Albion and 4am relic takes

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Everz

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BlackrazoR said:
There was opposition to the CM-raid. It was still well-organised even if it was started after midnight. Oh and nice personal flame - really contributing to the discussion :worthy: .
dude there were 7-10 hibs? vs 3-4fg of albs..
 

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BlackrazoR said:
Ok - perhaps you could read the previous post I made and then respond - I was talking about the Primetime raid led by Klerical and Rhuvetha.

The CM raid was increidbly well organised and well run and we took the relic at 4AM not 5AM.

The exact times UK time

Fatload BoysDoCry said:
4:29 Relic gates open
4:35 Relic removed
5:13 Relic captured
 

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BlackrazoR said:
There was opposition to the CM-raid. It was still well-organised even if it was started after midnight. Oh and nice personal flame - really contributing to the discussion :worthy: .

please spread more rep before giving Blackrazor.

rofl pity you posts are so funny that you actually believe that CM were so well organised against a few hibs and guards please give me a break.

As I posted it's not rocket science to get a relic when the vast majority of the realm you are invading are offline so saying how well organised they are is a bit of a let down.

Fair play to Alb BG who started a relic raid on saturday evening I have a lot of respect for them trying to do it when defenders were online and if CM had any decency they do same but they don't as they know that 99.9% of the time they get they arses kicked this is only reason why early morning Pve against guards suits them.

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Soulja_IA_ said:
please spread more rep before giving Blackrazor.

rofl pity you posts are so funny that you actually believe that CM were so well organised against a few hibs and guards please give me a break.

As I posted it's not rocket science to get a relic when the vast majority of the realm you are invading are offline so saying how well organised they are is a bit of a let down.

Fair play to Alb BG who started a relic raid on saturday evening I have a lot of respect for them trying to do it when defenders were online and if CM had any decency they do same but they don't as they know that 99.9% of the time they get they arses kicked this is only reason why early morning Pve against guards suits them.

Soulja
tbh u speak bullshit in all post ive read of urs so far, learn to understand wat ur tlking about b4 u post...retard :twak:
 

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BlackrazoR said:
There was opposition to the CM-raid. It was still well-organised even if it was started after midnight. Oh and nice personal flame - really contributing to the discussion :worthy: .

heh i dont doubt that the two luries was a formidable opponent for cm , but you shouldnt really let fh know that unless you wanna be ridiculed :)
 

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uron said:
tbh u speak bullshit in all post ive read of urs so far, learn to understand wat ur tlking about b4 u post...retard :twak:


Well nice response be nice to know what parts you consider to be "Bullshit" and as I posted it is what most people have been saying.

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albs just dont have the leadership to do anything prime time, they can chuck as many numbers at the enemy as they like but without good leadership they just get farmed.
i was in the hib BG on the first mass rvr night and it pretty much went like clockwork, every order carried out and quickly. sitting in the alb BG the next day (wasnt rvring, just exping my tic) and it seemed to be utter chaos, mostly people lfg even at one time a discussion about whether a lvl 44 sorc should even be allowed to be defending, didnt seem anyone was doing as they were asked, more interested in the holy RP...pathetic

I guess it seemed that way to you, being in a public BG etc, and you were probably unaware of the private CG that alot of people were in ;P actually doing well organised defence, which mostly consisted of the the larger alliances.
I'll give you 1 example and probably the highlight of the "relic raid zerg event" for me, around 11pm on the 2nd day hibs and mids had combined to open both relic gates, Rhuaveth leading the public BG was doing a great job not letting the main part of the BG get pulled away from the shrines, kudos to her.

In the private CG we had around 3fg, 1fgKF 1fgCM and what seemed to be 1fg Knights of Pendragon, we knew the only chance to close both the relic gates was to retake Beno.
We arrived at beno facing a similar 3fg+ amount of mids, 1fg quickly took a tower to cut port while the other 2fg took down outer and inner on beno and cleared out the mids.

All this time we were expecting Mastade to take 1 or both relics as it took around 10-15mins for us to take the keep from the mids, when we realised he hadnt we knew his zerg was inc to beno to secure relic gates.. seconds after retaking beno the full force of mastades zerg (guard spam showing 90+) hit beno and took both outer and inner down in no time (bruiser zerg ftw).

We then had an epic battle around Lady Benowyc, casters were on the balcony farming the inc zerg, clerics spamming heals on Lady Benowyc desperatly trying to keep her alive, light and heavy tanks tearing into the hibs - the hib zerg seemed to make Lady Benowyc their number 1 target (bad move) and after 5minutes hibs were forced back out and into the oil, Benowyc keep was secured and the relic gates closed.
Imo it was the turning point of the event, whether you like it or not Mastade choked and failed to take the oppertunity when both gates to the relics were open... at a crucial time the hib leadership had failed to grab what was well within their reach.

Non factors posting on FH without a clue what really went on...pathetic :m00:
 

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Eversmallx said:
ging.. synergy member
eggy.. synergy Gm and mod

dont expect a ban m8.

Excuse me, how about you stop baiting for a little bit.

Ging's post was indeed warnable as per FH COC; therefore to remove bias I simply asked another mod to deal with it - and so it shall be.
 

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censi said:
I nderstand they are just playing but they really are damaging the game and what daoc stands for by doing this

...in your opinion.

If I see an Alb in trouble, I'll heal them without thinking - hey, it's a realm mate - getting direct abuse from that person for healing them when they otherwise would have died is, imo, "damaging" the game.

Taking relics at early hours isn't damaging to the game in my opinion...but I solely play Alb if we have relics or not - doesn't bother me.
 

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eggy said:
Excuse me, how about you stop baiting for a little bit.

Ging's post was indeed warnable as per FH COC; therefore to remove bias I simply asked another mod to deal with it - and so it shall be.
ofc i know, just making something interesting to read ;p
 

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eggy said:
Ging's post was indeed warnable as per FH COC; therefore to remove bias I simply asked another mod to deal with it - and so it shall be.

Oo i is gonna be spanked!! :flame:
 

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eggy said:
...in your opinion.

If I see an Alb in trouble, I'll heal them without thinking - hey, it's a realm mate - getting direct abuse from that person for healing them when they otherwise would have died is, imo, "damaging" the game.

Taking relics at early hours isn't damaging to the game in my opinion...but I solely play Alb if we have relics or not - doesn't bother me.
Yes any form of abuse, folk give there realm-mates is killing the game:( think there are far to many out there to scared to help there realm-mates out due to abuse,imo they should make why add on me a banning offence like /emote
 

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If I see an Alb in trouble, I'll heal them without thinking - hey, it's a realm mate - getting direct abuse from that person for healing them when they otherwise would have died is, imo, "damaging" the game.

The old heal a realm mate in trouble story. Very good for proping up the nice guy irl image. What about the old buff sheering soloers with /laughs and leaving them just to wind them up? or the FG steamroller add on a soloer and spam /rofl at them? or adding on the GvG scene in agramon?

The screen isnt so clouded around the edges if you pick and choose other examples

Taking relics at early hours isn't damaging to the game in my opinion...but I solely play Alb if we have relics or not - doesn't bother me.

Ofc it doesnt bother you having extra relics. But clearly it bothers a large part of the community who have explained clearly and calmly why they think its bad and refuse to AC them back.
 

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RandomDotCom said:
my average rp/h on eld is 15-20k an hour and i mostly solo. .

you mean solo in irvr as a caster ? or you mean running with the other "soloers" on stick ? ^^

Infanity said:
B) I would have nothing to read at work.

thats true , repped

Elrandhir said:
I do think that Albion is an Easymode realm, .

can i please start laughing now , CLUELESS LOL

brad said:
Okay, have you even once tried what i have done?

yes dude, 3 years ago on prydwen, ever heard rambo ? :(

censi said:
flaming Expires: Never

that last one should have been 50 not 20. Expires: Never

Flaming / trolling - again ! Expires: Never

Uncalled-for personal attack. I'm increasing this warning by 10%. This does not ban him but this is what I'd call a last chance. Expires: Never

As I have said repeatedly - If you are unhappy with a moderator then PM the Admin of the forums, I will not entertain yet another thread with the specific intention to demoralise and attack the moderators. If you are unhappy with any response from a mod talk to an Admin, if you are unhappy with an Admin - then POST ELSEWHERE ! Expires: Never

What a personal insult! "Hypotwat", lol Expires: Never

LOL, you have to admit mods have a sense of humour ;p


on a more serious note now :

it amuses me a lot, that the actions of a certain playerbase represent the actions of albion as a realm
could always do what asylum did and hand back the relic to its owners, but wait that way you are gonna get flamed by the albs ;(

give more whine pls, always having fun reading to clueless whine at work xd
 

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Chill out already, they will eventually grow bored of it (at least one can hope ^^).
 

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lol rambo in of was the good old days :) stealth war was stealth war back then:) walking backwards through mmg amg to aviod pa:(
 

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eggy said:
Taking relics at early hours isn't damaging to the game in my opinion.

And there the problem lies.

It is clear from here that a lot of players are unhappy that their work and efforts during primetime are undone by a few players who see nothing wrong in AC raids. Why would people want to try and re-take the relics when they will simply be AC'd back anyway.

When a few players make use of the ability to impose their preferred playstyle such as AC raids (and to the annoyance of a lot of others) then it surely cannot be good for the game as a whole.
 

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Prothoe said:
I guess it seemed that way to you, being in a public BG etc, and you were probably unaware of the private CG that alot of people were in ;P actually doing well organised defence, which mostly consisted of the the larger alliances.
I'll give you 1 example and probably the highlight of the "relic raid zerg event" for me, around 11pm on the 2nd day hibs and mids had combined to open both relic gates, Rhuaveth leading the public BG was doing a great job not letting the main part of the BG get pulled away from the shrines, kudos to her.

In the private CG we had around 3fg, 1fgKF 1fgCM and what seemed to be 1fg Knights of Pendragon, we knew the only chance to close both the relic gates was to retake Beno.
We arrived at beno facing a similar 3fg+ amount of mids, 1fg quickly took a tower to cut port while the other 2fg took down outer and inner on beno and cleared out the mids.

All this time we were expecting Mastade to take 1 or both relics as it took around 10-15mins for us to take the keep from the mids, when we realised he hadnt we knew his zerg was inc to beno to secure relic gates.. seconds after retaking beno the full force of mastades zerg (guard spam showing 90+) hit beno and took both outer and inner down in no time (bruiser zerg ftw).

We then had an epic battle around Lady Benowyc, casters were on the balcony farming the inc zerg, clerics spamming heals on Lady Benowyc desperatly trying to keep her alive, light and heavy tanks tearing into the hibs - the hib zerg seemed to make Lady Benowyc their number 1 target (bad move) and after 5minutes hibs were forced back out and into the oil, Benowyc keep was secured and the relic gates closed.
Imo it was the turning point of the event, whether you like it or not Mastade choked and failed to take the oppertunity when both gates to the relics were open... at a crucial time the hib leadership had failed to grab what was well within their reach.

Non factors posting on FH without a clue what really went on...pathetic :m00:
Yep - what people often fail to appreciate is the ongoing "behind the scenes" work that a lot of the groups do. Many of the actions of KF/CM/Knights that were deliberately kept from the battlegroup until it was too late to prevent leaks via IRC/Msn (typically announced it once the hibs saw us anyways for morale).

Three times that night when the gates were open the hibs were forced off the relic gates to come secure their alb keeps again thanks to our small 24 man force (small compared to a 100+ hibzerg).

Putting the flames aside i really hope mastade runs another one of these raids - the RPs ain't so good - the feeling of achievement i got from that night was.
 

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Belisar said:
And there the problem lies.

It is clear from here that a lot of players are unhappy that their work and efforts during primetime are undone by a few players who see nothing wrong in AC raids. Why would people want to try and re-take the relics when they will simply be AC'd back anyway.

When a few players make use of the ability to impose their preferred playstyle such as AC raids (and to the annoyance of a lot of others) then it surely cannot be good for the game as a whole.


/sigh

Every war real or imagined since the DAWN of TIME has used the fact that the earth revolves around the sun once every 24 HOURS - to gain an advantage

get used to it, not gonna change !
 

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Prothoe said:
I guess it seemed that way to you, being in a public BG etc, and you were probably unaware of the private CG that alot of people were in ;P actually doing well organised defence, which mostly consisted of the the larger alliances.
I'll give you 1 example and probably the highlight of the "relic raid zerg event" for me, around 11pm on the 2nd day hibs and mids had combined to open both relic gates, Rhuaveth leading the public BG was doing a great job not letting the main part of the BG get pulled away from the shrines, kudos to her.

In the private CG we had around 3fg, 1fgKF 1fgCM and what seemed to be 1fg Knights of Pendragon, we knew the only chance to close both the relic gates was to retake Beno.
We arrived at beno facing a similar 3fg+ amount of mids, 1fg quickly took a tower to cut port while the other 2fg took down outer and inner on beno and cleared out the mids.

All this time we were expecting Mastade to take 1 or both relics as it took around 10-15mins for us to take the keep from the mids, when we realised he hadnt we knew his zerg was inc to beno to secure relic gates.. seconds after retaking beno the full force of mastades zerg (guard spam showing 90+) hit beno and took both outer and inner down in no time (bruiser zerg ftw).

We then had an epic battle around Lady Benowyc, casters were on the balcony farming the inc zerg, clerics spamming heals on Lady Benowyc desperatly trying to keep her alive, light and heavy tanks tearing into the hibs - the hib zerg seemed to make Lady Benowyc their number 1 target (bad move) and after 5minutes hibs were forced back out and into the oil, Benowyc keep was secured and the relic gates closed.
Imo it was the turning point of the event, whether you like it or not Mastade choked and failed to take the oppertunity when both gates to the relics were open... at a crucial time the hib leadership had failed to grab what was well within their reach.

Non factors posting on FH without a clue what really went on...pathetic :m00:


What the alb BG leaders did that day was very well thought off, and thats one of the main factores you didnt loose any relics that day. When we started on our rampage through Albion we didnt meet much resistance in the start and all of a sudden we ended up with relic gates open. At one point we were heading to castle excalibur when we saw Sursbrooke under attack. I was doubting we could make it to the relic keep before albs took surs and closed the relic gates, so i redirected the zerg back to surs and just managed to clear the albs there in time. When albs got beno it was pretty much game over, all the hibs had been going on for ages already and alot of people were logging. We had to leave some hibs behind at bold to make sure no albs took that and ended up with ~6fg hibs or so at beno. We wiped and well.. tough luck. Was a great evening anyways. The only thing i could have wished for that day was having more time. Well i will get a relic from you, its just a matter of (prime)time.
 

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Zede said:
/sigh

Every war real or imagined since the DAWN of TIME has used the fact that the earth revolves around the sun once every 24 HOURS - to gain an advantage

get used to it, not gonna change !

YEAH, good job on comparing real life with a game!
 

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Zede said:
/sigh

Every war real or imagined since the DAWN of TIME has used the fact that the earth revolves around the sun once every 24 HOURS - to gain an advantage

get used to it, not gonna change !

Sorry to knock your images but this is not RL - it is a game.

Unlike RL when peeps get hacked off they stop playing. Already we have project camlann taking a lot of players away from this server. AC raids dent peoples fun and enthusiasm encouraging them simply find other things to do.

What do you want from the game ? Do you want some fun or is your ultimate aim only to win ?

Peeps here have a choice of how they play and what they do at they times they are on. All I would like to see is a bit more thought when the choice is made.
 

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pip said:
Yes any form of abuse, folk give there realm-mates is killing the game:( think there are far to many out there to scared to help there realm-mates out due to abuse,imo they should make why add on me a banning offence like /emote

Fair point I think. I won't run around and "add" on people when I can help it/when I notice they're fighting, but I will heal people if they're in trouble...think I saved quite a few at Eras/Berks yesterday :)

Besides, I'm trying to get the biggest crit I can off my 1.5% power 863 heals :)

Staj: did you like our nuke vs heal match against that Orange guard at Berks? ;)
 

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censi said:
The old heal a realm mate in trouble story. Very good for proping up the nice guy irl image. What about the old buff sheering soloers with /laughs and leaving them just to wind them up? or the FG steamroller add on a soloer and spam /rofl at them? or adding on the GvG scene in agramon?

I don't quite know what you're getting at here. I don't connect my "real life" to this game; because this is a game and real life is...well, real. I'll heal anyone I can as long as it doesn't sacrifice the health (excuse pun) of the group I'm in.
 

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Gotte say, Eggy is making alot of sense today. What type of cereals did you ate this morning, mate? :<
 

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Congax said:
Gotte say, Eggy is making alot of sense today. What type of cereals did you ate this morning, mate? :<

Don't scramble me :(
 

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Belisar said:
Sorry to knock your images but this is not RL - it is a game.

Unlike RL when peeps get hacked off they stop playing. Already we have project camlann taking a lot of players away from this server. AC raids dent peoples fun and enthusiasm encouraging them simply find other things to do.

What do you want from the game ? Do you want some fun or is your ultimate aim only to win ?

Peeps here have a choice of how they play and what they do at they times they are on. All I would like to see is a bit more thought when the choice is made.


oh the irony.

hurah for stupid people !
 
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