Albion BGer

[Maeloch]

Agree 100% with the resists stuff, albs used to be so easy to nuke down till they started running with friars. Losing 24% resists = you're taking approx 50% more damage from casters - okay might shave some of that off with CL resists etc, but it's a bit of a no brainer. Why jump thru hoops trying to mess about with RA's etc, which don't work as well, cost points, when just cut magic damage by a 1/3rd right there?

Don't get me wrong, would love alb grps without friars combined with fotm trend to have 0% heat resists...

 

[Martok]

Agree 100% with the resists stuff, albs used to be so easy to nuke down till they started running with friars. Losing 24% resists = you're taking approx 50% more damage from casters - okay might shave some of that off with CL resists etc, but it's a bit of a no brainer. Why jump thru hoops trying to mess about with RA's etc, which don't work as well, cost points, when just cut magic damage by a 1/3rd right there?

Don't get me wrong, would love alb grps without friars combined with fotm trend to have 0% heat resists...

have to agree there when albs never used friars we were too easy im just glad they finaly got a spot in groups like wardens + shammys did so albs can now have full reists instead of just 3 of them.

 

[Smellysox]

have to agree there when albs never used friars we were too easy im just glad they finaly got a spot in groups like wardens + shammys did so albs can now have full reists instead of just 3 of them.

Have you got a friar Martok ? hmm let me think mani have you got an armsman ? hmm i got a pala so i vote paladin tbh .

 

[Martok]

Have you got a friar Martok ? hmm let me think mani have you got an armsman ? hmm i got a pala so i vote paladin tbh .

i have got a friar m8y yes! hmmm.... would a pally want to be BG spec when he can go warguard and join the assist train on patch 1.83 with celerity let me think!

 

[Straef]

Have you got a friar Martok ? hmm let me think mani have you got an armsman ? hmm i got a pala so i vote paladin tbh .

Have you got a pala Smelly? HAVE YOU?!

 

[BlackrazoR]

Paladin/Armsman
Armsman will take more damage than a Paladin happily. Both can slam. In 1.83 both will have good damage out-put and nice styles for group fights. Paladin has chants, which again in 1.83, will be useful - if it is tank group especially. Paladin has 10% res but TBH if your Paladin is resing your group is dead almost certainly. Paladin's RR5 is somewhat disappointing IMO. Armsman has Bolstering Roar and Fury and RR5 (great vs a tank group). These two classes are my personal favourites for BG'ers but as I play an Armsman I have to say they're better .

Friar
Friars have the resists, everyone should worship them purely for this reason - the resists rock. Friars can rebuff people with bases during a fight, helps somewhat take that duty off the clerics and anything to help out clerics must be good! Although, any decent set-up will assist on the Friar as soon as they realise he is the BG'er and Friars cannot stand up to much. Friar has ST and RR5 (great ability to pop on an assist-train). Friar is too "squishy" as my GM would say, they go down relatively fast and I don't like that, especially as a caster-group will all do the same.

Reaver
Reavers are obviously not as hard as Paladins or Armsmen but they can still hold their own and have good damage out-put. Furthermore they have the interupt abilites and TWF but I still believe that Reavers should stay with Banelord.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Have you got a friar Martok ? hmm let me think mani have you got an armsman ? hmm i got a pala so i vote paladin tbh .

Hahah. Did I reroll a Friar, Reaver a Paladin for BG? No. Armsman? Yes.

Strong level 8 BG'er .

 

[toxii]

Yet people aren't queueing up to group my pala

people cba to wait for you to come back from 8k range away when fights are finished <3

on a sidenote, wouldnt replace friar for anything else on caster grp

only if paladin (which is my only choise after friar) got masteryofpwn5 ,RA with 1m RUT, insta kill enemy grp at 3k range

3 healers in alb grp > any other BG'er, in the age of overextending and kiting ^^

 

[Smellysox]

i have got a friar m8y yes! hmmm.... would a pally want to be BG spec when he can go warguard and join the assist train on patch 1.83 with celerity let me think!

Thats what i said pala prolly join assist train but who knows , aint your friar anyway , is it hmm ?

 

[Smellysox]

Have you got a pala Smelly? HAVE YOU?!

fu guild jumper .

 

[Smellysox]

Hahah. Did I reroll a Friar, Reaver a Paladin for BG? No. Armsman? Yes.

Strong level 8 BG'er .

dirty old slut , watevah trevah

 

[Smellysox]

people cba to wait for you to come back from 8k range away when fights are finished <3

on a sidenote, wouldnt replace friar for anything else on caster grp

only if paladin (which is my only choise after friar) got masteryofpwn5 ,RA with 1m RUT, insta kill enemy grp at 3k range

3 healers in alb grp > any other BG'er, in the age of overextending and kiting ^^

Toxi yeah i agree <3 <mucho luv for the gm of doom>

 

[toxii]

Toxi yeah i agree <3 <mucho luv for the gm of doom>

forgetting the afk part, are we!?

on another side note, my view changes completely on tank grp
seeing that pala gets celerity and stuff, but man that friar sists roxor ... ;(

 

[Andrilyn]

I don't know why people say Friars die so easy, a pally that's being assist nuked dies in 3 secs and a Friar also no differance what so ever.
Also a decent Cleric should have no problem keeping a caster alive with 2-3 tanks on him so a Friar is no problem as a Friar got loads more defence than the avarage caster.

 

[liloe]

I don't know why people say Friars die so easy, a pally that's being assist nuked dies in 3 secs and a Friar also no differance what so ever.
Also a decent Cleric should have no problem keeping a caster alive with 2-3 tanks on him so a Friar is no problem as a Friar got loads more defence than the avarage caster.

It's definately not always easy to keep a mage up when 2-3 hamsters stack around him and stick their axes inside

Personally I vote for friar BG aswell, cause of the sheer utility a friar offers. All the red defensive buffs, ST, the RR5 and if you go down on the damage, you can even increase the parrying =)

 

[Kinag]

Friar - either rejuv or staff spec; 3 x 24% elemental resists, 25% end reduction group buff, heals (including HOT), vehement renewal possible, static tempest possible, leather (no PD), RR5 counterattack etc.

I just want to say one thing, if you're dragging the leather into the discussion then you should drag in the fact that a decently specced friar has a 15% abs buff as well, that makes close to chain armor and evade 5.

 

[Straef]

people cba to wait for you to come back from 8k range away when fights are finished <3

 

[Straef]

fu guild jumper .

You do a better job BG'ing when you're offline :<

 

[Martok]

i say friar as main reaver as secoundary pally + arms should from 1.83 be on assist train and well i wanan bring up merc BGer since no one else has!


What about a merc being the BGer great dmg output is with the right sc good hits and af too.

 

[eggy]

i say friar as main reaver as secoundary pally + arms should from 1.83 be on assist train and well i wanan bring up merc BGer since no one else has!


What about a merc being the BGer great dmg output is with the right sc good hits and af too.

True, especially with the RR5 RA (and Dirty Tricks) against the assist train. Would have to be HO with 101 con, 400 hits and toughness though, ofc; not sexy saracen thruster mercs of doom

 

[Dallas]

If you think of pure bodyguarding, id take armsman any time just because of the dmg.
If you think of usability, friar outclasses them all, paladin resists are decent, but 1500 range and only up 5/8 seconds if you twist perfectly, and you do need those resists, plus its handy having extra healer.

 

[Straef]

i say friar as main reaver as secoundary pally + arms should from 1.83 be on assist train and well i wanan bring up merc BGer since no one else has!


What about a merc being the BGer great dmg output is with the right sc good hits and af too.

I brought up mercs, but nobody noticed :< I think a s/s merc would have some nice defence, as the evade rate on 360 evade should increase a bit when having the dex capped for shield use. I won't bother going there myself, as besides already having a paladin to do the same job I'd rather play merc offensively

True, especially with the RR5 RA (and Dirty Tricks) against the assist train. Would have to be HO with 101 hits, 400 con and toughness though, ofc; not sexy saracen thruster mercs of doom

How about a saracen shield merc then? ;p

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

True, especially with the RR5 RA (and Dirty Tricks) against the assist train. Would have to be HO with 101 hits, 400 con and toughness though, ofc; not sexy saracen thruster mercs of doom

101 hits and 400 con!? xD

 

[Succi]

since when to bg'ers actually die to melee ? learn to strafe or get anti-melee artis

 

[Zede]

Ran an alliance pug last night ( with friar) had no problem taking out the likes of Random Roleplayers repetedly. We lost our friar about 10pm and got a BG arms.

No real change of tactics, but we ended up losing a lot quite soon after the change, so go figure !

 

[warkrusher]

Ran an alliance pug last night ( with friar) had no problem taking out the likes of Random Roleplayers repetedly. We lost our friar about 10pm and got a BG arms.

No real change of tactics, but we ended up losing a lot quite soon after the change, so go figure !


// What was the arms Ras? i bet he didnt had DD / Soldiers barricade yes i dont have them aswell but ill as soon as i get a fix grp going with i hope should not be a problem in 1.83 still im still thinking if i should play pure offensive arms on 1.83 to assist on the pala with celeb ( pala + arms FTW ) ;D

 

[Kinag]

Friars are superior bg'ers due to their utility

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Doubt so.

 

[Varna]

Reavers are probably up there as top spot or deifnately in top two. The problem is to-be really effective, it's not only the player but the amount of realm points they have currently to spend on things, Purge3 is a real boost to BG duty, so is LW2. I honestly think that out of all realms, the reaver is still the best at BG, I hope you continue to enjoy playing it Eggy - I wasted countless SoD's during my time on reaver, both banelord and battlemaster are great lines for the reaver, both equally fun and highly effective in the right players hands.

 

[Straef]

Speaking of all realms, I'd say warriors are best, even when only taking testudo and their good dmg/defence mix in consideration, and I think a blademaster might do well, seeing they've got a fancy rr5 ability aswell, not to mention the high dex and evade in case you'd want to go shield