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Olgaline

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Ch3tan : 3 votes - Opticle, Itcheh, Nate

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old.Tohtori

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Rubric: 5 votes - Ch3tan, Toht, Mabs, Sydrik, Nate

Nate and Itcheh are accusing Ch3t, so I know they are probably innocent, Mabs is dead.

That leaves Sydrik, Toht and Uara. One of you is crooked.

How exactly do you know itcheh and nate are good? Especially since nate was part of rubrics death, and today fast to kill ch3t.

I'm more inclined to vote for you or nate, you because you've played the role claim perfect(saying you looked at a dead person really isn't any proof), but it's a bit too convinient. Also convinient that two people against you yesterday, are now dead. The situation with votes would be 3-2 now if that hadn't happened.

NAte, becasuse of the switch in sides with NO reason and fast bandwagon.
 

old.Tohtori

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Actually i'm really bored of this "i know he's innocent" bullcrap, it only shows that you have info on them and thus, can only mean you lot are spy scum. No sane crew member would go with such blind faith;

vote: opticle
 

Ch3tan

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I don't really understand how I changed my description - once again, you're twisting things. It's getting old. The fact people are clearly failing to see through that raises plenty of suspicion.

Nothing about my description changed, I just added detail that I'd previously omitted once I actually understood my role better - I thought I could be wrong, and that's why I was willing to accept the possibility of Ch3tan being good. I looked into it and realised I couldn't be wrong, he is bad, so I included more information I had - nothing whatsoever changed ??

And seriously, how is considering that he could be good in any way a good move for the bad guy that's just come out to accuse him ??

Either those saying these things are bad, or you're idiots.

Hey guys, I've looked into it more and I now understand my role better. I can't be wrong about opticle because I have this ability to fuck with a Gestapo officer and their blind interrogation methods, call it a 6th sense. :rolleyes:
 

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opti, you question everyone who disagrees with you. You assume good in those that side you way. This is not a popularity contest.
 

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Without sounding too, how to put it, arrogant about it;

If someone can show me how ch3tan is more suspicious then opti, i'll swing my vote, but as it stands, from the two most suspicious folk(since neither died during the night and they're both voting eachother), i'll torpedo out the ship either one if we can reach some kind of census of guilt, outside petty rivalry.
 

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How exactly do you know itcheh and nate are good? Especially since nate was part of rubrics death, and today fast to kill ch3t.

Not much time, but are you having a logic fail ?

I know Ch3t is bad. They want him dead. Therefore, I consider them more likely to be good.

You're trying to read way too much into everything.
 

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Stop peddling bullshit as fact and present your theroies as what they are; theories.

Fine, what I say regarding Nate and Itcheh being innocent are theories based on evidence. What I say regarding you is fact based on my role. I scryed you and it told me you are bad.

Happy? :)

I don't think I've tried to peddle anything, just used logic based on what I know. Which is that you are bad. Over-interpret my language if you like. Obviously that's what you need to do - because you are bad after all.

Uara - true enough, Nate or Itcheh could be lying low, but so long as they're voting Ch3tan, I think it unlikely. If he gets a majoirty and they suddenly switch however, that's different.
 

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Actually i'm really bored of this "i know he's innocent" bullcrap, it only shows that you have info on them and thus, can only mean you lot are spy scum. No sane crew member would go with such blind faith;

vote: opticle

And no, this is also a complete logic fail. I HAVE NO EXTRA INFO. I KNOW Ch3tan is bad. They want Ch3tan dead, therefore I'm pretty damn sure they're good.

Wtf is wrong with you.

It's not bullcrap. It's the truth. Consider that possibility ??

Congrats if we hit nightfall and he's still alive and you're not crooked, you will be responsible for our failure. That is a completely stupid thing to say. It doesn't make any sense.

:twak:
 

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Indeed..7 it is.
(Dead captian has been very busy at work in the afterlife "beeing Xmas'cember time and all ;))


Ch3tan : 3 votes - Opticle, Itcheh, Nate
Opticle: 1 vote - Tohtori
7 Alive,
4 For Majority
 

Ch3tan

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No opticle you cant present a fsct that only you can back up by they way... As for evidence. Ha!
 

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Lol!
next time, place your vote so it wont be missed.

Ch3tan : 3 votes - Opticle, Itcheh, Nate
Opticle: 1 vote - Tohtori, Ch3tan
7 Alive,
4 For Majority
 

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No opticle you cant present a fsct that only you can back up by they way... As for evidence. Ha!

Well, what the hell else am I supposed to do, seeing as I know it's true ? :rolleyes: 1 vote left.. Feeling desperate ?

And for the record, unless they switch now this makes me more certain Itcheh and Nate are good. (I don't need "inside info" to work that one out, Toht)

Uara and Sydrik left.. Toht is voting for me.

One of them is bad so will either vote for me or vote for someone completely different to protect Ch3t.
 

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And not wanting to say I told you so, but... based on the same logic (that apparently sucks?), I was right about Rubric being a good guy and I didn't want him dead...

(like Ch3t did.. which incidentally distracted from suspicion upon him, without counter-voting me)
 

Ch3tan

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Well, what the hell else am I supposed to do, seeing as I know it's true ? :rolleyes: 1 vote left.. Feeling desperate ?

And for the record, unless they switch now this makes me more certain Itcheh and Nate are good. (I don't need "inside info" to work that one out, Toht)

Uara and Sydrik left.. Toht is voting for me.

One of them is bad so will either vote for me or vote for someone completely different to protect Ch3t.

And not wanting to say I told you so, but... based on the same logic (that apparently sucks?), I was right about Rubric being a good guy and I didn't want him dead...

(like Ch3t did.. which incidentally distracted from suspicion upon him, without counter-voting me)

You were right about Rubric through pure chance, you should have been wary as hell about him. He accepted both of us as good without a second thought, that is dodgy as hell. He wasn't.. but his behaviour was not that of a innocent. You did not find him accepting us both odd at all. He couldn't have known anything about what we both claimed.

You do realise that you've only interrogated those that have argued with you don't you? me, then cal? So the killer (assuming it's not you) / spies only have to agree with you to hide in open sight. You are incapable of clear thought if someone panders to you, and are so fixated that I am bad that you ignore everything else.

You've just for example as much said to itcheh and nate that you are damning them if they change vote. Feel powerful do you Mr Gestapo?

Also, "you know it's true", well I know what I am saying is true, I'm not forcing it down everyone's throats. I'm asking that people consider all the variables, and that includes you. So far today only toht and Uara have tried to. Nate has jumped from wanting Rubric dead to trying to implicate me as the only person who killed him. Itcheh is staying safe by your side (which does seem to be the safest place to be) and Syd hasn't really contributed.

As for not counter-voting you, why would I have? I've only done it as a defensive measure today. I was going to vote for you for being wrong and clearly not our seer, but Rubric was far more suspicious.

Why would I feel desperate Opti? You kill me and the crew are down to 1, a shrink (seer) , then 2 spies, a poisoner and whatever your role is. So the crew have already lost as far as I can see, it will be a battle between the assasin and the spy for victory. Enjoy that guys.... Opti has you all wrapped around his finger.
 

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Opti, there's no logic fail since there's a murderer still out(so can't say they aren't evil). That is what's bothering me.

Also saying "You're responsible if we fail", while you've been tictaccing with ch3t the whole time, blinkers on to anything else, is crooked as hell. You've systematically made everyone evil who is against you and suddenly those people turn up dead.

I'm hopig the remaining folk aren't too gunho and think about it, if we misvote here it's game over.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if NAte was your partner to be honest, he's been really quiet all day, just a few words here and there, so you can keep the limelight.
 

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Oh and as a final note before this day closes and i take some deserved shut eye; saying "if you put the final vote on ch3t, you're innocent"(in not so many words) is REALLy underhanded.
 

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Opti, just to be clear, a good reason to think you're a baddie;

Uara - true enough, Nate or Itcheh could be lying low, but so long as they're voting Ch3tan, I think it unlikely. If he gets a majoirty and they suddenly switch however, that's different.

Saying that as long as they agree with you, they are good.

Uara and Sydrik left.. Toht is voting for me.

One of them is bad so will either vote for me or vote for someone completely different to protect Ch3t.

Everyone not voting for ch3t, even if they just haven't had the chance to talk, are evil.

BAsically, it's opti vs the world and if you're against opti, you're either evil or end up dead. Nice contradiction btw.
 

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Woah...just a few comments there toht.
As Chet and Toht have said in Opti's views if you side with him then you're safe...you won't get interrogated (if he is a gestapo officer, won't know until we're safe or if he's been murdered) and he'll only go for those that outwardly oppose him. Those who stay quiet and just pay lipservice to his views they seem to get a free ride. Brilliant if you're a bad guy and want to ease past without causing too much of an issue, just side with Opti and he'll think the light shines out of your arse.
Uara and Sydrik left.. Toht is voting for me.

One of them is bad so will either vote for me or vote for someone completely different to protect Ch3t.

why would we be protecting chet. He is just as likely to be a bad guy as you are from my point of view. Again will only find out if he's right if we manage to get through this or he's killed. Exactly the same situation as you're in at present. Everyone gets a lucky guess from time to time the fact of the matter is you seem to be blinkered in your approach. Call me a bad guy all you want for this action but your blinkered approach could get us all killed. Don't just assume the just because people agree with you that they're all good.

vote Opticle
 

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Yeah, i notice stuff and since i can't go back in time to edit what i'm saying(RP immersion is hard guv :(), i tend to rabble in segments.
 

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Things we know as fact:

* On both nights there have been a stabbing and a poisoning

Fact 1: there are at least 2 x bad guys

* On the first night our bad guys cocked up by killing the same person

Fact 2: The bad guys are not working together

* On the first night, Opti could only have had enough time to search / interrogate one crew member ... in this case Ch3t ... he would not have had time to kill as well

Fact 3: Ch3t has not denied the allegations (but has spun an alternative story) - therefore if you believe that Opti only had time for one action, murder could not have been one of them ...

... therefore Opti is NOT BAD

Lynch the wrong crew member tonight and it's game over.

Ch3t must be next or we're doomed. Any other voting is just guess-work ... and the time for guessing is over.
 

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Ahem, "Fact 2: The bad guys are not working together", you don't know this. We can assume that's the case, but we might also have a situation where the two spies both have kills.

Second point; your whole basis there is that opti is not lying. So if he has no interrogation powers, which we onlöy have his word on, he could easily kill people.
 

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To put it blunt; your vote on ch3t is as much of a guesswork as any other, sincce you're basing it on opti saying he has gestapo powers.
 

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And even if i'm spamming, the fact here is that the whole anti-ch3t movement is based on one thing alone; opti is not lying.

I asked several times to show me how ch3t has acted more suspiciously then opti, yet only "proof" you've provided is that "opti is not lying", trusting blindly in his gestapo role.

On the other hand, opti has made sure that anyone voting against him is either called out as a baddie, or -dead-.

Time to take the blinkers off itcheh, even if i know you've wanted to kill ch3t since day 1.
 

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Opti, just to be clear, a good reason to think you're a baddie;

Saying that as long as they agree with you, they are good.

Everyone not voting for ch3t, even if they just haven't had the chance to talk, are evil.

BAsically, it's opti vs the world and if you're against opti, you're either evil or end up dead. Nice contradiction btw.

If they want Ch3t dead, as I KNOW Ch3t is bad, means they are most likely good. HOW IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND ??

I'm not saying everyone not voting Ch3t or opposing me is evil, I'm saying ONE OF YOU PROBABLY IS. As I KNOW Ch3t is bad, and one of the bad guys will most likely protect him, it makes sense that one of the people not voting for him is bad.. HOW IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND ??

There's no contradiction, you're twisting things massively.


Woah...just a few comments there toht.
Just side with Opti and he'll think the light shines out of your arse.

Well obviously. Seeing as I am good. If you are siding with good and helping me kill bad guys, then of course I am likely to think the light shines out your arse. I'm not an idiot though, it doesn't mean absolution from suspicion, but it means a damn lot. I don't have to say everything I think.
 

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I said that your logic fails since there's a murderer out there and if they're not working together, he wants all the spies dead too.

Ergo; voting for ch3t does not equal good.
 

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