Albion BGer

[Graendel]

From cleric pov I prefer friar. If it's not Thowen playing it.

 

[Straef]

From cleric pov I prefer friar. If it's not Thowen playing it.

Just so you can make them do all the healing ;<

 

[Zede]

Ran an alliance pug last night ( with friar) had no problem taking out the likes of Random Roleplayers repetedly. We lost our friar about 10pm and got a BG arms.

No real change of tactics, but we ended up losing a lot quite soon after the change, so go figure !


// What was the arms Ras? i bet he didnt had DD / Soldiers barricade yes i dont have them aswell but ill as soon as i get a fix grp going with i hope should not be a problem in 1.83 still im still thinking if i should play pure offensive arms on 1.83 to assist on the pala with celeb ( pala + arms FTW ) ;D

how the fuck is a BGing arms EVER gonna help you when you have 2 assisting SMs ??

the amount of people who simply dont have a bloody clue how high end rvr works is amazing. seriously, there is no point in running a top end rvr grp thats supposed to compete with the other " top" rvr grps if you dont have a friar. Only exception is running a rr5 tic with baod3 or multiple theurgs/cabas with baod - pigs flying has a higher probability.

run random pugs with who ever, and believe a bg pally/arms/reaver is better, your only deluding yourself.

 

[Pirkel]

the amount of people who simply dont have a bloody clue how high end rvr works is amazing.

Listen to the man ... he is the allknowing allpwning god of RvR.

Or atleast he thinks so.

 

[Zede]

Listen to the man ... he is the allknowing allpwning god of RvR.

Or atleast he thinks so.

get ANY person from any of the mid/hib set grps that run in rvr - and ask them what they would rather face, friar or pally in grp.


does it takes a genius at rvr like me to tell you the answer ?

with brains like yours........

 

[Weld]

From cleric pov I prefer friar.

Agree. Without friar resist impossible to outheal Stajjijjon Grawen and other high rr nukers. Arms, pala , reaver has far more utility but 24%resist to vital importance.

vs pure tankgroup pala, arms better ofc.

 

[Straef]

I'd say... hmmmm, ehrrr... uhhhgg... Pala!









Oh, btw, lfg!

 

[mikke]

Well, imo a friar would be best, due to end reduction, taunt, ST, ressists, arties (like zo, egg, battler\malice etc..), other ra's. and other then that it can go deffencive or offencive, if you want nice dmg, you can go a staff spec, and if you want to heal, you can go with a rej spec..

they simply pwn

 

[Kinag]

if you want nice dmg, you can go a staff spec.

they simply pwn

Have you played a Friar in RvR lately? ;P

Only nice damage you're getting is versus casters and the occasional BMs.

You're going to hit blademasters fast, but they got to much hp and probably great healers so you won't take them down unless druids are under amazing interuption.

Casters is a no go as you'll be running with your weaker targets to BG them.

 

[Eregion]

how the fuck is a BGing arms EVER gonna help you when you have 2 assisting SMs ??

the amount of people who simply dont have a bloody clue how high end rvr works is amazing. seriously, there is no point in running a top end rvr grp thats supposed to compete with the other " top" rvr grps if you dont have a friar. Only exception is running a rr5 tic with baod3 or multiple theurgs/cabas with baod - pigs flying has a higher probability.

run random pugs with who ever, and believe a bg pally/arms/reaver is better, your only deluding yourself.

Lols, alot of grps that have been running with pala have been just as competitive as the ones running with friar?
Same as alot of hibgrps manage to run without warden and still do just as good vs albgrps?
Less bullshit please, it comes to the players mostly.

 

[Eregion]

However, I do agree that having a friar if ure running a pure caster grp might be better, paladin if tankgrp...But saying that you can't compete just because you don't have a friar is nothing but bullshit.

 

[Gilbride]

Quite interesting how things differ so highly between euro and US servers.. US servers, almost no groups run friars, too big tradeoff, in most peoples eyes. Each to their own I guess.

 

[Bondoila]

My pick would be friar to grant the group all resists. Second place palladin for the possiblitly to take alot of dmg and grant the group end(then you don't need to drink end pots all the time, since alb groups kites 24/7).

 

[mikke]

Have you played a Friar in RvR lately? ;P

Only nice damage you're getting is versus casters and the occasional BMs.

You're going to hit blademasters fast, but they got to much hp and probably great healers so you won't take them down unless druids are under amazing interuption.

Casters is a no go as you'll be running with your weaker targets to BG them.

hehe, ok, well - i have just played vs stealthers, and them i hit for 300-550 dmg! so i just assumed they hit for something like that on other players aswell

 

[Kinag]

Weak targets ;p

Not hard pulling off a 500 damage hit without crit on a stealther (except PD5 ones).

But hitting a hero for 200 damage ain't fun ;p

 

[Zede]

Lols, alot of grps that have been running with pala have been just as competitive as the ones running with friar?
Same as alot of hibgrps manage to run without warden and still do just as good vs albgrps?
Less bullshit please, it comes to the players mostly.

Name one alb grp.

 

[Martok]

Name one alb grp.

Evitas old group we never had a frair we had to put up with smellysox

 

[Eregion]

Name one alb grp.

AD ran with paladin for a long time, and was for sure the hardest albgrp.
Yes playstyles have changed etc, I won't say that friar is worse then paladin or so, I just think your comment earlier was very narrow minded.

 

[Brackus]

a good bg reaver could compete with a bg friar imho

frair has no slam, only 1 insta interrupt (taunt)
compared to reaver with 2 insta's (dot and dd), 2 x aoe debuffs + aoe dd

plus the reaver can go on the offensive more effectively than friar with levi / ranged attack chain styles

fair enough friar has ST, resists and heals, but you shouldnt have to rely on friar to heal. but at the same rate ST and resists are not to be ignored, and a small bonus is that friar can self buff and base people in the group (which a reaver can't) so having the extra buffs does free up people slightly.

They both have their utility, depending on your group setup, but because most groups will probably run with a thurg then maybe the friar is the better class. However having the reaver in the group does mean that a lot of his utility is "in battle" whereas the frair can sit back heal if needed means that the friar is probably less likely to die than the bg reaver

 

[gwal]

Name one alb grp.

sublime

 

[Zede]

AD ran with paladin for a long time, and was for sure the hardest albgrp.
Yes playstyles have changed etc, I won't say that friar is worse then paladin or so, I just think your comment earlier was very narrow minded.

Im not talking OF dark age of tankalot, this is now. Every alb grp ran with a pally back then. Things have changed.

 

[Zede]

Evitas old group we never had a frair we had to put up with smellysox

yer i know, i was in it most the time

the joy of manisch from newcastle & graens bad jokes always made it worthwhile, who cares about RP

 

[Martok]

yer i know, i was in it most the time

the joy of manisch from newcastle & graens bad jokes always made it worthwhile, who cares about RP

Manisch was from germany

and aye we always had fun even when getting rolled due to mass joking around so aye i agree who cared about the rp's they were just a side product of fun play. hell the setup wasnt realy serious but worked :worthy:

 

[Eregion]

Im not talking OF dark age of tankalot, this is now. Every alb grp ran with a pally back then. Things have changed.

And if u read what I said, I agreed that times have changed, and friar is better for todays castergrps bla bla bla. I still think it's stupid to say u can't compete without it, since hibs compete very well without a warden, and they have pretty much the same exact role?
Maybe we should agree to disagree.

 

[Straef]

We ocasionally ran with just a paladin in FL and performed well enough against most groups, tho the high rr caster groups obviously formed a problem, but they're hard even with a friar.

 

[scarloc]

You've gotta have those resists imo, friar all the way.

 

[Kinag]

You've gotta have those resists imo, Ataraxia all the way.

I've never agreed more in my entire life!

 

[Tuorin]

Speaking of all realms, I'd say warriors are best, even when only taking testudo and their good dmg/defence mix in consideration, and I think a blademaster might do well, seeing they've got a fancy rr5 ability aswell, not to mention the high dex and evade in case you'd want to go shield

New hero RR5 is yber for bging vs melee now, complete bag of shit for anything else Well Shift -R to cancel it once you've used on stealthers.

 

[Straef]

I've never agreed more in my entire life!

Cheats :<

New hero RR5 is yber for bging vs melee now, complete bag of shit for anything else Well Shift -R to cancel it once you've used on stealthers.

Exactly what is it? It's been a while since I played hib, and a while longer since I played a hero

 

[Tuorin]

Cheats :<

Exactly what is it? It's been a while since I played hib, and a while longer since I played a hero

Combat Awareness Active The Hero gains a 360 degree 50% evade for 30 seconds, during which time the Hero's attack power is reduced by 50%. During this time, the Hero will also be snared by 50%.

Basically combine that with tactics and decent shield and highish parry and its pretty nifty if melee go for bg. Moreorless unkillable to melee. May be useful in tank group fights when bging, but vs casters its utter tripe ofc. I think it has to be used wisely though, have to cancel it if melee changes target and moves away.

Problem is there's barely any tank groups ;/ /cry