Bonedancer Sugestion

Would it be fair if BD's lifetap did not interupt.

  • Yes !

    Votes: 168 57.5%
  • No !

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rure

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Chronictank said:
i called them illeterate because they weren't even reading the whole post before they replied, prime example was your reply

back on topic, i tested a while back bone army spec and the pets would hit a target once/twice and then switch to something else before its dead.
Which is why i asked has anyone tested it rescently

Ic, I thought you meant the pets in the insta lifetap line to be bugged.
 

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Crocky said:
yeah because tank vs caster fight is really fair init.
charge, unCCable, 2500hp and interrupts from the same distance the caster can nuke.

if you want interrupts do it the old fashion way and use charges.

BL was made because of the whiny blademaster noobs back in the days.

ok fine, no interrupts if casters cant have overcaps or any toa bonuses.
 

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Elitestoner said:
ok fine, no interrupts if casters cant have overcaps or any toa bonuses.

nononono nerf tanks remove BL remove charge det purge give them sticks but leave the casters as they are atm bet he wants to say that :m00:
 

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Skirne said:
My experience with bonedancers from Hibernia.

MA: "Bonedancer targeted, assist!!!"
MA: "Assist FFS!!!"
BM1: "On him"
BM2: "On him, banespike ftw!!!"
*BD is horribly torn to pieces. Nice life.*

This goes for loosing and winning fights, the BD getting killed is kinda mandatory. :)

The strafe must be weak in that bd, tbh a good bd will be harder to kill tha that and espically cause they can strafe around like monkeys, and once someone stuns them so someone could actually land a hit, they purge it and run around spamming tendrils.
Bdz are the perfect interupting class.
 

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rure said:
I have never ever seen bugged BD pets run around break cc of mistake because they are bugged.

That's because they are so horribly bugged, not even idiots try to use them in rvr.

I'd agree with the opinion, if your going to nerf the one useful line, make sure you fix the issues with the other lines at the same time. Just making sure all the sub pets /assist the commander at all times would be a good start.
 

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VampiiricMist said:
is it possible for you to respec from 50 asshole-on-fh, 44 prick, 1 constructive... to abit higher constructive?

Someone on his period?

On a side note, quite amusing the Bd "Defenders" can only defend thier class by saying "lick my balls" and such like..go go constructive counter-arguments. Fact is BD's are fucking Overpowered FG vs FG, combined with the ml9 petting ololl I am melee immune SM's midgard has an overpowered Set-up, Trust me, playing the only caster in my set group..once I get a bd on me I can't get him the fuck off and thats me confined to taunting the whole fight and shouting at the assist train to take him down with his pd5 and Mastry of Strafe IV (Still interupting) of skill
 

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Gamah said:
Someone on his period?

On a side note, quite amusing the Bd "Defenders" can only defend thier class by saying "lick my balls" and such like..go go constructive counter-arguments. Fact is BD's are fucking Overpowered FG vs FG, combined with the ml9 petting ololl I am melee immune SM's midgard has an overpowered Set-up, Trust me, playing the only caster in my set group..once I get a bd on me I can't get him the fuck off and thats me confined to taunting the whole fight and shouting at the assist train to take him down with his pd5 and Mastry of Strafe IV (Still interupting) of skill
ive defended bds alot but it doesnt matter cuz all the clueless sheep keep copypasting what theyve seen sumone else write on fh. Not like "ure a typical bd" is a constructive argument coming from a person that clearly lacks any experience of playing or fighting the class (like its supposed to be played). The kind of bds u are refering to sound more like sticktappers, and aye thats no skill but they are hardly of any use in a fg.
Why wajn about pd5? all casters can get it. If ur assisttrain gets outstrafed, either get a new assisttrain or tell them not to perma /stick. maybe even have a 9s stunner assist them. 2 lights tanks still do enough dmg do kill a bd even with pd5, but if not use magicdmg-weps. Not like its very easy to interupt 2 or 3 targets while having 2 tanks on u, even if u dont die. You say u can do shit when u get a bd on you? No your a caster so its not rly sumtin u can do if dont have qc stun or ns, so tell ure grp to help, kite it back...and if its a sticktapper ull have it out of healrange in 2 secs and then it dies etc. Since bd can just sticktap anyone in ure grp regardless of skill u shud make sure u kill the bd first, hence if ure grp doesnt help u with the bd u shud ask them wtf they are doing.

On a sidenote, any mincer or skald could do the same as a sticktapper plus they are even harder to kill and they have alot of grputil stuff and probably do more dmg in the end.

And last....ontopic even....the debuff shudnt interupt, no debuff shud....but it doesnt rly matter because none of the bds i played against rly use it effective enuff to make it that op. And the banelord well ye...fix tendrils and i dont think its that op on a bd. If u remove it from bd sum other mid class shud get it, and wud cause as much wajn!
 

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Crocky said:
stopped reading after this. if you can't answer this yourself, then you're simply a moron.
maybe u shud have kept reading then moron. We are still talking about fg vs fg and pd5 is not more op on a bd then on any other caster.

Dont know who your are but honestly do have any real experience from this or are you just copypasting what you have seen other ppl on fh wajn about?
 

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PD5 is so overpowered I think we should ban all the bonedancers in the game. Alternatively you can use a matter weapon.
 

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Pipppi said:
ive defended bds alot but it doesnt matter cuz all the clueless sheep keep copypasting what theyve seen sumone else write on fh. Not like "ure a typical bd" is a constructive argument coming from a person that clearly lacks any experience of playing or fighting the class (like its supposed to be played). The kind of bds u are refering to sound more like sticktappers, and aye thats no skill but they are hardly of any use in a fg.
Why wajn about pd5? all casters can get it. If ur assisttrain gets outstrafed, either get a new assisttrain or tell them not to perma /stick. maybe even have a 9s stunner assist them. 2 lights tanks still do enough dmg do kill a bd even with pd5, but if not use magicdmg-weps. Not like its very easy to interupt 2 or 3 targets while having 2 tanks on u, even if u dont die. You say u can do shit when u get a bd on you? No your a caster so its not rly sumtin u can do if dont have qc stun or ns, so tell ure grp to help, kite it back...and if its a sticktapper ull have it out of healrange in 2 secs and then it dies etc. Since bd can just sticktap anyone in ure grp regardless of skill u shud make sure u kill the bd first, hence if ure grp doesnt help u with the bd u shud ask them wtf they are doing.

On a sidenote, any mincer or skald could do the same as a sticktapper plus they are even harder to kill and they have alot of grputil stuff and probably do more dmg in the end.

And last....ontopic even....the debuff shudnt interupt, no debuff shud....but it doesnt rly matter because none of the bds i played against rly use it effective enuff to make it that op. And the banelord well ye...fix tendrils and i dont think its that op on a bd. If u remove it from bd sum other mid class shud get it, and wud cause as much wajn!

Excuse me? I am not sure what you are getting at? Are you saying I "clearly lack any experience of playing or fighting the class "so my almost 4 years of play and the fact I have run with some of the best guilds around is a lack of experiance?

I have fought some of the "best" bd's around..the fact is they are interupting masters..4 second 1500+10% ranged lifetap..TWF, Banelord, 2 additional dedicated healer pets..no other caster gets all that (cept WL with the BL)..PD5 on top..ahh must be balanced because everyother caster can get it?

Try and "discredit" my experiance as much as you like...I fight BD's day in day out. I have also played one for a few weeks on a friends account enough to know that they are a fucking easy mode bullshit class.

Maybe you should try playing against them when they dump banelord, stick pets on something and perminatly lock down a caster.

Yea 2 light tanks can kill a caster, now lets add on top 2/3 rr8+ healers...suddenly it aint so easy? I am talking about in groups..you think about the BD only..take into account other players abilities as well..

As for a minstrel having the same interupt abilities as a bd? LoL I wish..4 instas on a 700 range, long recasts, a mez that is fixed at 3 seconds..Even compring the two is fucking lol. Bd is about 100x more superior than a strel because it can interupt 2 targets without lifting a finger off the WankerKey known as lifetap, let alone if it actully tried. Banelord is the best ML line in the game compared with the Warlord and Soj line minstrels get..I would rather be Banelord on my minstrel any day.

So K..I will go back to "taking my opinions from somewhere else"

You're a BD and from excal so I expect you to talk shit though but I'll go carry on being a noob who don't know what hes talking about.
 

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Gamah said:
You're a BD and from excal so I expect you to talk shit though but I'll go carry on being a noob who don't know what hes talking about.

haha sorry but after playing against prydwens 'best' bd's they are all pretty wank compared to pwnjoo playing it imho.

and its not like you can really whine about playing op classes after playing a rr9 minstrel in stealthwars then a bainshee in fgs ^^

its also worth noting that he does play against them day in day out.
 

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Kanim said:
haha sorry but after playing against prydwens 'best' bd's they are all pretty wank compared to pwnjoo playing it imho.

Yes but its not like playing a bd is hard :mad:
 

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I feel that it would be unfair if those instants no longer interrupted.
I also feel that BD's should get instant aoe stun and intercepting pets.
And their rr5 ability should make them immune to magic for 5 mins.
This just to make sure all retards can win playing this class.
Mythic did it for the Whorelocks, and it worked miracles to be honest.
Regards, Glottis
 

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theslayeruk said:
Have you actually tried playing a bd to its full potential?

Yeh ands its simply easy, i can play a bd to its full potential with my elbow.
 

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Eversmallx said:
Yes but its not like playing a bd is hard :mad:

can say the same about most daoc classes, is your chanter hard to play with baseline stun and dps debuff for example ?;)
 

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Kanim said:
haha sorry but after playing against prydwens 'best' bd's they are all pretty wank compared to pwnjoo playing it imho.

and its not like you can really whine about playing op classes after playing a rr9 minstrel in stealthwars then a bainshee in fgs ^^

its also worth noting that he does play against them day in day out.

Orly! Have you actully tried playing a minstrel solo in todays stealth wars? no? didn't think so. And ye I HAVE ONLY EVER PLAYED A BAINSHEE AND MINSTREL because they are the only two listed in my sig, Excal intelligence at its best..Maybe I should listed all the toons I dont play anymore for ultra "e-peen buffage"

Brite > Pwnjoo anyday..even if its just because he has a non-cock name.
 

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Eversmallx said:
Yeh ands its simply easy, i can play a bd to its full potential with my elbow.

Playing a bd to its full potential isn't easy at all and since the majority of prydwen bd's aren't very good it just proves my point. Interupting 3 people at once is very difficult in fg rvr. And forgive me but which bd have you played to its full potential if you don't mind me asking?
 

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Kanim said:
can say the same about most daoc classes, is your chanter hard to play with baseline stun and dps debuff for example ?;)

Ofc it is... really :(
 

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theslayeruk said:
Playing a bd to its full potential isn't easy at all and since the majority of prydwen bd's aren't very good it just proves my point. Interupting 3 people at once is very difficult in fg rvr. And forgive me but which bd have you played to its full potential if you don't mind me asking?

Well its a camlann bd, but its very simple to interupt 3 at once, used to take out 3-5 peeps at a time with it.. and it wasnt toa'd or ml'd :p

Mind you could be that some people on camlann would just stand in a TWF ;)
 

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theslayeruk said:
Playing a bd to its full potential isn't easy at all and since the majority of prydwen bd's aren't very good it just proves my point. Interupting 3 people at once is very difficult in fg rvr. And forgive me but which bd have you played to its full potential if you don't mind me asking?

If I can do it on my minstrel a bd cant do it by sitting on the keyboard.
 

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Gamah said:
Orly! Have you actully tried playing a minstrel solo in todays stealth wars? no? didn't think so. And ye I HAVE ONLY EVER PLAYED A BAINSHEE AND MINSTREL because they are the only two listed in my sig. Excal intelligence at its best..Brite > Pwnjoo anyday..even if its just because he has a non-cock name.

well I was simply using the same logic you did when you tried to belittle pwnjoo, he has only played bd and warrior since they are the ones in his sig right?

prydwen intelligence at its best aight.
 

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Eversmallx said:
Well its a camlann bd, but its very simple to interupt 3 at once, used to take out 3-5 peeps at a time with it.. and it wasnt toa'd or ml'd :p

Mind you could be that some people on camlann would just stand in a TWF ;)

Try playing a bd on a 'proper' server then in fg rvr before judging how easy the class is to play.
 

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theslayeruk said:
Try playing a bd on a 'proper' server then in fg rvr before judging how easy the class is to play.

tut tut :p

All i know of bd in fg is a forest guardian running around 75% immune spamming banelords and insta lt, hmm with the upcoming patch (1.81) i may have to level one :p
 

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Gamah said:
If I can do it on my minstrel a bd cant do it by sitting on the keyboard.

I'll ask the same question as I did to eversmall... Have you ever played a bonedancer on a normal server in fg rvr?
 

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Eversmallx said:
tut tut :p

All i know of bd in fg is a forest guardian running around 75% immune spamming banelords and insta lt, hmm with the upcoming patch (1.81) i may have to level one :p

First of all, its a fossil guardian. Secondly, a bonedancer is very easy to either kill or inhibit in fg rvr. The interupts and banelord is overpowered, but the above quote has absolutely 0 resemblence on how easy it is to play.
 
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