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loxleyhood

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Originally posted by wiseguy1
So in your oppinion if im behind a caster he should be able to cast spells on me? dont u think thats wrong since if a caster is behing me i cant hit him? Why should he have this advantage when others dont have it? fail to see the logic in this

If you're that close shouldn't you be hitting the caster anyways?
 
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wiseguy1

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Originally posted by Arnor
i give fucking UP!


i cant be arsed to try to explain this to you anymore, fucks sake.

ask belomar how it works or whatever, I give up on you

:)

Well u havent explained anything.. all u have done is stated what u think is cheating and after that u start to call everyone noob, retard.. etc..
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by nalistah
I think its just you that dont know how the /face works, and try to QC in the most bizarre situations, like when the enemy is passing right thru u etc. ;O

Go out practice some more, and u will see that u can land a QC mezz even if he strafe around u, if you just pull it of in the right moment.

try again, come back later, thx m8 (or should i say n00b? :p) =]



1v1, with my mate, he stands in melee range,i face, i qc(or not, hes not attacking), he moves, spell failed. HARD TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND SCATBRAIN?
 
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wiseguy1

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Originally posted by loxleyhood
If you're that close shouldn't you be hitting the caster anyways?

Arnor says im not alowed.. cus that would be exploiting crappy coding.. and i dont wanna be a cheater.. :)
 
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nalistah

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Originally posted by Arnor
1v1, with my mate, he stands in melee range,i face, i qc(or not, hes not attacking), he moves, spell failed. HARD TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND SCATBRAIN?

you should try /FACE, not /STICK ... haha :p,
Nah, seriosly, if you /FACE someone, QC, and just the fact that the opponent MOVES failes your spell, I think you should delete your char and re-create it, coz u must be utterly bugged/gimped. I've never had that kind of probs when ive played caster lately.. even if that doesnt happen to often :eek:

(and come on, my grandma can come up with better insults/personal attacks, then u:p)
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by nalistah
you should try /FACE, not /STICK ... haha :p,
Nah, seriosly, if you /FACE someone, QC, and just the fact that the opponent MOVES failes your spell, I think you should delete your char and re-create it, coz u must be utterly bugged/gimped. I've never had that kind of probs when ive played caster lately.. even if that doesnt happen to often :eek:


I dont even understand why I fucking bother


same as wisetard you draw the conclusion that if it hasnt happened to you, it cant happen ever :rolleyes:
 
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Belomar

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Right, I could easily be reduced to the same smoldering wreck Arnor just was because of the amazing amount of ignorance being displayed in this thread, but I've decided to take it easy. Suffice to say, notice that all the people who reply here saying it's not a big issue are people who have not played a caster properly in RvR.

Let me tell you one thing. I have played my caster a lot in RvR, both in groups and solo. I know the frustration of playing a caster, but I still enjoy it and continue doing it. But one of the most annoying fucking things is when I pop MoC (15 secs once every 30 minutes, 24 points to buy), only to have the tank in question exploit game mechanics so I only land a fraction of my nukes while he kills me with unstyled hits. Try to qc, and the same thing happens.

And no, /face doesn't solve it, because /face is client-side and thus prone to lag. This means that if a tank is running through me as I am casting, there is a great risk that /face will not react quickly enough, and my nuke will not hit since line of sight is determined server-side.

One last thing -- yes, strafing around is lame (don't you just love people who even strafe in duels?). I would post a link to a movie of a duel between Whyp and Talivar to show you how it's really done (5+ minutes of blocking and hitting, and none of them turn an inch throughout the entire fight), but I lost that one. :(
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by Belomar
Right, I could easily be reduced to the same smoldering wreck Arnor just was because of the amazing amount of ignorance being displayed in this thread, but I've decided to take it easy. Suffice to say, notice that all the people who reply here saying it's not a big issue are people who have not played a caster properly in RvR.

Let me tell you one thing. I have played my caster a lot in RvR, both in groups and solo. I know the frustration of playing a caster, but I still enjoy it and continue doing it. But one of the most annoying fucking things is when I pop MoC (15 secs once every 30 minutes, 24 points to buy), only to have the tank in question exploit game mechanics so I only land a fraction of my nukes while he kills me with unstyled hits. Try to qc, and the same thing happens.

And no, /face doesn't solve it, because /face is client-side and thus prone to lag. This means that if a tank is running through me as I am casting, there is a great risk that /face will not react quickly enough, and my nuke will not hit since line of sight is determined server-side.

One last thing -- yes, strafing around is lame (don't you just love people who even strafe in duels?). I would post a link to a movie of a duel between Whyp and Talivar to show you how it's really done (5+ minutes of blocking and hitting, and none of them turn an inch throughout the entire fight), but I lost that one. :(


ahh, thanks mate. for doing what I could not be arsed to do
 
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tuathra

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i think its wierd that hib groups need to whine about those nice blackcloaked rps

its like xmas, u just get rps from them faster than santa can hand out gifts, even if uve been good all year..

- tua
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by Arnor
skilled or exploiting crappy coding?

skilled at exploiting crappy coding, we all become it eventually :rolleyes:
 
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wiseguy1

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Originally posted by Belomar
Right, I could easily be reduced to the same smoldering wreck Arnor just was because of the amazing amount of ignorance being displayed in this thread, but I've decided to take it easy. Suffice to say, notice that all the people who reply here saying it's not a big issue are people who have not played a caster properly in RvR.

Let me tell you one thing. I have played my caster a lot in RvR, both in groups and solo. I know the frustration of playing a caster, but I still enjoy it and continue doing it. But one of the most annoying fucking things is when I pop MoC (15 secs once every 30 minutes, 24 points to buy), only to have the tank in question exploit game mechanics so I only land a fraction of my nukes while he kills me with unstyled hits. Try to qc, and the same thing happens.

And no, /face doesn't solve it, because /face is client-side and thus prone to lag. This means that if a tank is running through me as I am casting, there is a great risk that /face will not react quickly enough, and my nuke will not hit since line of sight is determined server-side.

One last thing -- yes, strafing around is lame (don't you just love people who even strafe in duels?). I would post a link to a movie of a duel between Whyp and Talivar to show you how it's really done (5+ minutes of blocking and hitting, and none of them turn an inch throughout the entire fight), but I lost that one. :(

1st i understand what u are saying and i understand that this can be annoying as hell but if this is something that occurs cuz of lag, then ppl by saying that its lame/cheat to move cuz u cant keep me in view also mean that its lame/cheating to hit a person who laggs and cant defend himself in regular combat? thats basicly the same thing..
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by wiseguy1
1st i understand what u are saying and i understand that this can be annoying as hell but if this is something that occurs cuz of lag, then ppl by saying that its lame/cheat to move cuz u cant keep me in view also mean that its lame/cheating to hit a person who laggs and cant defend himself in regular combat? thats basicly the same thing..


not lag afaik, when my mate and i tried it there was NO lag, could try again though
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Arnor
should only take what, ~2mins

Hard to get used to not 2shoot ppl anymore?

Some ppl just cant take a nerf :eek:
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by wiseguy1
1st i understand what u are saying and i understand that this can be annoying as hell but if this is something that occurs cuz of lag
This is a distributed game running on the Internet. There is always lag. There is always a consistency issue involved.

then ppl by saying that its lame/cheat to move cuz u cant keep me in view also mean that its lame/cheating to hit a person who laggs and cant defend himself in regular combat? thats basicly the same thing..
I am not talking about people who lag so that they are unable to play, I am saying this problem exists even for people with extremely good connections. And this problem is much worse for casters than melee chars, since you are pretty much dependent on not making a mistake and getting off that qc or MoC or you are dead, whereas a tank can afford to miss a style or two due to the target being out of range.
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Hard to get used to not 2shoot ppl anymore?

Some ppl just cant take a nerf :eek:
Haha, that's rich coming from a guy playing a savage (nerf inc!) and a shadowblade (nerf already in effect).
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Belomar
Haha, that's rich coming from a guy playing a savage (nerf inc!) and a shadowblade (nerf already in effect).

And you know how much i play my savage? maybe once a week when farming in df

And shadowblade yeah i still play him, have not quit like many zerkers/sb so whats your point?
 
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Belomar

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My point is that you are the biggest infiltrator (and DF!) whiner ever to graze this forum. Can't take not being the top dog of the assassins anymore?
 
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wiseguy1

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Originally posted by Belomar
This is a distributed game running on the Internet. There is always lag. There is always a consistency issue involved.

Exactley.. and this is the reason that this cannot be called cheating/or bug abusing.. witch is what i been saying all along. I know how annoying lag is and how much it destroys the game(playing 2 acc on 33k conn lag is my middle name)

Originally posted by Belomar
I am not talking about people who lag so that they are unable to play, I am saying this problem exists even for people with extremely good connections. And this problem is much worse for casters than melee chars, since you are pretty much dependent on not making a mistake and getting off that qc or MoC or you are dead, whereas a tank can afford to miss a style or two due to the target being out of range.

Well i ofc its importent as hell to nail all nukes as a caster(or get all styles in as a kobbie sb vs infs :) ).. but its not cheating or bug abusing doing something like this.. insted whine about fixing /face, making it server side or whatever would fix it, insted of accusing ppl of cheating.
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Hard to get used to not 2shoot ppl anymore?

Some ppl just cant take a nerf :eek:


are you a) hinting at casters wtfpwning @ release or b) hint at my zerker?


either way, your a fucking moron. I've played my zerker with cap quick ALL along, not utilizing the bugged la-spec like I could have.
Didnt have a caster at release etc incase you ment a)


My zerker never has been a 2hitting monster, It isnt FUN to play with such a char, hence I dont do it.

Now kindly, fuck the hell off, your starting to annoy me
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Belomar
My point is that you are the biggest infiltrator (and DF!) whiner ever to graze this forum. Can't take not being the top dog of the assassins anymore?

If i couldn't take it would i still play my sb?

Cba to whine about infils we all know it wont help to whine here, the only reason is that ppl like you get so upset about it.
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Arnor
My zerker never has been a 2hitting monster, It isnt FUN to play with such a char, hence I dont do it.

Ah that's why you play him so much now then?

Remember how you played him alot pre la nerf and now you dont.

You become boored of the class same day 1.62 was realesed? wierd
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Ah that's why you play him so much now then?

Remember how you played him alot pre la nerf and now you dont.

You become boored of the class same day 1.62 was realesed? wierd


i still play him the same % as before, its just that I dont have that much time for daoc now.


the fuck your talking about with 1.62 going live? that was the day I came back to mid, played my zerker from 6l2 to 6l8 before I stopped with daoc alltogether, only to come back and play him again now.

goddamn you suck with your assumptions and your conclusions based on shit.
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Arnor
i still play him the same % as before, its just that I dont have that much time for daoc now.

the fuck your talking about with 1.62 going live? that was the day I came back to mid, played my zerker from 6l2 to 6l8 before I stopped with daoc alltogether, only to come back and play him again now.

goddamn you suck with your assumptions and your conclusions based on shit.

To me it's sounds like you just can't take not being overpowerd anymore :eek:

A guy that cries cause he's caster dont wtfpwn everything like your Zerker used to do.

Like the sb/zerkers and now savages talking about how much they love the class and then sudenly when nerfed gets bored/don't have time to play.

Well late now and bedtime for me, please don't cry yourself to sleep over a game.



Oh and I respect your opinions and i hope you do respect my opinion that you just an ex zerker that cant take a nerf.
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
To me it's sounds like you just can't take not being overpowerd anymore :eek:

A guy that cries cause he's caster dont wtfpwn everything like your Zerker used to do.

Like the sb/zerkers and now savages talking about how much they love the class and then sudenly when nerfed gets bored/don't have time to play.

Well late now and bedtime for me, please don't cry yourself to sleep over a game.



Oh and I respect your opinions and i hope you do respect my opinion that you just an ex zerker that cant take a nerf.

he still plays his zerker, which part of that don't you understand?
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
To me it's sounds like you just can't take not being overpowerd anymore :eek:

A guy that cries cause he's caster dont wtfpwn everything like your Zerker used to do.

Like the sb/zerkers and now savages talking about how much they love the class and then sudenly when nerfed gets bored/don't have time to play.

Well late now and bedtime for me, please don't cry yourself to sleep over a game.



Oh and I respect your opinions and i hope you do respect my opinion that you just an ex zerker that cant take a nerf.


yeah, im fotm, thats why I lvled my sm and my rm to 50 and im now lvling a reaver and a mincer, you are a fucking ignorant bastard if you cant understand that I kept playing through the nerf, when the nerf hit the numbers of zerkers that still played could be counted on one hand, I was one of them.


so fuck off and stop drawing conclusions thats based on NOTHING
 
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belth

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Arnor's "new attitude" is, interesting, to say atleast...
 
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