1.83c: Healer, Savage, Wizard and Paladin love!

[scarloc]

Wizzie full reworking indicates they might finally look mentalism when they get round to ments...

Otherwise, those wizzie changes are quite nasty. Still albs ran without elemental resists for long time, most hibs/mid casters dished out the kinda damage wizzies will be doing with debuff component.

Would be fun to see maeloch around again tbh

 

[Celestino]

okok firewizz = damdealer #1 with no utility

they do get bolts + spec dd in one line while all other bolters got to use 179 base dds and lower value bolts but get some utility (like a lowlvl nearsight) in exchange

Now they add some utility and even more damage while leaving the other bolters alone...

I guess its not that much of a change as most casters won't survive the bolts anyway

 

[Varna]

Now they add some utility and even more damage while leaving the other bolters alone...

Their like.. reviewing all classes - I'm sure the underpowered classes on hib that have to limp thru RR's with stuff like baseline stun, will get their love soon enough.

 

[Vladamir]

Teh sky is falling, run for your lives maters!

 

[Konah]

You mean like aurores does? Yeah i imagine it must be fucking awful to nuke for ~800+ against 40% resists.

only if the sorc debuffs for him

chanter can do same for eld, runy can do same for sm, blah, blah

 

[Konah]

on the patch: seems mythic are finally sorting the stuff they shoulda sorted before everyone left. now they're dangling carrots by making heavy mods to the most rolled (and most inactive) classes in the game to tempt the subs back. will it work? well i might finish templating my wiz now

they'll still suck in fg rvr due to lack of self defence tools but least the dmg wont be a bad joke anymore.

 

[Pretarded]

okok firewizz = damdealer #1 with no utility

they do get bolts + spec dd in one line while all other bolters got to use 179 base dds and lower value bolts but get some utility (like a lowlvl nearsight) in exchange

Now they add some utility and even more damage while leaving the other bolters alone...

I guess its not that much of a change as most casters won't survive the bolts anyway

Eldritch is bolter, but bolts are gay so everyone specs light/mana and get 209value dd, red nearsight, mezz, aoe disease, stat debuffs
im not really sure if Eldritch needs fixing ..
never played mid casters, so dunno about rm's.
Its not about "bolting lines" tho, its about fixing damn wizzards, they cant really spec other line like Eldritch, coz other lines suck donkey poop.

 

[Jobbegea]

Eldritch is bolter, but bolts are gay so everyone specs light/mana and get 209value dd, red nearsight, mezz, aoe disease, stat debuffs
im not really sure if Eldritch needs fixing ..
never played mid casters, so dunno about rm's.
Its not about "bolting lines" tho, its about fixing damn wizzards, they cant really spec other line like Eldritch, coz other lines suck donkey poop.

only thing the the rm needs is a little boost in the RC dd.
176delve 3.0 sec cast speed dd.. just sucks
should be OR higher delve (200ish) OR faster cast speed 2.6 or 2.8

 

[Gazon]

I'm certainly gonna try out Earth and Ice spec.

We get matter debuff and AOE DOT in earth now

A good AOE root in ice makes this line alot more interesting.

While any spec wiz can have some NS anyway.

 

[Nix]

Debuff component on a spec nuke is quite over the top. There would have been many other fixes that could be implemented to make wizzies more desirable...

 

[Sparda]

am i the only 1 thats notice they still havent fixed the valks 30% abs debuff style... yeah ok not that much of a damage increase for the valk as we hit for poo anyhow.
Wouldnt wanna be 30% abs debuffed and on the otherend of a zerker assist train though

 

[atos]

PF on savage was a nice fix. I would say that class is pretty solid now.

And tbh the debuff is slightly over the top. Too bad I forgot to SC matter, wizz will be fotm. =(

 

[xxManiacxx]

am i the only 1 thats notice they still havent fixed the valks 30% abs debuff style... yeah ok not that much of a damage increase for the valk as we hit for poo anyhow.
Wouldnt wanna be 30% abs debuffed and on the otherend of a zerker assist train though

Yeah I noticed that aswell. I am thinking that they are doing the same thing that they did to nightshades regarding the kill ability they get (they got both nightshades and infils from kill ability) so that more ppl are rolling valks.

 

[Tuppe]

must agree, that 30% abs debuff is making me scratch head.
valk is nearly fine class now (US servers), few small changes and voila.
but that 30% abs debuff, oh boy, drooling over it or soon start cry because after alb/hibs whine they nerf valk back to hardcore class.

 

[Shike]

try playin a wizz before u complain tbh

bleh blah blih..

I have a fully TOAd wiz..

and still, adding 15% debuff on a 219DD is madness..

If I want debuffs for him I ask my pal to play his bodysorc and debuff and that works just fine, its a balanced combo, to get great damageoutput via someone elses debuffs..

Adding autodebuffs to a heavy nuke is unbalanced on any nuker, doesnt matter which one and it also removes the element of cooperation to get solid heavy damageoutput for casters. It also makes some speccs and actually toons obsolete.

Sorc debuff wiz, caba debuff sorc, chanter debuff menta and eld, eld debuff bain and ani, runie debuff SMs and rms etc.. these combos are actually quite balanced since it is 2 momentums and also require casters to pay attention and at least assist each others and teamplay.

219DD with 15% debuff with 10% passive piercing, you dont see the mistake here?

Wizards needed more utility... thats what the class always have been lacking.

 

[Serdan]

am i the only 1 thats notice they still havent fixed the valks 30% abs debuff style... yeah ok not that much of a damage increase for the valk as we hit for poo anyhow.
Wouldnt wanna be 30% abs debuffed and on the otherend of a zerker assist train though

What style is that, if I may ask? something in spear line?

 

[xxManiacxx]

It´s the style stab afaik that have the abs debuff

 

[Tuppe]

What style is that, if I may ask? something in spear line?

if remember correct lancer and follover stab, stab doing 30% debuff.
patch note was 3% abs debuff but in reality (pendragon) its doing 30%.
lancer is anytime style.

thou lancer+stab has very low growthrates but that abs debuff (30%) rise it nearly same level what windmill + roundhouse.
heres one ss against one vamp, offcourse quite low resists etc but in end, still quite nice ammount whit windmill + roundhouse.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/enykevas/DAOC/sshot001.jpg

 

[Eeben]

if remember correct lancer and follover stab, stab doing 30% debuff.
patch note was 3% abs debuff but in reality (pendragon) its doing 30%.
lancer is anytime style.

thou lancer+stab has very low growthrates but that abs debuff (30%) rise it nearly same level what windmill + roundhouse.
heres one ss against one vamp, offcourse quite low resists etc but in end, still quite nice ammount whit windmill + roundhouse.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/enykevas/DAOC/sshot001.jpg

why does ppl say valks are gimpet when they can do damge like that ?

 

[Tuppe]

why does ppl say valks are gimpet when they can do damge like that ?

fightclub rules

 

[xxManiacxx]

why does ppl say valks are gimpet when they can do damge like that ?

4 problems.

1: Low ws = miss 5 hit 1
2: Windmill does starter styledamage. it´s the followup Roundhouse that does dmg so see #1
3: End useage. 4 rounds and you are out of end.
4: Procc can be resisted

Edit: Although I have had roundhouse styles which has done 5xx melee dmg and 4xx proccdmg so with luck (and battler+low resists) they can do dmg. But Windmill is such a lowdmg style u qq after only landing that one 3 times and miss on roundhouse everytime.

 

[Serdan]

Midgard spear is fully STR based, right? Buffed Valk shouldnt miss so often, dont think they have lower WS than skalds, for example.

 

[Ryuno]

Midgard spear is fully STR based, right? Buffed Valk shouldnt miss so often, dont think they have lower WS than skalds, for example.

Valks have really shit WS. They are lowest on the table.

Spear is Str and Dex.

 

[Bahumat]

Prevent Flight is what the det tanks had (except savage untill now) its a 10% chance to proc a snare iirc.

 

[xxManiacxx]

Midgard spear is fully STR based, right? Buffed Valk shouldnt miss so often, dont think they have lower WS than skalds, for example.

It´s (str+dex)/2

 

[Overdriven]

I honestly thought this was a personal dating post =( I was looking for a paladin to satisfy my needs...

 

[Mabs]

my valk is 4L2 atm
they do have gank weap skill, around 1500 ish fully buffed, which isnt fun with slow spears

However, when they hit they can hit very hard cumulative. windmill - roundhouse against people tightly packed together can do silly damage due to the pbaoe proc hitting people for around 150-300 each
They can do wonders for interupting casters, with the styles and cone effects, more so when the stationary requirement is removed from the rest of them.
Once the current love notes go live, they should be fine, with charge etc

all that will be required is people attitudes to change rather than the class :wub:

 

[Moaning Myrtle]

compared to runies and elds they definately did. Maybe too op now since they got semifixed with bad nearsight.

Any Wizard worth his salt will not spec less then 50 Fire or Ice, leaving 20 for Earth and thus NS. NS at that level is utter rubbish, exactly like your contention that this fixes the Class.

Think before you post next time...

 

[Moaning Myrtle]

I hope the Paladin Str buff does stack with current Cleric buffs, or there's absolutely no point whatsoever in having it.

 

[Zebolt]

RM love soon?