Alb v Mid keep taking.

Ardamel

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TehGlottiswannabee said:
Quite funny really - if Albs turn up with a sizeable force to attack or defend (sometimes well - sometimes less so....) its mindless zerging.

Mids turn up with a sizeable force then its good planning.

Theres a word for that....

(btw actually really pleased to see mids get of their arses and stop whining - makes life more interesting. but Vodka is right - if you attack, and its repulsed then you will have a large force of pissed of Albs heading your way)

It was the albs who said their recent raids were unplanned, we're simply saying that our raid was planned, as to if it's good or bad planning, I leave that to others to decide.
 

TappiTheFriar

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Ardamel said:
The raid me and Ruathian planned wasn't dangerous at all, we wouldn't have gone further than Beno, not that day atleast. And if you wanna grab a keep do like I just did, skip the night keep takes. Cuz if you don't, I'll do the same thing to you ;) Check my record, I can and will raid you prime time, but not if you with yer superior zerg tactics keep taking keeps at night I may begin to wonder if its worth the trouble of doing it prime time.

Bring back Herbal, he so pwns you in tactics and sometimes me :)

Superior ZergNight Tactics.. Hmph, If I have trouble getting sleep some night, It will not stop me playing. And this superior ZERG at night was done by 1fg until all realms joined the fight. And Our DEFENCE was well planned earlier in the day, It wasnt random at all. Its you who lacks the sight if you didnt see how we retook everything in smooth order. If I will plan a attack, it will be done in the early evening. Othertime its only for fun and testing your skills to defend. Havent really needed the urge to plan anything because dont think albions miss hibs power relics very much.

We started raiding your towers only becouse you attacked albion, unfortunately main force from our realm went to hibernia. So we was left with 1fg to take towers (Ooooo Scary zerg raiding our frontier).

And stop appraising yourself and thinking of me as a brainless zergleader.
I bet you and Herbal are 100 times more worthy. But really .. I dont care because I never thought myself of a Leader. It was something that accidentally happened when ppl started to listen my voice in /cg. I bet someone could do Much better job coordinating. But still im enjoying when we are abit more organized when doing something.
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Iorlas

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Imo ... well done for organising a raid and even bringing a few mins. of panic to alb.I even saw a lvl40 scout running around avalon city yelling... RELIC RAID...made me laff:)If albs can have 150 on at 2am(gmt) midweek i can't see how 3am relic raid could be classed as an ac raid.I would rather relics changed realms all the time,all albs gotta do is gather the almightyest of zerg's take em back whenever.
 

Knolan

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Iorlas said:
Imo ... well done for organising a raid and even bringing a few mins. of panic to alb.I even saw a lvl40 scout running around avalon city yelling... RELIC RAID...made me laff:)If albs can have 150 on at 2am(gmt) midweek i can't see how 3am relic raid could be classed as an ac raid.I would rather relics changed realms all the time,all albs gotta do is gather the almightyest of zerg's take em back whenever.

/hi Ior,/wave from odeaan :)
 

Nebel

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What happened to the plan of takin a Bold-Tower btw?... ported to Bold and took boat to Beno... so was there in no time aswell as many other albs.
That rendered takin other towers for port-prevention kinda useless.
 

Alithiel

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Where the Mids went wrong was in not leaving any defence at all in the towers they took.

An undefended level 1 tower can be retaken by 3-4 random stealthers in around 5 minutes, restoring the teleport chain in no time at all. Defending each of those towers with a fg (or a bunch of hunters!) would have held a good portion of the Albzerg up and given the Mids a much better chance of taking Beno T4 and securing themselves a teleport route into our Frontier.

Nebel said:
What happened to the plan of takin a Bold-Tower btw?... ported to Bold and took boat to Beno... so was there in no time aswell as many other albs.
That rendered takin other towers for port-prevention kinda useless.
The group taking the Boldiam tower was only about 4 people. I was roaming with TT, and we arrived while they were on the Lord and killed them. ;)

Poor organisiation... :flame:
 

Arus Canus

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Marc said:
So that why you attacked other keeps at the same time then? Or was that part of your "legendary tactics"?

Microsoft Paint map inc aye?

havent read the whole thread, just couldnt help my self. Had to reply to this tard.

<sigh> grow a brain and learn to read.

Think Ardamel explained why more then once. take tower from each keep so albs wasnt able to teleport and insta zerg the mids taking beno.
 

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Arus Canus said:
havent read the whole thread, just couldnt help my self. Had to reply to this tard.

<sigh> grow a brain and learn to read.

Wow, a tard. How, umm, original. I just love these fanboys.

Tell me this mr einstein, if it was purely a beno keep farm as ardamel says, why were other keeps attacked, and in particular, the ones to open the relic? Why were towers taken to stop albs porting?

Im sure, Arda himself, will admit that a tiny part of his intentions was a relic raid of somesorts.
 

Cerberos

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Marc said:
Wow, a tard. How, umm, original. I just love these fanboys.

Tell me this mr einstein, if it was purely a beno keep farm as ardamel says, why were other keeps attacked, and in particular, the ones to open the relic? Why were towers taken to stop albs porting?

Im sure, Arda himself, will admit that a tiny part of his intentions was a relic raid of somesorts.

A tard summs it up pretty good imo:)
 

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Wether Ardamels intentions were purely a keep farm or not, from an albs perspective it looked an seemed like a set RR, considering the fact hibs attacked a keep at exactly the same time.
 

Alithiel

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TappiTheFriar said:
alithiel.. Dont give mids advices how to raid us ;)
Pffft...

I'll give them all the advice they need if it will:

a) Allow fighting to carry on for a few hours rather than ending when the Mids log after getting zerged out of our Frontier in about 30 minutes.
b) Mean theres a few fg's of Mids roaming around (or defending towers) so those of us who don't just want to zerg can find some decent action.

I just want to have fun... :(
 

Cerberos

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Marc said:
the day i get offended by a role player is the day I die.

hehe good reply but you will still be a tard and talking about being a roleplayer i think you just showed some great potential.
 

Cerberos

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Marc said:
the day i get offended by a role player is the day I die.

hehe good reply, but you will still be a tard and talking about being a roleplayer i think you just showed some great potential.
 

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noaim said:
Yes, I wonder why... :rolleyes:
You really cant figure it out by yourself?

So tell me this. If it was PURELY a keep farm right, as your almightly leader says so.

Why were mids STILL attacking towers (not beno ones, Surs) after Beno was in mid hands, and dont give me no bullshit about you were stopping albs porting so you could upgrade the keep, because albs were already sieging it.

Surely if it was a keep farm, you would want all possible mids at beno.
 

tookha

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Marc, do yourself a favour and stop making a fool of yourself. Just a tip.

Who are you ingame anyhow?
 

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Marc said:
Why were towers taken to stop albs porting?
I see, your definition of "role players" are people that actually know more than "fuck all" about this game then, eh?
 

noaim

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Marc said:
So tell me this. If it was PURELY a keep farm right, as your almightly leader says so.

Why were mids STILL attacking towers (not beno ones, Surs) after Beno was in mid hands, and dont give me no bullshit about you were stopping albs porting so you could upgrade the keep, because albs were already sieging it.

Surely if it was a keep farm, you would want all possible mids at beno.

We had Surs T3 before the raid started, when we were on Beno innergate, someone said alb-zerg was moving to Surs T3 (the tower we had), we took Beno, went for the 2 closest towers and got them, then we went for the last, most mids died, and albs went for Beno. If some mids went for Surs T3, I dont know why.

But do you think a small midforce were sent to Sursbrooke to cut porting so we could relicraid you, when 200 albs were at Beno when it was lvl 3 and we had 10-20 mids inside? If so, I have no further comment.
 

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Marc said:
Wow, a tard. How, umm, original. I just love these fanboys.

Tell me this mr einstein, if it was purely a beno keep farm as ardamel says, why were other keeps attacked, and in particular, the ones to open the relic? Why were towers taken to stop albs porting?

Im sure, Arda himself, will admit that a tiny part of his intentions was a relic raid of somesorts.

if you would have read the tactics to this raid wich ardamel posted a few pages back. then you might have seen that we were just gonna take 1 or 2 towers on each keep to stop you from teleporting and then leave the towers we took to join up with the main force at beno. So no, this wasn't a RR, not even close to it.
You kinda reminds me of my father.. he is just as imbicil as you are. No matter what we say/do to prove you wrong in your theory about this beeing a RR you will never give up believing it was.
Have fun flaming us mate.. ur only making an arse out of yourself.
 

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the bold tower (one in the ruins) was taken but was recaptured quickly (by FC I guess from the above? :))

the only porting we had was sauvage, snow, hurbury at one point.

I'm sure if albion hadn't responded it might well have turned into an RR eventually but a single keeptake != RR anymore. It was a beachhead plan, to take a keep and form a beachhead.
 

Cerberos

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Flimgoblin said:
the bold tower (one in the ruins) was taken but was recaptured quickly (by FC I guess from the above? :))

the only porting we had was sauvage, snow, hurbury at one point.

I'm sure if albion hadn't responded it might well have turned into an RR eventually but a single keeptake != RR anymore. It was a beachhead plan, to take a keep and form a beachhead.
It might in the future who knows:) i think ardamel learned alot from this raid:)
 

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Cerberos said:
It might in the future who knows:) i think ardamel learned alot from this raid:)

think all mids learned alot from this raid. next time we might be able to put up some better defence after taking the keep.
 

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Zaphira said:
if you would have read the tactics to this raid wich ardamel posted a few pages back. then you might have seen that we were just gonna take 1 or 2 towers on each keep to stop you from teleporting and then leave the towers we took to join up with the main force at beno. So no, this wasn't a RR, not even close to it.
You kinda reminds me of my father.. he is just as imbicil as you are. No matter what we say/do to prove you wrong in your theory about this beeing a RR you will never give up believing it was.
Have fun flaming us mate.. ur only making an arse out of yourself.

So Ardamel quickly knocks up a Beno farm plan to save in c:/ROXOR TACTICS after albs spank the mids back to whence they came. From albs point of view, it looked, to all intent and purposes like a relic raid. I refer to my original point to naoim, that mids were attacking towers, and seen in the vacinity of eras and bold, AFTER Beno was in mid hands!
 

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PRIMETIME!! I mean 3.40 cet is primetime keepraid :) Not any else, it's primetime. How many defenders mids had, 20 ? :)

Tho I agree that looked like maybe a bit like rr, but kinda sad tbh that we need to use like rr tactics becouse at otherhand albs will overnumber us at keep :(
 

Nebel

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anyways... it was good fun and u gave us a good running... at some point i WAS worried... couldnt know if it was just takin single towers for port-prevention or multiple forces on several keeps...
So yes, it gave some adrenaline... and that whats makes the game exciting!

/salute to Mids :cheers:
 

Zaphira

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Marc said:
So Ardamel quickly knocks up a Beno farm plan to save in c:/ROXOR TACTICS after albs spank the mids back to whence they came. From albs point of view, it looked, to all intent and purposes like a relic raid. I refer to my original point to naoim, that mids were attacking towers, and seen in the vacinity of eras and bold, AFTER Beno was in mid hands!

here is the post from the alliance officers section on the WR forum:

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: Benowyc keep take Thursday 16th December Reply with quote
Time for a keep take eh? Me and Ruathian has come up with a plan that could work for grabbing Benowyc and establish porting there. Midgard is at it's all time low atm and it's become clear that spontaneous keep takes just arent possible anymore.

The plan is simple and based on simultaneous multiple tower takes. There will be 4 teams, 1 big and 3 small teams. Each of the 4 teams will grab a tower at Benoyc, Erasleigh, Boldiam and Berkstead. The Benowyc team will be the largest and should be at Benowyc itself first. The rest of the teams will rendezvous with the big team there and aid them in the taking of Benowyc itself and the remaining towers at Benowyc.

Meet at: Svasud Faste (Frostum will hand out diminutive siege rams there, 3 dim rams = 1 war ram)
Time: Thursday 20.00 CET 16/12-MMIV obs! time has been changed to Thurday instead of Wednesday

The big team:

If possible these days, the big team will consist of 4 balanced FGs. If need to be, dust of yer old healers and tanks Smile Only bring yer hunter if you got a fool's bow at lvl 10. The task is simple, this team will grab Benowyc t3 then move fast as hell straight for Beno gates. These grps must be balanced and the ram grp should have atleast 4 healers so that the ram can be kept on the door even if the oil is pouring on em.

The small teams:

TDA/TDD - Eras t3 or Eras t4
Nazgul/Realm Defenders - Boldiam t3 or Boldiam t4
White Rose/Bokkerijders - Berkstead t4

The small teams will position themselver nearby their towers when the raid itself is about to start. On a given signal, the small teams and the big team will attack their assigned towers, grab it fast like hell then head for benowyc itself. I'm also thinking of having Pure Vision and Groove on standby, ready to aid any of the teams who don't get enough ppl. Otherwise Pure Vision and Groove will be on guard duty at the side door/bridges of Benowyc.
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Last edited by Ardamel on Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:48 pm; edited 2 times in total

i hope you can see the creation and edit dates/times on that post now.
but as i said earlier, you remind me of my father, so you will prolly still believe it was a RR.
 

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Cerberos said:
Like albs are doing now? please tell us when we started to take keeps in the middle of the night?

If you can't see the difference between taking keeps when a realm has no relics and taking keeps in order to get a relic then you have a severe case of myopia ;)
 

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i sense 100% whine from albs in this thread!

now mids make fun, and u see 6 pages of whining by albs, funny :drink:
 

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