Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

[Embattle]

An absolutely scathing review of the haunted lettuce:

Liz Truss’s ludicrous memoir shows how unworthy of office our shortest-serving PM was

It’s rare for a political memoir to be as self-serving and poorly composed as ‘Ten Years to Save the West’, in which Truss recaps her doomed, disastrous 49 days in office. Whether she’s being informed of the Queen’s death or crashing the economy, the deluded former PM reserves the greatest...

www.independent.co.uk

She is an utter delusional cunt.

 

[Scouse]

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID

The former prime minister returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

So then. I'd argue NOT a great performance from Labour. Sure they've gained a stack of councillors, but "other" parties add up to significantly more.

Shows that voters are thinking "fuck labour". Maybe it's because they've retreated from their economic, environmental and social policies and are now indistinguishable from the Tories in that respect? Maybe it's because people can see they've already been making noises about it being about time we "gave up some of our freedoms" so they can jump on the ID card bandwagon again. Or maybe it's because Starmer is a zionist, and a supporter of genocidal child-death by starvation.

Either way. Labour is going to sell it as a massive swing. But it's clearly because we want shot of the Tories, not because of any great desire for this shower of cunts.

 

[Wij]

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID

The former prime minister returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

So then. I'd argue NOT a great performance from Labour. Sure they've gained a stack of councillors, but "other" parties add up to significantly more.

Shows that voters are thinking "fuck labour". Maybe it's because they've retreated from their economic, environmental and social policies and are now indistinguishable from the Tories in that respect? Maybe it's because people can see they've already been making noises about it being about time we "gave up some of our freedoms" so they can jump on the ID card bandwagon again. Or maybe it's because Starmer is a zionist, and a supporter of genocidal child-death by starvation.

Either way. Labour is going to sell it as a massive swing. But it's clearly because we want shot of the Tories, not because of any great desire for this shower of cunts.

Ok. But they’ll still win the general election.

 

[Scouse]

Ok. But they’ll still win the general election.

No doubt at all.

 

[Scouse]

Interestingly - the odds of 1/16 for a Labour government at the next General Election work out at 6.25%.

That's a pretty good return on investment on what is all but a certainty

 

[Tom]

Really quite annoying how so many articles and political commentators are missing the point that Boris Johnson didn't forget his ID, he just turned up without it to cement his "bumbling but loveable idiot" image. Ready for a return to power when the Tories are annihilated.

He may be awful but he isn't stupid.

 

[Wij]

Really quite annoying how so many articles and political commentators are missing the point that Boris Johnson didn't forget his ID, he just turned up without it to cement his "bumbling but loveable idiot" image. Ready for a return to power when the Tories are annihilated.

He may be awful but he isn't stupid.

Getting attention is his default, regardless of purpose.

 

[Raven]

Reform on fuck all.

 

[DaGaffer]

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID

The former prime minister returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

So then. I'd argue NOT a great performance from Labour. Sure they've gained a stack of councillors, but "other" parties add up to significantly more.

Shows that voters are thinking "fuck labour". Maybe it's because they've retreated from their economic, environmental and social policies and are now indistinguishable from the Tories in that respect? Maybe it's because people can see they've already been making noises about it being about time we "gave up some of our freedoms" so they can jump on the ID card bandwagon again. Or maybe it's because Starmer is a zionist, and a supporter of genocidal child-death by starvation.

Either way. Labour is going to sell it as a massive swing. But it's clearly because we want shot of the Tories, not because of any great desire for this shower of cunts.

Looking like a strong Labour showing to me; 2/3 of the Tories' council losses are going their way at the moment. If there was an attempt to put Labour in their box, the Lib Dems would be doing much better; they have at council level in the past (they should be beating the Tories not just catching up to their diminished state. And the Greens aren't exactly flying either; that's what happens when you forget that you're supposed to be about the environment more than identity politics.

 

[Wij]

Looking like a strong Labour showing to me; 2/3 of the Tories' council losses are going their way at the moment. If there was an attempt to put Labour in their box, the Lib Dems would be doing much better; they have at council level in the past (they should be beating the Tories not just catching up to their diminished state. And the Greens aren't exactly flying either; that's what happens when you forget that you're supposed to be about the environment more than identity politics.

The whole green movement should be doing a lot better but has been hijacked by pricks. In the US their Green Party is just a front for Putin. In the UK it is a front for men to live out their sissy porn fantasies.

 

[Scouse]

I'm not saying it's not a strong showing am I. But it's clearly not people rushing to Labour - more away from the Tories.

Even the guardian has made that analysis:

Big Tory losses but no Labour landslide. What might happen at Westminster? – a visual analysis

Tory representation has imploded, but Labour’s gains have not been seismic. These charts show what this may signal for a general election

www.theguardian.com

Agree on the greens though. They jumped on a mistaken populist bandwagon when they should be single issue focussed and a method of holding big parties (e.g. Labour) to account for ditching green policies.

But still - "no Labour landslide". And I stand by my observations above for being the primary reasons for that.

 

[Tom]

The awful local Tory candidate for Manchester Mayor just tweeted that she didn't win, but the result showed Manchester wanted change.

She got a worse result than the last time, four years ago. She got about 10% of the vote.

The only change Manchester wants is change for her bus fare. She's fucking awful, almost as bad as Susan Hall.

 

[Embattle]

A week is a long time in politics: Panesar quits Workers party after seven days

The former England cricketer Monty Panesar has pulled out of standing for George Galloway’s Workers party of Great Britain after just one week

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

Green, then anyone?

Before answering, read this:

‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair

Exclusive: Survey of hundreds of experts reveals harrowing picture of future, but they warn climate fight must not be abandoned

www.theguardian.com

 

[Raven]

I am pretty pissed off over the whole Elphicke thing, it's pointless, horrible woman, not needed, so why? It will cost votes, poor judgement.

 

[Tom]

Probably just to get Tory backbenchers grumbling about Sunak. She'll probably quit next election.

 

[Scouse]

Probably just to get Tory backbenchers grumbling about Sunak. She'll probably quit next election.

Thought she wasn't going to stand in a seat - so yeah.

Labours problems are bigger than that anyway. They'll still win, of course, but huge swathes of people (not just muslims) aren't forgiving Starmer for saying turning off water and food to an entire population was OK.

He's a dirty cunt, and as long as he's head of Labour, I won't be voting for them.

 

[Embattle]

So it has now been called, 4th July.

 

[Raven]

 

[Scouse]

Yep. So Labour need all our scrutiny. They're going to be in government in a month and a half, so we *really* need to turn our eyes to A) what they say they're going to do and B) are they fucking doing it?

A bit like Biden post-Trump, who said he wasn't Trump, but then turned out to do pretty much the same things that Trump did, whilst pretending not to.

 

[Ormorof]

Except for all the crime and selling state secrets

 

[Scouse]

Meh. The files at mar-e-lago and paying porn actresses is sideshow stuff.

It's the policies enacted that are material to the lives of americans, and to the whole planet. And the policies are near identical.

 

[Tom]

Presidents don't have unlimited power, there's only so many things they can do. But I can't ever see Biden having an unrecorded, private meeting with Putin for two hours. Or revealing highly sensitive state secrets.

 

[Scouse]

Sideshow stuff.

For example. in his first year Biden signed off on more oil permits than Trump did at his max - by a substantial margin. That's material. A couple of hours chat with Putin? Who cares. Millions of extra barrels of oil per day? That's the news. And he continued in a similar vein.

It's just not sexy though eh. He's not a "bad man".

Trump's a thundercunt. But the important criminality is ongoing. Meanwhile everyone's looking at Trump.

Meh. I don't care about either of them. I care what the government of the most powerful country in the world does.

 

[BloodOmen]

Yep. So Labour need all our scrutiny. They're going to be in government in a month and a half, so we *really* need to turn our eyes to A) what they say they're going to do and B) are they fucking doing it?

A bit like Biden post-Trump, who said he wasn't Trump, but then turned out to do pretty much the same things that Trump did, whilst pretending not to.

As much as I love seeing the back of the Tories I've got this gut feeling Labour are going to pass some really stupid woke shit.

 

[Overdriven]

As much as I love seeing the back of the Tories I've got this gut feeling Labour are going to pass some really stupid woke shit.

Dammed if they do, dammed if they don't

A decade plus of Stockholm Syndrome is getting a bit tiring. Let's try something new.

 

[Scouse]

Let's try something new.

Vote green then.

Starmer has gone out of his way to show Tory voters that he's going to continue with their economic management style (bar tinkering).

All that leaves them is legislating our morality - which the left loves.

 

[Wij]

Vote green then.

I thought you were against authoritarian policies? The greens want to stop us calling men men.

 

[Scouse]

I thought you were against authoritarian policies? The greens want to stop us calling men men.

I've staked out my position repeatedly. The greens will never get in - but a vote for the greens loudly signals the importance of green policies - whether that's on climate change, net zero, biodiversity loss, animal welfare, yadda yadda yadda.

A vote for Labour as a "get the tories out" vote - which is exactly what it is - is a vote for more of the same.

I think we get better politics without massive majorities too. I think Labour will get a big majority - but Labour are less Labour than even New Labour was.

 

[Scouse]

The greens want to stop us calling men men.

To be fair, if you want to single-issue vote on this - then vote Tory.

Sunak says biological sex is paramount. Starmer has been equivocating, based on public opinion. Previously he was effectively a member of the green party but recently he's grudgingly accepted that women have a cervix.