An albs perspective

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Pin
Next patch you don't need to kill the shaman to drop the middy end buff either. 1k range

it's 1.5

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.anubis
it's 1.5

errr yeah... getting confused with alb's ghetto version again

 

[bracken_woodman]

Originally posted by sorusi
some stuff

Aww and you had been doing so well recently - you'd started making sensible, balanced posts, had cut down on slagging off an entire realm and had managed to sound just a little less up your own arse. I was even thinking I might start giving you a salute on the battle field if you stuck with your zerker after patch day. But then you went and spoiled it...

 

[Asha]

A lot of this thread is just bs, really funny, but bs.

I can’t believe Arth still so clueless. Paladins aren’t gimped compaired to other end buffers, next patch we’re going to have the best end regen. A good paladin is great in a group, maybe ask Parlain or Gwal for some tips Yes no det sucks, but you should have 2 demezzers in group tbh. On cleric I have no det (obviously) and I don’t spend ages standing around mezzed. Your whole group shouldn’t get cast-mezzed as you should immediately spread on sight of an enemy. Insta mez doesn’t bother me, maybe I am playing a different game.

SoS – it’s amazing how many albs don’t understand it. It’s really not a difficult concept. You can move with sos, but you can also still be mezzed/stunned as far as melee/casting goes. It has nothting to do with in combat before or after. You can do insta heals when mezzed/stunned with sos on. Might be a bug, but I don’t care. There is a bug sometimes where members of the group don’t get sos – I think sometimes the mincer doesn’t get it but the group does. However, it’s pretty rare and relogging/redoing group seems to fix it. It sucks when it happens but it certainly doesn’t happen that often.

Cgr, you’re cute, but really please stop talking about smite line, cause you don’t know
First. PBAOE mez is on a 5 min timer. It used to be good because you could use it several times in a fight and because resists were much much much much lower and det didn’t exist.
Second. It’s resisted 75% of the time. So you have NP 3 tanks assisting on you.. hmmm you’re lucky and manage to mez 1/3, hmmm you’re still fucked because you have a tank with end regen on you who if he is in NP has PF.
Third. Interupt casters with smite??? LOL I am sure you would like that. HI I am a CLERIC come gank me PLEASE. First thing that is going to happen is you’re going to have a healer insta mez/stun you. Then you’re going to have all tanks on you. I would love to see group chat if a smite cleric touched Xana. The best way to work effectively as a cleric is to go unnoticed for as long as you can.
Forth. If you use your crap pbaoe mez on a tank you’re just giving it mez immunity to a real mez.
Fifith. If you’re in a decent group, your sorc has already mezzed them anyhow so they are IMMUNE.
Sixth. You don’t need to spec smite to use it for interupt. And there is almost no situtation against mid tank group that you would use aoe smite. Against hib pbaoe maybe, but if they are MOC’ing then it’s useless and it’s better to spam spread heals.

Why spec rejuv/enhan? Because the resist buffs and the heal proc thing are important. You cannot go back to apk every ten mins. You’ll get caught out and it’s just not fun. Also you do get losses while fighting so you need to rebuff fast. We use bots more than most I would say but we always go with resists from a cleric in group. The smite line is just a joke, really. I have specced out of 31 smite to 3 smite and I hate it, but it’s needed so I did it. Why not have one rejuv/enhan one rejuv/smite ? In BF the answer is simple, we used to have a rejuv/ehan&rejuv/smite team but one left and now our clerics are on at random times so it’s pretty much impossible to set that up. Maybe we’re not as leet as NP, but maybe we don’t wanna be Maybe we wanna play with our friends who play when they have time. When we have a balanced group, we beat all other mids groups if ras are up (unless we fuck up ofc), and we have a good fight if they are down, I can live with that. Against Hibs, I don’t feel underpowered. Think savages need a little nerf (removing det would be fair imo) in addition to the end buff nerf, then things will be a lot more balanced…

 

[Asha]

sorusi makes me sad

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by dakeyras
Then please explain why the top Alb groups on Prydwen run back to apk after a hard fight where both BoF's were used...only to reappear 30 mins later?

Just yesterday I was in group of 5 that caught a fairly high RR Alb group on their way back for their pk 'rest'. 2 savages, warrior, shaman and supp bd. RR's were all 4/5. We wiped the Alb group (RR5-8) with only 1 death and it was easy. No healer in group vs 2 clerics. We had Ichor for CC and crappy shammy heals.

No BoF/SoS=dead Albs against Mid!

BoF is overpowered imo but it is essential the way things are at the moment.

'no bof/sos= dead albs agains mids'

yup and i have green pigs with yellow dots at home which can fly....

see how easy it is to talk bullshit?

please edit and delete that your making a complete fool out of yourself

 

[Trubble]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
'no bof/sos= dead albs agains mids'

yup and i have green pigs with yellow dots at home which can fly....

see how easy it is to talk bullshit?

please edit and delete that your making a complete fool out of yourself

Please explain why you think he is so wrong.

 

[stunned]

It's a shame that the need-to-be-l33t attitude of so many mids has meant that ... [/B]

Maybe they are just bored of Alb whines and 10 Fg zergs, like me ...

You shouldnt be allowed to rvr without balanced groups, kinda like a driver licence.

Störst kör först, a good swedish expression I wont bother translating kinda sums up daily rvr. But m3tham0rf0sis(spelling4tehwin) suggests it means who need good groups when You can bring 100 ppl.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Forau
[...] (all the no-skill-4-savage-random-groups) will die a humiliating death and then move to alb and roll a minstrel [...]

Albion/Prydwen
Stubban - Guardian - L4X Minstrel - In training.

Um, you were saying? It seems to me your statement boils down to "minstrel = FotM" and you play one?

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Pin
Next patch you don't need to kill the shaman to drop the middy end buff either. 1k range

Hmm... So you mean, chase him off?

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Belomar
Hmm... So you mean, chase him off?

and when mid tanks chase your support they go out of range of the shaman casting away at the back (same as the other realms have to deal with)

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
'no bof/sos= dead albs agains mids'

yup and i have green pigs with yellow dots at home which can fly....

see how easy it is to talk bullshit?

please edit and delete that your making a complete fool out of yourself

Sorry, friend, without addressing any of his points, I don't see how you can say he is talking bullshit? All I see is you digging yourself into a hole.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by stunned
Maybe they are just bored of Alb whines and 10 Fg zergs, like me ...

You shouldnt be allowed to rvr without balanced groups, kinda like a driver licence.

Störst kör först, a good swedish expression I wont bother translating kinda sums up daily rvr. But m3tham0rf0sis(spelling4tehwin) suggests it means who need good groups when You can bring 100 ppl.

Jou ma se groot doos. I won't bother translating either

 

[Ailyn]

As its allready is alot of whine and pointless albposts here im gonna take my chance and make a

+1 FARMPOST

 

[Ialkarn]

I don't see why mids should phear end regen nerf in next patch
when they ' play whit savages whit end heal usable every 5 secs...

About supports whitout end:well the only reason cause a good group lose stick on an healer its the overpowered disease,and a good group should have all tanks whit prevent flight;
so you aren't supposed to lose a target if you assisting/sticking him.

I 'm not so sure if to go for a shammy next patch 'll be the leet thing to do.
I still consider more dangerous a mending healer.

 

[Ialkarn]

Another thing ppl seem to forget:
in next patch alb tanks gonna be racial gimped in front of trolls and firborgs in terms of Weapon Skills,cause they lacking of base str points.
And nothing they ll be able to do about that.
1,62=mid nerf? I 'm not so sure.

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by Trubble
Please explain why you think he is so wrong.

oh my fucking god....

my group kills LOADS AND LOADS without BOF and SOS, i only use sos when we have been mezzed with a good mez and even THEN if i dont have it we win most of the time...

like we only meet one fg of mids every 30 mins, and die when these RA's are not up... yeah right

I've seen mids using ALL their purge's/ips/prs and we killed them without using ANY ra's

and yes sos and bof makes fights alot easier but please dont say albs cant win vs mids without sos/bof, it really makes me laugh


and prydwen albs sitting in pk waiting for SOS and BOF???
nice try but i am *NOT* amused...

 

[Rollie_David]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron


I've seen mids using ALL their purge's/ips/prs and we killed them without using ANY ra's

yeah but middy/prydwen has a rr9 as the highest rp person

try excal mids with multiple rr9/10 and 2 rr11

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
oh my fucking god....

my group kills LOADS AND LOADS without BOF and SOS, i only use sos when we have been mezzed with a good mez and even THEN if i dont have it we win most of the time...

like we only meet one fg of mids every 30 mins, and die when these RA's are not up... yeah right

I've seen mids using ALL their purge's/ips/prs and we killed them without using ANY ra's

and yes sos and bof makes fights alot easier but please dont say albs cant win vs mids without sos/bof, it really makes me laugh


and prydwen albs sitting in pk waiting for SOS and BOF???
nice try but i am *NOT* amused...

/point soruzi's sig.

 

[otho]

To the original poster;
Thanks for a good post, it was not the normal whine. Even I, a forum lourker, felt it was worth a reply.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Strapon Sally
yeah but middy/prydwen has a rr9 as the highest rp person

try excal mids with multiple rr9/10 and 2 rr11

Because of more people on server and a few high rr mids quit playing.

 

[Jergiot]

edit: nvm, ppl only believe what they wanna believe anyway.

 

[Arthwyr]

Originally posted by Asha
A lot of this thread is just bs, really funny, but bs.

I can’t believe Arth still so clueless. Paladins aren’t gimped compaired to other end buffers, next patch we’re going to have the best end regen. A good paladin is great in a group, maybe ask Parlain or Gwal for some tips Yes no det sucks, but you should have 2 demezzers in group tbh. On cleric I have no det (obviously) and I don’t spend ages standing around mezzed. Your whole group shouldn’t get cast-mezzed as you should immediately spread on sight of an enemy. Insta mez doesn’t bother me, maybe I am playing a different game.
etc ...

Right where did I say Alb endurance chant is bad and paladins are gimped ... My comparison between mid and alb endurance regen stands with the fact that alb Endurance chant currently has less range then the mid one since the mid one is a buff and that it stops working for the entire group once the paladin is mezzed wich another disadvantage compared to the buff form. As for you claiming that I'm a "bad" paladin. You never grouped with me and believe me I wouldnt group with you either since I tend to avoid people who leach from a 2 people group in darkness fals, ruin the bafcode so they get 3 purple adds next pull, stand around to watch em die and then spam laugh, run off followed by a pm to gloat over the achievement. Don't know where you come from but over here that qualifies you as a bitch.

 

[Asha]

The gist of your post was that paladins aren't as good as other end buffs. I have heard you whining about it before in game tbh. The clueless was really about SoS which I can't believe you don't know how it works after a year. No wonder you have problems.

I have no idea what you are talking about DF, I don't spam laugh and I don't pve with random ppl. You're talking bs as usual.

 

[Arthwyr]

Originally posted by Asha
The gist of your post was that paladins aren't as good as other end buffs. I have heard you whining about it before in game tbh. The clueless was really about SoS which I can't believe you don't know how it works after a year. No wonder you have problems.

I have no idea what you are talking about DF, I don't spam laugh and I don't pve with random ppl. You're talking bs as usual.

Read Again if you think thats the gist of the post. The Gist of the post is that its easier to deprive a group of endurance regeneration in albion then it is on mid. (Out of range, Out of mana, mez or stun, death of the pally)I never whined about the quality of the paladin endurance regeneration as it is fine and in pve it makes little difference. Whine regarding the paladin comign from me would be the about the lack of determination OR cheap purge.
I perfectly know how SOS works or better how SOS should work. I posted what I was clear about and what I was not clear about (and would like to test) a few pages earlier. After all I just want to find out where the bug kicks in and have an anwser for myself. Ofcourse I forgot you know all about how the bug works so be so kind to anwser my questions Oh guru of SOS and while you are at it inform the mythic coding team whats wrong, maybe even spare 5 minutes of your time and rewrite the code yourself.

Darkness falls.
Character 1: Gawain
Character 2: Blessing Thunder (cleric)
Mobs Inquisitors near hulks
You werent with random people the group was mostly blackfalcons, some gol too.
Want the screenshots too ? I bet I still have a couple of the incident somewhere. And if it wasn't you I suggest you stop lending out your characters to ppl who do laughspam at deaths they are responsible for, someone might get the wrong idea about you.

And yes I am getting pretty sick of certain people in a certain guild taking cheap shots at others every chance they get suggest you only stick your nose in the business of your own characters instead of treating albion as if its your own private little playground as the darknes falls incident is not a isolated case.
Have a nice day.

 

[cougar-]

Originally posted by Strapon Sally
yeah but middy/prydwen has a rr9 as the highest rp person

try excal mids with multiple rr9/10 and 2 rr11

rr9 or rr10 dont realy matter, just 10 more realmskill points, or do you mean its more skilled players on excal? i thought only classes mattered?

 

[Asha]

oooh that wasn't me, but give ss, I wanna laugh.

 

[Hatjitjai]

Originally posted by Arthwyr
Right where did I say Alb endurance chant is bad and paladins are gimped ... My comparison between mid and alb endurance regen stands with the fact that alb Endurance chant currently has less range then the mid one since the mid one is a buff and that it stops working for the entire group once the paladin is mezzed wich another disadvantage compared to the buff form. As for you claiming that I'm a "bad" paladin. You never grouped with me and believe me I wouldnt group with you either since I tend to avoid people who leach from a 2 people group in darkness fals, ruin the bafcode so they get 3 purple adds next pull, stand around to watch em die and then spam laugh, run off followed by a pm to gloat over the achievement. Don't know where you come from but over here that qualifies you as a bitch.

1st of all it wasnt asha playing,it was a guildmate who was lvling the char for her while she was away and lost her previous char : KATE

2nd u forget 1 detail about the whole df thing,before u and your good friend envenom died,how many insults did the both of u typ towards the person playing asha?( things like : U are a fucking noob,I'm the great envenom,every realm knows me,enemies fear me etc.i can solo BF by myself)

conclusion : u think after all those insults he wouldnt laugh his fucking ass off and rezz u 2 instead? right

ps. dont try to make other ppl look bad by leaving parts of the story out

 

[Hatjitjai]

I wish albs could vote arthwyr out of albion,like his past 2 guilds voted him out of the guild

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Arthwyr
You never grouped with me and believe me I wouldnt group with you either since I tend to avoid people who leach from a 2 people group in darkness fals, ruin the bafcode so they get 3 purple adds next pull, stand around to watch em die and then spam laugh, run off followed by a pm to gloat over the achievement.

ahahaha you showing how much a liar you are.

Yes that thing happened for real but was me playing Asha,and you and your retard friend Envenom knew that coz I told both
and coz I got racist insults as italian and to all my family.

Btw yes I did that coz my group was moving up from hulks and we accidentaly agroed a mob from your xp spot:we said sorry but that didn't stop your friend to cover ppl whit insults.

so yes I violated the COC to puny a couple of idiots like you.

Originally posted by Arthwyr

Don't know where you come from but over here that qualifies you as a bitch.

I know very well where you come from,and everything you did qualifies you as a whiner and as a loser.