelords correctly since it will die to easy. This is regarding 8vs8 btw.
Just my opinion, never really met a decent wl anyway, but this is what i think would happen anyway. :D

ye maybe more interupts, but the quality of interupts is less, shaman beign able to spam disease is like so much better than bard reapplying mes all the time, and shaman aoe root is longer duration also (not that that matters so much) but its better than the standard grey aoe root u get on droods. aswell as that shaman is far better class to have shears on than a druid. However ye the diffrence isnt so huge. the bd class is totally retarded though and shuld be taken out of the game along with warlocks. Mid always been op and always will be but with loss of bd itld be quite even imo :)
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
ye maybe more interupts, but the quality of interupts is less, shaman beign able to spam disease is like so much better than bard reapplying mes all the time, and shaman aoe root is longer duration also (not that that matters so much) but its better than the standard grey aoe root u get on droods. aswell as that shaman is far better class to have shears on than a druid. However ye the diffrence isnt so huge. the bd class is totally retarded though and shuld be taken out of the game along with warlocks. Mid always been op and always will be but with loss of bd itld be quite even imo :)
Disease isn't really a problem on toa servers though. :p
And i don't rly wanna agree that the quality of interupts is worse, rootspam is the best tool there is for interupt purposes, which hib have 2 ae versions of. Instalulls and instadd from bard is very handy aswell.
Nothing beats the util of pac healer though. :(
 

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At this point in the game, FG vs FG warfare is quite balanced, with Midgard coming out slightly on top due to strong and compact support and the ability to load up on a lot of damage dealers due to that fact. However, the situation is nowhere near as bad as some of the people (who really should know better) posting in this thread try to make it out to be. Skillgard whines are getting old. I realize this is a perfect excuse for said people to enlarge their e-peens (i.e. "if they win it's because they play in an OP realm the feckers, if we win it's pure skillzzz"), but it's time to stop flogging that old horse.
 

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