Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

[Ormorof]

Nick Clegg what a chump

 

[DaGaffer]

Says the man knee bending to Mark Zuckerberg:

Starmer's knee-bending to Donald Trump is cringey, says Nick Clegg

The former deputy PM says Starmer and Trump's relationship is "getting a bit embarrassing".

www.bbc.co.uk

One is a someone doing a job they were paid for as an employee (and no longer does that job), the other is painful sycophancy because the UK is economically fucked and needs America more than at any time since 1940. Really not equivalent.

 

[caLLous]

And, funnily enough, one of the reasons Clegg went is supposedly so that Meta could put someone more amenable to Trump in his place.

 

[Gwadien]

And, funnily enough, one of the reasons Clegg went is supposedly so that Meta could put someone more amenable to Trump in his place.

I think it's more that he didn't want Zuck to be cosying up to Trump.

I think it's telling all the social media companies had decent people working in ethics and they all resigned when Trump was elected.

 

[caLLous]

I think it's more that he didn't want Zuck to be cosying up to Trump.

I think it's telling all the social media companies had decent people working in ethics and they all resigned when Trump was elected.

Yep, either way, he was replaced conveniently and swiftly by a Trump lackey.

Meta appoints new Trump-friendly policy chief

Meta is shaking up its policy team ahead of Trump’s inauguration.

www.theverge.com

 

[Gwadien]

Yep, either way, he was replaced conveniently and swiftly by a Trump lackey.

Meta appoints new Trump-friendly policy chief

Meta is shaking up its policy team ahead of Trump’s inauguration.

www.theverge.com

I don't get it, the tech bros really seem to be banking hard on MAGA being a thing forever.

 

[Tom]

They're just demonstrating that their only principles are to make money.

 

[Scouse]

Yeah, whoever's in next they'll sack that next chief and put someone more amenable into whoever's coming in.

Whichever way the wind blows, keep your eye on the prize.

 

[Ormorof]

Maybe they'll hire Mandelson

 

[DaGaffer]

I don't get it, the tech bros really seem to be banking hard on MAGA being a thing forever.

Trump dies, Vance is Peter Theil's acolyte, they rig the system. Game over. And a lot of these cunts are believers in a hard reset, Kingsman style.

 

[Scouse]

Hmmm. How to "drill, baby, drill" without breaking your manifesto pledge?

Ed Miliband looking into more North Sea drilling despite Labour pledge

Exclusive: Energy secretary examining ways to allow oil and gas exploration without breaking manifesto promise

www.theguardian.com

"Everyone does it" is, I guess, the refrain from Labour supporters. But then, they took the moral high ground before the election and said Labour would be better.

 

[Bodhi]

Hmmm. How to "drill, baby, drill" without breaking your manifesto pledge?

Ed Miliband looking into more North Sea drilling despite Labour pledge

Exclusive: Energy secretary examining ways to allow oil and gas exploration without breaking manifesto promise

www.theguardian.com

"Everyone does it" is, I guess, the refrain from Labour supporters. But then, they took the moral high ground before the election and said Labour would be better.

A case of ideology meeting reality. Like it or not we're going to need O & G for the foreseeable and it makes sense for us to get our own, as the Government gets all the tax revenue from it, rather than it going to Norway/Qatar etc.

Funnily enough the best way to reduce dependency on O & G would be to get building more nuclear (and do it quickly like S Korea) as you don't need Gas when it's dark and/or not windy.

Still a few too many ideologues in power so it'll be a while before such sensible policies are enacted, but I'd hope we'll get there.

 

[Scouse]

get building more nuclear (and do it quickly like S Korea)

Takes 13 years in blighty. Takes about the same time in South Korea.

We're building them, but it's really fucking expensive and takes fucking ages.

And, of course, we pick up the bill for the waste in perpetuity.

 

[Bodhi]

Takes 13 years in blighty. Takes about the same time in South Korea.

We're building them, but it's really fucking expensive and takes fucking ages.

And, of course, we pick up the bill for the waste in perpetuity.

It does not take the same time in South Korea.

 

[Scouse]

Construction time is quicker. But the full-lifecycle isn't massively ahead of the UK.

The biggest bottleneck in the UK is the privatised energy market - it makes it difficult to secure the funding. South Korea just fucking builds them.

 

[caLLous]

I'm not in principle against an ID card but... Brit Card was the name they landed on? Sounds like some naff public transport scheme.

 

[Ormorof]

They could call it BrexID

 

[Raven]

Good'ol'France.

Nicolas Sarkozy sentenced to five years in Libya campaign financing case

Nicolas Sarkozy, president from 2007-12, was found guilty of criminal conspiracy but cleared of other charges.

www.bbc.co.uk

Exactly the sort of thing we should be pursuing.

 

[Scouse]

Keir Starmer to announce plans for digital ID scheme

The prime minister believes a new scheme would help crack down on illegal working in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

Can I wish death on him now, before I end up in jail for saying that?

If someone does kill him, you're all invited to mine for an all-you-can-eat BBQ, with free beer for a long weekend, walking in the hills, and axe-throwing with a paper cut-out of Starmer's face as the target.

 

[Embattle]

Lovely, let's see how many mistakes are made.

 

[Deebs]

Keir Starmer to announce plans for digital ID scheme

The prime minister believes a new scheme would help crack down on illegal working in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

Can I wish death on him now, before I end up in jail for saying that?

If someone does kill him, you're all invited to mine for an all-you-can-eat BBQ, with free beer for a long weekend, walking in the hills, and axe-throwing with a paper cut-out of Starmer's face as the target.

Fucking hell you are such a shit party planner.

I want to play catch and hold the duck & chicken relay.

 

[Raven]

Well, I won't be carrying it, or participating in it.

 

[Raven]

I am getting sick of seeing this gimp.

Northants council to consder next move on asylum hotels next week

A Reform UK council leader says they are checking if hotel owners are complying with planning law.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks like he sniffs bicycle seats. They have a DOGE company, that is also going to be competing for contracts, because that's not dodgy at all.

 

[Zarjazz]

Well, I won't be carrying it, or participating in it.

Well if it becomes law you will have to.

I'm in two minds about it all. Having one would certainly simplify the shit tonne of paperwork and ID security checks I've had to do recently. I can also understand the privacy concerns, but in this digital day and age I'm inclined to think they are almost a non-issue. It's not exactly hard for the government or other agencies to track or find out everything about you if they wanted to.

 

[Raven]

Well if it becomes law you will have to.

I'm in two minds about it all. Having one would certainly simplify the shit tonne of paperwork and ID security checks I've had to do recently. I can also understand the privacy concerns, but in this digital day and age I'm inclined to think they are almost a non-issue. It's not exactly hard for the government or other agencies to track or find out everything about you if they wanted to.

I'm not bothered about the privacy concerns, well I am, but I already have a passport and photo driving license. So there is no real change.

What I don't like, is where this leads. "Papers, please"

...and what difference does it make to the black market anyway...illegal labour is illegal labour.

 

[Deebs]

I'm not bothered about the privacy concerns, well I am, but I already have a passport and photo driving license. So there is no real change.

What I don't like, is where this leads. "Papers, please"

...and what difference does it make to the black market anyway...illegal labour is illegal labour.

"Papers, <snip>" reminds me of all the war films with Germans and Jews.

 

[Scouse]

Well, I won't be carrying it, or participating in it.

Jail for you then, my dirty little perp. What are you trying to hide?

 

[Scouse]

So, it's already the 7th most popular petition (albeit miles behind the don't brexit one):

If everyone can just sign this petition and then say "signed" so we can really fuck @Embattle off, if nothing else.

Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

We demand that the UK Government immediately commits to not introducing a digital ID cards. There are reports that this is being looked at.

petition.parliament.uk

I mean, Starmer doesn't mind starving babies, so I doubt he'll listen to the will of the people. But it's worth it for the Emb angle alone

 

[Scouse]

...and what difference does it make to the black market anyway...illegal labour is illegal labour.

Yeah. It's the bare-faced lying from Starmer that's boiling my piss the most.

Our local curry house was done for housing a load of illegal immigrants for the asian mafia. I understand they got paid for it, but when the po-po found out they got slapped and had to shut.
When they re-opened, shortly after, the asian mafia showed up with a new car full of illegal immigrants.

Who are you more scared of? The asian mafia, or the police?

Even if you're not mafia-led, if you want to pay someone cash in hand, how the fuck is an ID card going to stop that?

Bike shop not a million miles from me pays a lad cash in hand a couple of days a week. That's a British lad, born and bred, mind. You can bet your ass that if he could find someone cheaper who could do the work, maybe an immigrant, perhaps even one who can't work in the UK legitimately because he's not got a digital ID card, he'd fucking pay him cash in hand too.

Starmer needs to <insert something painful, possibly final, here>...

 

[Deebs]

Yeah. It's the bare-faced lying from Starmer that's boiling my piss the most.

Our local curry house was done for housing a load of illegal immigrants for the asian mafia. I understand they got paid for it, but when the po-po found out they got slapped and had to shut.
When they re-opened, shortly after, the asian mafia showed up with a new car full of illegal immigrants.

Who are you more scared of? The asian mafia, or the police?

Even if you're not mafia-led, if you want to pay someone cash in hand, how the fuck is an ID card going to stop that?

Bike shop not a million miles from me pays a lad cash in hand a couple of days a week. That's a British lad, born and bred, mind. You can bet your ass that if he could find someone cheaper who could do the work, maybe an immigrant, perhaps even one who can't work in the UK legitimately because he's not got a digital ID card, he'd fucking pay him cash in hand too.

Starmer needs to <insert something painful, possibly final, here>...

Sorry for getting sentimental but some sayings in this post brought a massive smile to me this morning.

When Mum and Dad were alive they would go food shopping at Tescos or the equivalent back then, I cannot remember. Anyway when they got back all I could hear was Mum ranting about something and it was only till I got a bit older that I learned what it was about.

Mum was absolutely ashamed of my Dad as at the checkouts all he would say to them entirely sincere was "If I pay cash what discount do I get" as he was used to saying that in other smaller shops/DIY and getting some money knocked off. Didn't faze him that were was a queue behind him but he would try it for a few minutes. Mum used to just walk off and leave him there. Yes I have been with Mum and Dad when he did this little party trick and yes I was gone like a rat up a drainpipe.

We tried, many times, to educate Dad that big high street retailers saw cash as worse than debit/credit cards.