After WL nerf?

[Emmet]

you can actually pick any other area of prererance...as its just you and the first person shooters left then

yeah, got that.. just wanted everyone to know that i hate it (no reason at all.. so dont quote ) :>

 

[Tosi]

i think this is slipping from real topic but you always forget that sorcerers need to go get a pet first ;P

 

[Train]

Hi2u mr Warlock

 

[Emmet]

Hi2u mr Warlock

how did you get that pic?! plz dont post images of me here

 

[Raven]

is it me or does he look a little to much like Dennis taylor?

 

[Emmet]

is it me or does he look a little to much like Dennis taylor?

didnt get that.. PL my brain :<

 

[Raven]

the man, the legend

 

[Penlid]

Radar and add way =)?

hi2u stupeh lova! fuckface

 

[rure]

you cant actually mean that vamps and bainshees arent op..? and other hib casters too?

No I aint saying that, but I have proved in a shaman vid that you can play pretty much crap on mid and still beat the best players on hib.

 

[rure]

that might be true, i dont cba to even think about how the hibs try to make their grp even more op, but when a rr3 bainshee nukes for 849, thats really sick -.- a bainshee nuked my cabby for 849 several times (i have capped body resists) whats that? dont say its crits! it cant be the same ammount of crit that many times

Pure and utter bullshit m8. You are a lieing until you show us some screenshots. You should maybe ask around on how spells and how their cap damage works. Someone correct me please because I seem to forgotten the exact formula but can a rr3 bainshee get 849 in their damage cap? I doubt it but if they would, they would need to have mom5 and a void to eld to debuff for them.

 

[Lick]

is it me or does he look a little to much like Dennis taylor?

i thought it looked like your avatar tbh

 

[chretien]

Pure and utter bullshit m8. You are a lieing until you show us some screenshots. You should maybe ask around on how spells and how their cap damage works. Someone correct me please because I seem to forgotten the exact formula but can a rr3 bainshee get 849 in their damage cap? I doubt it but if they would, they would need to have mom5 and a void to eld to debuff for them.

Damage cap on spells is 3x delve + ToA bonuses + MoMagery.
Bainshees best DD (delve wise) is 223 so 669 +67 +106 (MoM5) =842 without crit. Resists and not being grey con will drop that damage.

 

[rure]

Damage cap on spells is 3x delve + ToA bonuses + MoMagery.
Bainshees best DD (delve wise) is 223 so 669 +67 +106 (MoM5) =842 without crit. Resists and not being grey con will drop that damage.

Thank you, repped. Point proven, you are wrong Emmet.

 

[Flimgoblin]

means smite clerics are OP?

nah just Glamis

 

[Cromcruaich]

They should hive wizzies some more util, they are buttom of the food chain

If so, take away the 3rd bolt.

And i'd say chanters are the worst caster class.

 

[partyanimal]

Damage cap on spells is 3x delve + ToA bonuses + MoMagery.
Bainshees best DD (delve wise) is 223 so 669 +67 +106 (MoM5) =842 without crit. Resists and not being grey con will drop that damage.

very close to the truth, its formula is almost close to my dam cap(not a bainshee).
BUT what about aquity? how does aquity affect damage?

 

[Jjuraa]

very close to the truth, its formula is almost close to my dam cap(not a bainshee).
BUT what about aquity? how does aquity affect damage?

acuity just increases your nuke damage within cap. doesnt increase cap afaik?

 

[Jjuraa]

a single bainshee can pretty much interrupt all the support in an enemy group from a range that none of the enemies could counter in any way.

so, when sorcs and theurgs are spamming with aoe mez/ice pets from bolt range, thats balance. when someone manages to PREVENT you doing that, its overpowered?

 

[Maeloch]

Have no idea why these silly figures for bainshee nuke damage keep getting trotted out, and nobody ever posts a screenie to back em up.

Only likely explanations for these numbers without crit is getting cone/aoe bolted or debuffed - and bolts are only every 20s, voidies debuffing for bainshees is highly unusual either in zergs or fgs.

 

[Tuorin]

Have no idea why these silly figures for bainshee nuke damage keep getting trotted out, and nobody ever posts a screenie to back em up.

Only likely explanations for these numbers without crit is getting cone/aoe bolted or debuffed - and bolts are only every 20s, voidies debuffing for bainshees is highly unusual either in zergs or fgs.

Very true. The bolts nigh on useless anyway.

 

[Puppet]

Have no idea why these silly figures for bainshee nuke damage keep getting trotted out, and nobody ever posts a screenie to back em up.

It's rather easy. The majority of warlocks doesnt have a serious template. Majority of them is wearing ROG's, some do have arti's (MORE DAMAGE!!11) but most dont seem to be interested in making a template. Understandable, as everything atm dies 1vs1 against a WL if the WL is awake.

Majority of WL's eats perfs for 913 (-43) and such silly numbers, on common damage-types perhaps abit better resists, but nothing too special. Critshotting a random RR5 Warlock for 1043 without noticing any resists at all means some dont even have melee-resists (!).

Took my ROG Bainshee out for a spin, she's level 48 and has no artifacts or anything and I still 3-shot Arumi:

Suppose a TOA'ed high RR Bainshee could pump out 650~ on him - but Arumi has pathetic body-resists (10%). My theory is that those whiners actually claim to have 'capped body AoM3 and red aug healer-resists' but in reality where 'ungrouped 10% body WP3 and dont group healer coz he leeches RPs'.

 

[Flimgoblin]

If so, take away the 3rd bolt.

And i'd say chanters are the worst caster class.

gladly - you do know the oh so awesome 3rd bolt is a sub-level-20 spell?

range 1875 feather duster

 

[Arumos]

It's rather easy. The majority of warlocks doesnt have a serious template. Majority of them is wearing ROG's, some do have arti's (MORE DAMAGE!!11) but most dont seem to be interested in making a template. Understandable, as everything atm dies 1vs1 against a WL if the WL is awake.
Majority of WL's eats perfs for 913 (-43) and such silly numbers, on common damage-types perhaps abit better resists, but nothing too special. Critshotting a random RR5 Warlock for 1043 without noticing any resists at all means some dont even have melee-resists (!).

Took my ROG Bainshee out for a spin, she's level 48 and has no artifacts or anything and I still 3-shot Arumi:

Suppose a TOA'ed high RR Bainshee could pump out 650~ on him - but Arumi has pathetic body-resists (10%). My theory is that those whiners actually claim to have 'capped body AoM3 and red aug healer-resists' but in reality where 'ungrouped 10% body WP3 and dont group healer coz he leeches RPs'.

aye you are right there m8 infact i don't think i have a magic resist above 10%, my rogs are aimed specifically towards damage. However my melee resists are close to cap. But like you said, most casters that fight a warlock 1v1 are gunna either be instakilled or interupted with banelord. My wl has close to 1700hp but gets hit like you said for 650 or so by most toaed casters. IF you were reffering to me about the whine on bainshee comment due to my resists, i think playing a warlock it be kind of sad for me to make such a comment those that do play warlocks and defend them have never faced them in rvr.

when the nerf hits tho I'm getting ToAed. Because atm, why bother with pve for rvr when you don't need it?

 

[Straef]

so, when sorcs and theurgs are spamming with aoe mez/ice pets from bolt range, thats balance. when someone manages to PREVENT you doing that, its overpowered?

Both the mez and the pets are on shorter range, 500 and 300 range less than the taunt, and they take 1.5 times as long to cast, so they're not nearly as effective, and the bainshee can simply run out of range so they can't be countered by any other casters, as they've simply got silly range. And no, it's not overpowered for being used to prevent enemy interrupts, because it isn't. The bainshee interrupt is exactly the same as any other spell used to interrupt; it's meant to interrupt enemies, not just to prevent them doing so to you.

 

[Gamah]

Pure and utter bullshit m8. You are a lieing until you show us some screenshots. You should maybe ask around on how spells and how their cap damage works. Someone correct me please because I seem to forgotten the exact formula but can a rr3 bainshee get 849 in their damage cap? I doubt it but if they would, they would need to have mom5 and a void to eld to debuff for them.

All these Bainshee damage things are overhyped I remember about 10 different people claiming rr2 bainshees nuking for 800/time of 50% body, it was a joke..Worse was that people accepted it as truth. Proof in the pudding that most people when crying for nerfs don't know shit about the class they want to nerf.

 

[Straef]

I don't generally get nuked over 400-500 damage by bainshees, other than the ocasional crit, so 800 damage would make me wonder about the sort of template that person would have :d

 

[Stallker]

If so, take away the 3rd bolt.

And i'd say chanters are the worst caster class.

LOL wizards 3rd bolt is useless, wizards need more toys for soloing atm tbh ive nealry always had to solo on my wiz and its impossible no Nearsight no stun no pet no nothing

 

[Emmet]

Thank you, repped. Point proven, you are wrong Emmet.

you suck, i dont even want to talk to you about this.. you have nothing with this to do tbh

 

[Puppet]

aye you are right there m8 infact i don't think i have a magic resist above 10%, my rogs are aimed specifically towards damage. However my melee resists are close to cap. But like you said, most casters that fight a warlock 1v1 are gunna either be instakilled or interupted with banelord. My wl has close to 1700hp but gets hit like you said for 650 or so by most toaed casters. IF you were reffering to me about the whine on bainshee comment due to my resists, i think playing a warlock it be kind of sad for me to make such a comment those that do play warlocks and defend them have never faced them in rvr.

when the nerf hits tho I'm getting ToAed. Because atm, why bother with pve for rvr when you don't need it?

Atleast you're honest about it

 

[rure]

you suck, i dont even want to talk to you about this.. you have nothing with this to do tbh

I suppose that's one way to argue when you've been proven wrong.