ECA said:Tom, you cant expect them to see that, I've only posted the fighter jet disintegrating when it hit the concrete wall about five times in other WTC threads.
Why bother? They dont wanna know.
Krazeh said:And just a final point, I take it you are all aware of how a conman operates? The most important aspect of a con is showing whoever you are trying to con exactly what they expect to see so they don't have any reason to question what has happened. If the US Government had a hand in this do you not think they would have ensured that we saw exactly what we expected to see and not have left loads of little supposed questions floating around for conspiracy theorists to jump all over?
Tom said:The best conspiracy theories throw just enough truth into the mix of misquotes, lies, scaremongering and misinformation to make them seem plausible.
Krazeh said:Quick question for the conspiracy theorists. What purpose did the US Government have for killing 3000 of their citizens, destroying 3 buildings in the World Trade Centre and destroying a chunk of their military command?
Krazeh said:Also how is it that not a single person involved in this "conspiracy" has not come forward? Any conspiracy theory on the scale you are proposing would require hundreds of people to pull off yet noone has had an attack of conscience and spoke up. This includes all the people who would have been required to wire up the WTC for controlled demolition and therefore would have spent a considerable amount of time around the people who died when the towers collapsed.
Mofo8 said:Google 'Enron', 'Taliban' and 'Pipeline' just for starters. Then Google 'Department of Homeland Security' and 'Patriot Act'. Then look for sites talking about the $100 billion in suspicious insider trading done in the towers early that morning.
So.... if someone from within the US Government or Military and/or a foreign power like Mossad did it, it would require thousands of people, but, if on the other hand it was Osama's lot, all you'd need is 1 old man in a cave and 19 arabs?
Here someone describes a scenario in which as little as 50 people would need to be involved.
Mofo8 said:Google 'Enron', 'Taliban' and 'Pipeline' just for starters. Then Google 'Department of Homeland Security' and 'Patriot Act'. Then look for sites talking about the $100 billion in suspicious insider trading done in the towers early that morning.
ECA said:Yes why dont you.
And then add +debunk.
Fucksticks.
Wij said:So pointless - the conspiracy theories aren't even consistent. You debunk one aspect and they move onto another. They point stuff out as weird which just makes no sense when you think about it (like where is the debris from the planes that hit the twin towers - i mean who fucking cares we all SAW them hit them - it's a fact). Nobody can keep enough info in their head to see if every theory has been debunked so they carry on because that's what they want to believe.
Sad wastes of life.
Mofo8 said:I personally believe that passenger aircraft impacted with both the main towers of the WTC. I don't believe that the collapse was due to this or that some old arab on dialysis and 19 arab flight school drop-outs (many of whom are blatantley alive) did IT. Is no-one else bothered by the fact that Bush:
1) Squirmed his way into power
2) Has links with Enron
3) Has links with 'Big Oil'
4) Has links with the Bin Ladens
5) Is a complete fuckwit?
mofo8 said:So... what are you saying? That there was no talks between the USA, Enron and the Taliban about a pipeline? Funny because even I remember that from before 9/11 or as I like to call it 11th September 2001, there were talks that failed....
mofo8 said:Or are you saying that there was no suspicious trading prior to the attacks? If so... then you are an arsehole! Excuse my cunting French!
mofo8 said:Or are you saying that the Patriot Act and the DHS have made the USA and the world a safer, fluffier place to live.... bollocks.... poor old George Orwell must have span right out of his fucking grave by now..... endless war against terror.... et fucking cetera
Mofo8 said:19 arab flight school drop-outs (many of whom are blatantley alive) did IT.
I should write a spackypedia artical debunking Tom as an urban mythCalaen said:Now there is a thought.
Lets see what Tom finds on Wikipedia to squash your evil way of thinking
Tom said:I've still not had an answer to the question of debris falling more quickly than the collapse of the twin towers.
Paradroid said:You've been told ... there were explosives ... explosives make things accelerate.
Paradroid said:3-part vid on 911 demolition worth watching (30 mins a piece):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7143212690219513043&q=911+Mysteries+-+Demolitions
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-999558027849894376&q=911+Mysteries+-+Demolitions
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1162851149755261569&sourceid=zeitgeist
Paradroid said:...the more I see the more I'm convinced something was up.
I mean, take something simple like all the arguments about the maximum temperature that aviation fuel can burn at. Everyone agreed is couldn't melt steel, the official story says it "softened" it (but also failed to explain how all the steel supports magically softened, but I digress). These videos (and many others) show molten steel flowing from parts of the building, there was molten steel under the rubble for days after the collapse - a clear indication thermite/thermate was used.
Paradroid said:I would be keen to adopt the view "they knew about it, but did nothing" (as it fitted their needs at home & abroad).
....but, when you consider Larry Silverstein bought the complex just a few short months before hand (and got $7 BILLION in insurance from a $14 MILLION investment), Bush's younger brother (and cousin?) ran the security company that had the contract for the WTC (and one of the highjackers airports), the week before 911 there was a highly unusual amount of maintenance (electricity was cut-out, free access throughout the complex, reports of whole floors being empty but with heavy machinery being moved around, and coincidences upon coincidences like no other day in the history of the universe). So, on reflection I'd have to choose "people on the inside made this happen they way it happened". Street theatre of the NWO.
Tom said:Right, heres the question you should be able to answer then:
Who gave the order?
Who was it who said "hey guys, lets fool the public into thinking that Islamic fundamentalist terrorists flew passenger aircraft into our landmarks"?
Who was it who stood there and suggested this, and was sure that of the many hundreds, possibly thousands of people required to carry out this crime, not a single one of them would have a slight pang of concience and spill the beans? Christ, Watergate was a simple bugging of a few offices, and look how that turned out....
Paradroid said:You've been told ... there were explosives ... explosives make things accelerate.
3-part vid on 911 demolition worth watching (30 mins a piece):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7143212690219513043&q=911+Mysteries+-+Demolitions
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-999558027849894376&q=911+Mysteries+-+Demolitions
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1162851149755261569&sourceid=zeitgeist
...the more I see the more I'm convinced something was up.
I mean, take something simple like all the arguments about the maximum temperature that aviation fuel can burn at. Everyone agreed is couldn't melt steel, the official story says it "softened" it (but also failed to explain how all the steel supports magically softened, but I digress). These videos (and many others) show molten steel flowing from parts of the building, there was molten steel under the rubble for days after the collapse - a clear indication thermite/thermate was used.
I would be keen to adopt the view "they knew about it, but did nothing" (as it fitted their needs at home & abroad).
....but, when you consider Larry Silverstein bought the complex just a few short months before hand (and got $7 BILLION in insurance from a $14 MILLION investment), Bush's younger brother (and cousin?) ran the security company that had the contract for the WTC (and one of the highjackers airports), the week before 911 there was a highly unusual amount of maintenance (electricity was cut-out, free access throughout the complex, reports of whole floors being empty but with heavy machinery being moved around, and coincidences upon coincidences like no other day in the history of the universe). So, on reflection I'd have to choose "people on the inside made this happen they way it happened". Street theatre of the NWO.
Wij said:Indeed - it's laughable to think you could cover this up and noone would squeal.
Mofo8 said:Guys.... what made the bits of the building go upwards? (like in this picture?), gravity?
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