A day to remember....

[griralith]

this is taken from the fresh 1.75 release notes...




Warlock

- Warlocks are able to combine certain abilities in ways that, in conjunction with a few of their high damage spells, significantly overpowers them. This is exaggerated even more because the amount of damage done by certain Warlocks spells is so high. To help mitigate this issue, we have reduced the damage for the following Hexing spell lines :

2 Lesser Beguiled Pain - Damage : 10
3 Beguiled Pain - Damage : 15
8 Greater Beguiled Pain - Damage : 34
13 Lesser Beguiled Pain - Damage : 66
18 Beguiled Injury- Damage : 77
24 Greater Beguiled Injury - Damage : 97
34 Lesser Beguiled Hex - Damage : 135
43 Beguiled Hex - Damage : 168
49 Greater Beguiled Hex - Damage : 191

5 Infernal Sore - Damage : 9/pulse
9 Infernal Eruption - Damage : 15/pulse
19 Infernal Rot - Damage : 37/pulse
30 Infernal Degeneration - Damage : 55/pulse
41 Infernal Infection - Damage : 76/pulse
46 Infernal Erosion - Damage : 88/pulse


Seems there is fairness in life afterall

 

[Knolan]

grats on the #100 thread about the nerf!


on a serious note... they have more spells to use, i personally dont think it will make much of a difference, unless your solo and get DoT'ted

 

[pbaz]

fresh 1.75 release notes

1.75 Patch Notes. Posted By: Sanya Thomas 2005-03-17

3 months stale, fyi. But glad to see us getting 1.75, anyhow.

 

[Mas]

this is taken from the fresh 1.75 release notes...




Warlock

- Warlocks are able to combine certain abilities in ways that, in conjunction with a few of their high damage spells, significantly overpowers them. This is exaggerated even more because the amount of damage done by certain Warlocks spells is so high. To help mitigate this issue, we have reduced the damage for the following Hexing spell lines :

2 Lesser Beguiled Pain - Damage : 10
3 Beguiled Pain - Damage : 15
8 Greater Beguiled Pain - Damage : 34
13 Lesser Beguiled Pain - Damage : 66
18 Beguiled Injury- Damage : 77
24 Greater Beguiled Injury - Damage : 97
34 Lesser Beguiled Hex - Damage : 135
43 Beguiled Hex - Damage : 168
49 Greater Beguiled Hex - Damage : 191

5 Infernal Sore - Damage : 9/pulse
9 Infernal Eruption - Damage : 15/pulse
19 Infernal Rot - Damage : 37/pulse
30 Infernal Degeneration - Damage : 55/pulse
41 Infernal Infection - Damage : 76/pulse
46 Infernal Erosion - Damage : 88/pulse


Seems there is fairness in life afterall

Bet you still drop like a cheap pair of whores knickers after the nerf against warlocks

 

[Knolan]

Bet you still drop like a cheap pair of whores knickers after the nerf against warlocks

the guy who's e-peen suddenly came to "i think im leet" status when he rolled a WL uke:

 

[rure]

Bet you still drop like a cheap pair of whores knickers after the nerf against warlocks

You are stupid.

 

[trycorn]

Bet you still drop like a cheap pair of whores knickers after the nerf against warlocks

aoe mezz, cleric stun, c ya warcock ....

 

[Belomar]

Bet you still drop like a cheap pair of whores knickers after the nerf against warlocks

Oooh, another place to spam!

 

[Mas]

All thats left is the hibbie board belomar, im sure you can squeeze that in, and knolan talking bout e-peens, when you would only give crack to your grp members only back in TMM cause you had elite red crack, then went all fotm and rolled hib then went back alb .......... sigh

 

[Huntingtons]

Oooh, another place to spam!

gotta love it tbh

 

[Tzan]

i got jealous sorry..

but my pic wont show like belo's

 

[Flimgoblin]

warlocks are slightly less stupidly overpowered post-nerf, you'll have to have half a brain to gank people with them (rather than the current "no brain required")

Still seriously needing a few more cracks of the nerf du boeuf though.

 

[Baldrian]

Still say the problem with warlocks is not just the damage, its also the having longer range than ANY other class.

Camp tower with 3-4 warlocks and no one ever comes near.

 

[Knolan]

All thats left is the hibbie board belomar, im sure you can squeeze that in, and knolan talking bout e-peens, when you would only give crack to your grp members only back in TMM cause you had elite red crack, then went all fotm and rolled hib then went back alb .......... sigh

at least i didnt roll a warlock... says enough tbh

think i can be quite proud at myself, i seemed to have left you with quite a trauma! since its the 3rd time you mention it. i dont even know who you are and frankly i couldnt give a fuck either.

 

[Mas]

at least i didnt roll a warlock... says enough tbh

think i can be quite proud at myself, i seemed to have left you with quite a trauma! since its the 3rd time you mention it. i dont even know who you are and frankly i couldnt give a fuck either.

3rd time i mentioned it first time you replied, so it is the same 14 yr old dude then is it, then i expect no better form your posts, as you have clearly demonstrated.

 

[Mas]

warlocks are slightly less stupidly overpowered post-nerf, you'll have to have half a brain to gank people with them (rather than the current "no brain required")

Still seriously needing a few more cracks of the nerf du boeuf though.

What would you like to see nerfed flim ? How would you make them a balanced char ?

 

[Downanael]

What would you like to see nerfed flim ? How would you make them a balanced char ?

put dd's dmg's to normal casters,remove chambers but keep the double cast with dex bit affecting it.

On short,remove the insta shit

 

[[FC]Maramar]

hi definitely!~

 

[Knolan]

3rd time i mentioned it first time you replied, so it is the same 14 yr old dude then is it, then i expect no better form your posts, as you have clearly demonstrated.

your clearly not having your information right.

 

[Flimgoblin]

What would you like to see nerfed flim ? How would you make them a balanced char ?

either:
put a 20s timer on the uninterruptable primer (shorter timer based on witchcraft spec)

or

make all the primers fixed casting time (like the curse spells)

or

remove the damage spells from what was meant to be the utility line (hexing)

fixed!

 

[Mas]

either:
put a 20s timer on the uninterruptable primer (shorter timer based on witchcraft spec)

or

make all the primers fixed casting time (like the curse spells)

or

remove the damage spells from what was meant to be the utility line (hexing)

fixed!

Point 1 ok fair enough, may need more spec points however to do that.

Point 2 Primers Fixed cast times of 4 secs is prerty bad, after chambers we are limited to 4sec casts, would be an utter waste of a char. unit cast 4 sec, be dead before its cast, now if it was dex modified then yes this is ok.

Point 3 Again ok point, but need damage in some line, and again may need more spec points as the only option would be tri spec.

For me, id make chambers 20 min and lost if not used, Keep primers as they are dex modified, Put spreadheal into another line, drop pom and give speed instead.

 

[Sollers]

What would you like to see nerfed flim ? How would you make them a balanced char ?

I'd say deleting them would be a nice start

Then give sorcs baseline insta lifetap and SoS, and I'm a happy bunny

<3

 

[Flimgoblin]

Point 2 Primers Fixed cast times of 4 secs is prerty bad, after chambers we are limited to 4sec casts, would be an utter waste of a char. unit cast 4 sec, be dead before its cast, now if it was dex modified then yes this is ok.

Point 3 Again ok point, but need damage in some line, and again may need more spec points as the only option would be tri spec.

For me, id make chambers 20 min and lost if not used, Keep primers as they are dex modified, Put spreadheal into another line, drop pom and give speed instead.

point 2 - not necessarily 4 seconds, but just fixed cast time (i.e. fixed at 2s or fixed at 1.5) - one of the big things about warlocks in beta was that they didn't benefit much from buffbots because of the fixed cast times. They removed the recast timers on the primers and suddenly they were just like every other caster.

Curse is the damage line, with chambers allowing you to get the spells off when you're not able to spend 4 seconds casting ... - the warlock should have been a utility caster not a damage caster - they could fire off nasty double-barreled hits (with weaving spells together) and be good in a number of situations (normal heals, spreadheal, nearsight, snare, extra range, bolts) but for sustained nuking not the best.

Unfortunately all they are is an "uninterruptable lifetapper class" to just about everyone...


added: not a bad suggestion there- remove the chamberdump thing... personally I quite like the chambering as a system but dislike the 5 or 6 UI casts afterwards... to reduce the oneshotting maybe reduce the damage of spells in chambers.

 

[Mas]

added: not a bad suggestion there- remove the chamberdump thing... personally I quite like the chambering as a system but dislike the 5 or 6 UI casts afterwards... to reduce the oneshotting maybe reduce the damage of spells in chambers.

Thats part of the nerf in 1.75 DPS in chambers, as well with LT and dot. 3 chamber specs stil harnesses more dps than 2 chamber spec with added bonus of faster powerless and lower pow usage on unit, and of course the bolt in chamber 3.