Asylum Seekers; Yay or Nay?

[throdgrain]

Gwadien you're such a homo

 

[Shagrat]

You seen those Royal Navy adverts? The ones where they go around helping people like 'WE'RE NOT JUST ABOUT KILLING'

Well.

That for a start.

Go to Greece, send a couple of ships, tell the Greeks, look, we know you guys are in the shit right now, but here's some help, we'll take some of the most vulnerable families out of the situation which @Trem described, and take them back to the UK, we'll stop by Gibraltar on the way back, we'll put loads near the border and tell the Spanish to buck up their ideas or we'll invade, I can't imagine anything worse than getting to 'safety' after being on a boat for ages to find out it's no better from where you just left.

We talk to the Frenchies, we divide the Calais bunch between us both, let's not be silly, it's 10k people, 5k each? - They all might not be the perfectest people in the world, but it's a situation dealt with - Whilst that's done, invest money into re securing it and making it absolutely people-trafficking proof - thus restoring the industries involved.

We relieve Eastern Europe of their issues, we take some, and we send some aid, but also we help the other Middle Eastern nations involved, we send more aid, OR in the best case situation, in each major middle eastern nation taking people in German, French, British, Italian, Spanish, etc etc etc camps are setup which are ran by the countries, which we give them a Britain away from Britain.

We have a proper meeting with all the nations, decide which is the best course of action is - get a unanimous decision from all parties - the decision will not be easy, and it will take much discussion and protest.

If it's not an unanimous decision, the parties which have voted go against the general consensus agrees NOT to help the people which have been voted against.

IE we help the Fuljuamamaks vs the Dkoakofmz, Russia can't arm Dkoakofmz, if they do, we nuke them, jokes, we buy all their russian dolls and we burn them, thus destroying the Russian economy.

It'll cost, it'll cost alot, but all those lives.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNmkr-1rTk0

and I'd also add to this that we'd get Saudi Arabia and a few of the other near neighbours of Syria and sit them down and tell them to sort their own fucking house out and help out their neighbours or we'd be having 'words'

 

[Scouse]

and I'd also add to this that we'd get Saudi Arabia and a few of the other near neighbours of Syria and sit them down and tell them to sort their own fucking house out and help out their neighbours or we'd be having 'words'

Saudi Arabia IS an islamic state. A well-armed one.

I don't think they're overly bothered.

 

[Embattle]

Yes, but Yugoslavia excepted, not in the modern era. But even back in the day, something like 2m Russians fled to the West during their civil war (and it was a lot harder to do back then) and half a million Spanish republicans fled to France. And in the case of the Yugoslavia, there's definitely an argument that the first response of any of the non-combatants should have been to get as far away from there as possible. If ever there was a good example of why "fighting for Syria" is a lousy idea for most people, its what happened in Bosnia and Kosovo.

All countries develop at different rates and always have, this effect is even more so when you divide the world demographically and look at things like continents, religions, etc. No doubt people want to leave these areas and get to safety especially non-combatants, although as I've said before the mix of those coming doesn't seem quite right when considering them as non-combatants. Personally I wouldn't say I would or wouldn't leave my country in the same situation, it is rather impossible to know for sure.

In the end these people can try and come, it doesn't mean those in the destination areas have to like it or accept it in any way and sadly the majority of people in England currently don't because behind all the idealism is the cold harsh reality of resources.

 

[Embattle]

Saudi Arabia IS an islamic state. A well-armed one.

I don't think they're overly bothered.

Spend more as a percent (10%) of GDP than any other nation that data is available for and 4th in terms of per capita spending which natural gives us and other countries benefits.

No doubt some more for "terrorist" funding as well on top of those figures.

 

[Scouse]

Spend more as a percent (10%) of GDP than any other nation that data is available for and 4th in terms of per capita spending which natural gives us and other countries benefits.

Spends it on what? Defence?

Or persecuting women / chopping peoples hands off / making nice spaces available for public hangings*?




*which my mate was badgered to go to when he worked there :\

 

[Job]

Showerthought post on Reddiy....'It's funny to see immigrants happy to be packed on a German train'

 

[Embattle]

Spends it on what? Defence?

Or persecuting women / chopping peoples hands off / making nice spaces available for public hangings*?

*which my mate was badgered to go to when he worked there :\

On defence, or what they call defence. I suspect the budget for such punishments come from the crime/legal budget.

I really don't feel very clean whenever we deal with the Saudi's.

 

[caLLous]

Showerthought post on Reddiy....'It's funny to see immigrants happy to be packed on a German train'

Got a link? I don't see it.

 

[caLLous]

I don't think you know where you are...

 

[Job]

Got a link? I don't see it.

Can"t find it either, poss deleted?

 

[caLLous]

Oh I thought you'd just made it up and tried to pass it off as an /r/showerthoughts post.

 

[Trem]

@Job are you a mental? You are in the wrong thread. @Raven stop encouraging him

I'm deleting your bell end VR posts Job you borderline nut job.

Edit - I've left @caLLous's double posts there just so he looks a bit mental.

 

[Lakih]

Sweden now has an open door policy, how do you Scandies feel about that, personally it saddens me to think the culture of the Nordic countries will be swamped by large numbers compared to population, only 10 milli9n Swedes, you could easily end up with 2 million immigrants in 5 years time.

In five years time we have welcomed our new immigrants, we have integrated them into our society and taught them our ways. They speak passable Swedish, they have started their own businesses, or teaching at our schools, or working in factories making sure our Abbas Sill is tightly packed in their glass jars.

They sing Små grodorna and drink nubbe and eat Sill at midsummer celebrations with their neighbors. They have shown us interesting new foods and things to do with spices that our often bland pallet can only dream of. Who knew lamb could be made to taste so good? And what are really chickpeas, does anyone know how that sorcery works? Fallafel, more like fallarätt (you have to know Swedish to get that one).

In five to ten years about half of them have returned to a more stable situation in the region they came from, the one's that stayed have kids of their own that play soccer with Kalle and Petter, eat pannkaka and ärtsoppa on Thursdays like the rest of the Swedes. They look forward to Mello and hope that the stupid Danes fail horribly in the euro cup qualifications even though they know that they will probably advance and Sweden (who just got so unlucky with the group (again)) just needed one more point to advance.

In five to ten years you will still walk around scared of anyone wearing a scarf, and are outraged that there's a kebab shop just around the corner of a school.

Theeeyyyrr takkkinggg ooooooour jeeeeerbs!

 

[throdgrain]

In five years time we have welcomed our new immigrants, we have integrated them into our society and taught them our ways. They speak passable Swedish, they have started their own businesses, or teaching at our schools, or working in factories making sure our Abbas Sill is tightly packed in their glass jars.

They sing Små grodorna and drink nubbe and eat Sill at midsummer celebrations with their neighbors. They have shown us interesting new foods and things to do with spices that our often bland pallet can only dream of. Who knew lamb could be made to taste so good? And what are really chickpeas, does anyone know how that sorcery works? Fallafel, more like fallarätt (you have to know Swedish to get that one).

In five to ten years about half of them have returned to a more stable situation in the region they came from, the one's that stayed have kids of their own that play soccer with Kalle and Petter, eat pannkaka and ärtsoppa on Thursdays like the rest of the Swedes. They look forward to Mello and hope that the stupid Danes fail horribly in the euro cup qualifications even though they know that they will probably advance and Sweden (who just got so unlucky with the group (again)) just needed one more point to advance.

In five to ten years you will still walk around scared of anyone wearing a scarf, and are outraged that there's a kebab shop just around the corner of a school.

LMFAO

 

[Raven]

Its much like the Indian "invasion" as job would call it to the UK, they have been a massive benefit to our society...Or West Indian, or Italian, or Chinese.

What the mouth breathers need to understand is that one of the greatest things any Briton can be proud of is our diverse and varied society that makes us what we are.

 

[Gwadien]

LMFAO

Why LMFAO?

Is it hard to comprehend people getting on with each other when they have different skin colours?

 

[Scouse]

I'm deleting your bell end VR posts Job you borderline nut job.

Oi! I like random posts. He's not Toht. He's not trying to derail the whole thread irreparably

 

[Raven]

I won't deny there are certain areas I wouldn't dream of entering in the Midlands or Yorkshire but that is more the fault of us rather than them.

 

[Scouse]

Who knew lamb could be made to taste so good?

Fucking *everyone* knows lamb can be made to taste that good. Right? Right?!

 

[Gwadien]

@Job are you a mental? You are in the wrong thread. @Raven stop encouraging him

I'm deleting your bell end VR posts Job you borderline nut job.

Edit - I've left @caLLous's double posts there just so he looks a bit mental.

So when I asked a mod to delete his totally posts about Muslims in the UK I was ignored?

Funny that.

 

[Raven]

Properly prepared lamb is nearly sexual.

Kebab is not properly prepared lamb.

 

[Gwadien]

I won't deny there are certain areas I wouldn't dream of entering in the Midlands or Yorkshire but that is more the fault of us rather than them.

I think the issue is when a minority begins to dominate.

Oxymoron or what.

When you have areas of people from all over the shop, when 'freshies' do move in, they tend to phase out of looking so inward - Look for other Asian people to associate theirselves with, not just Pakistanis or Muslims or what ever, and then eventually phase into assimilating with the rest of the society.

The issue lays where we like to make little ghettos such as an area called St Matthews in Leicester, where we like to dump all of the Somalians into high-rises and they never leave.

In all fairness, they've made it into quite an OK area - you wouldn't go there because you're not a part of it, but they have their own little economy going on, and my Mum works there and she promises that although the high-rises are horrible, inside they're amazing, they all clean up the 'communal' areas - stairs etc etc, but there's the issue, when you have your own little community going on with people that you know you can trust, why would you step outside of your comfort zone and try to get on with a bunch of people that look so harshly upon you?

Funnily enough, things like the EDL do wonders for our assimilation - the amount of people that came out to counter-protest (not just the 'militant' anti-fascists) but general people, that wouldn't normally talk to these people, were getting on.

 

[throdgrain]

Why LMFAO?

Is it hard to comprehend people getting on with each other when they have different skin colours?

What the fuck has it got to do with skin colour Mr I-learnt-PC-at-school?

 

[Scouse]

Funnily enough, things like the EDL do wonders for our assimilation - the amount of people that came out to counter-protest (not just the 'militant' anti-fascists) but general people, that wouldn't normally talk to these people, were getting on.

Another reason why the right to protest shouldn't be curbed.

 

[Moriath]

Saudi Arabia IS an islamic state. A well-armed one.

I don't think they're overly bothered.

They too busy bombing yemen.

 

[Moriath]

Fuck it. Only way to stop asylum seekers from syria is to stop the war. So many factions there. That the only way to do that is for the west to invade wipe everyone out and setup a new system.

Or the war will be on for another five years with thousands more refugees.

Or lets just sit and see p what happens.

 

[Gwadien]

What the fuck has it got to do with skin colour Mr I-learnt-PC-at-school?

Everything Mr I-associate-myself-with-a-group-of-people-which-is-openly-racist

 

[Raven]

Look at him, with his fancy phone.



*stolen from the BBC.

 

[Lakih]

Fucking *everyone* knows lamb can be made to taste that good. Right? Right?!

It's actually from an old children's song from the 80s that lamb is dry and boring. I love lamb myself and I wish I could cook it properly. I've tried doing it myself once and it came out... dry and boring