Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

[DaGaffer]

how our democracy is actually real?)

It isn't. That's been obvious for a very long time. British "democracy" is just sweeping out the cunts every few years on general principles to suppress their corruption, it doesn't change anything really.

But, you get the politics you deserve.

 

[Scouse]

But, you get the politics you deserve.

I mean, is that a moral judgement on the British people or an intellectual judgement on the human race?

I'm all with you if it's the latter...

 

[Embattle]

So, Article 8 of the Human Rights Act is a "loophole", accoring to Starmer.

Yvette Cooper reviews right to family life for people who enter UK irregularly

Government reviews use of human rights law to argue for people being allowed to stay, which PM called a ‘loophole’

www.theguardian.com

Can someone who voted for Labour please explain to me how they're any different to the Tories?

(Or even better - as they're all clearly the same, how our democracy is actually real?)

Naturally I believe the excuse of a right to family life is utter bollocks.

 

[Scouse]

Naturally I believe the excuse of a right to family life is utter bollocks.

Obviously, ofc. You want the ECHR rules to only apply to you and people you like, rather than be the protection from Governments that they were originally envisaged as.

 

[Scouse]

@Gwadien :

Labour’s great nature sellout is the worst attack on England’s ecosystems I’ve seen in my lifetime | George Monbiot

The horrifying planning bill, which rips up environmental protections, was drafted with CEOs in mind. We know because Keir Starmer told us, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

Labour.

 

[Gwadien]

@Gwadien :

Labour’s great nature sellout is the worst attack on England’s ecosystems I’ve seen in my lifetime | George Monbiot

The horrifying planning bill, which rips up environmental protections, was drafted with CEOs in mind. We know because Keir Starmer told us, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

Labour.

Wokery, lost votes.

 

[Gwadien]

Plus Labour aren't even the party for this - The Tories are (primarily to keep the poor out).

As for climate change - the parties copy each other according to popular opinion and what else is going on in the world.

 

[Scouse]

The Tories didn't, and wouldn't, do that @Gwadien

 

[Gwadien]

The Tories didn't, and wouldn't, do that @Gwadien

What are you talking about? Actual Tories (As in not the new post truth Magalite cunts) love the great British countryside.

Tories are a rural party, Labour are a urban party.

 

[Scouse]

Government not taking climate threats seriously - watchdog

The government has made little progress in preparing the UK for rising temperatures, climate watchdog the CCC says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Raven]

Local elections, I have a conundrum. Vote Green, because I want to vote Green. Or vote Tory, to keep the Reform vermin out.

 

[Raven]

Fuck it, 1 Labour, 1 Green, 1 Lib Dem ticked.

 

[Scouse]

Local elections, I have a conundrum. Vote Green, because I want to vote Green. Or vote Tory, to keep the Reform vermin out.

Would have done green.

At this point the Tory party is Reform. Labour are an authoritarian Tory shitshow and the Liberals are anything but.

Green'd never get in, but it sends a message.

 

[Overdriven]

Local elections: Ours were cancelled due to "a restructure"

 

[Embattle]

My postal vote was done a couple of weeks ago, voted Lib Dem.

 

[Raven]

Local elections: Ours were cancelled due to "a restructure"

We had our democracy denied because of gross incompetence, too!

 

[Raven]

I know it's "only" local elections, but it looks disappointing as fuck this morning. Have Reform really weaselled themselves into the ear of all the stupid people now?

I guess they have ~3 years to completely dismantle councils, so it could work out well for the national landscape, when all services get worse.

 

[Overdriven]

I'm now 100% into the camp that voting should be mandated by law.

There's no excuse not to vote between postal and in person.

30% turnout and Reform wins, that's insanity.

 

[Raven]

I'm now 100% into the camp that voting should be mandated by law.

There's no excuse not to vote between postal and in person.

30% turnout and Reform wins, that's insanity.

I live next door to the polling station, and my wife, who works from home, "couldn't be bothered" livid...

 

[Scouse]

If you hate them all and none of them have an offering then not voting is also expressing an opinion.

It was clearly a waste of time voting Labour in.

Reform is getting the "I'm angry" vote. Nobody else is stepping up with an offering that gets people out of the door.

 

[Overdriven]

If you hate them all and none of them have an offering then not voting is also expressing an opinion.

It was clearly a waste of time voting Labour in.

Reform is getting the "I'm angry" vote. Nobody else is stepping up with an offering that gets people out of the door.

A wasted vote could go to Green. Just because people disagree doesn't mean they need to go far right off the bat.

Their policies are probably as poor, but at least they stand for something.

 

[Scouse]

A wasted vote could go to Green. Just because people disagree doesn't mean they need to go far right off the bat.

Maybe they agree with Reform and are sick of being poor, downtrodden and lectured to by a succession of governments which have overseen a lowering of living standards?

The left clearly offers nothing.

 

[Scouse]

Brexit should have been a wake up call. But our politicians have offered nothing to huge swathes of society.

We denigrate them, call them retards and morons. Then Reform comes along, speaks to them, motivates them - and we complain when these people vote for them.

But we don't offer anything better. Reform may be lying, but last time I looked Labour's lies were still lies.

Politics in the UK is by the rich, for the rich. Whatever party you vote for. Notions of "less bad" are pointless platitudes. It's very easily arguable that not bothering to vote is the only rational action...

 

[Scouse]

A vote for any of our major parties is a vote in support of this:

Gaza humanitarian aid ship bombed by drones in waters off Malta

Freedom Flotilla Coalition claims Israel to blame for attack on unarmed civilian vessel in international waters

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

Devon has gone to no overall control from Tories with Libs winning most seats and Reform the next most, Tories got murdered.